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Message started by Just me on Apr 28th, 2005 at 8:01pm

Title: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Just me on Apr 28th, 2005 at 8:01pm
(Sorry, I meant to post to this board and not the High Rad board).

Hi, I've read all over the boards here and the net about Ghost 2003, and no where is it mentioned that the original CD is bootable! I read where people have so many problems creating boot CD's or floppies, but why not just use the ghost cd? I'm just wondering why it's not the preferred method? I'm new to Ghost and like it alot, and I had absolutely no problems creating an image using the original CD, I only added -ghostoncd switch, and I could access it and restore fine. Can anyone tell me why this isn't mentioned anywhere I've read?

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Just me on Apr 28th, 2005 at 8:10pm
Oh, and I forgot to mention.. when ghost asks me to insert a floppy disk for the boot info, I just use the ghost CD, since it uses floppy emulation anyway, and it extracts the info just fine, and behold, a bootable CD. Anyway, I'm just extremely curious why people don't like to use this method. I just recieved ghost a few days ago and searched all over the net on user guides and faqs on how to use it, and nowhere did I see this mentioned. Everyone talks about either creating a bootable floppy or CD, and just seems like too much of a hassle if I don't have to. :)

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Radministrator on Apr 29th, 2005 at 3:14am
You make a good point. I think, sometimes, people just forget, or maybe don't know that the Ghost retail CD is itself bootable.

I'm in the process of updating the guide, so I added a sentence to the 1st paragragh listed under the heading "Bootable Ghost CD" on this page:

http://ghost.radified.com/ghost_caveat.htm

I linked the word "bootable" to this thread.

Thx for the input. Sometimes it's the obvious we overlook.

R.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Just me on Apr 29th, 2005 at 3:31am
I'm glad I could help and I hope this info can help others. :)
I only wish I knew this before spending a few days researching the net. :P Just remember to use the -ghostoncd switch, so the ghost.exe gets copied to the root of the CD. Also, using -bootcd bypasses it asking for a floppy and just copies directly from the CD boot image. :)

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by NightOwl on May 2nd, 2005 at 11:36am
Just me


Quote:
I read where people have so many problems creating boot CD's or floppies, but why not just use the ghost cd? I'm just wondering why it's not the preferred method? I'm new to Ghost and like it alot, and I had absolutely no problems creating an image using the original CD


As with all things computer (and Windows), there's usually more than one way to do something--one way is not necessarily better than the other--just what works best for the individual...

Just another thought about using the 'original' Ghost CD for booting--when I use the version command on the 'ghost.exe' that's on the CD, I get the following:

X:\English\Support>ghost -ver
Norton Ghost 2003 (build=775, cdrlib=3.1.24)
Copyright (C) 1998-2002 Symantec Corp. All rights reserved.  

When I do the version command on the Live Updated version on my installed version of Ghost, I get:

C:\Ghost>ghost -ver
Norton Ghost 2003 (build=793, cdrlib=3.1.25)
Copyright (C) 1998-2003 Symantec Corp. All rights reserved.

As you can see, the build is more recent than that on the CD--Symantec has 'fixed' some bugs or compatibility issues most likely--and the CD-R Library (cdrlib) is updated also--more CD-R optical drives are supported with the newer updated version.

But, if the Ghost version on the CD is working fine for your system--then there is no need to worry about the updated version that's available--it's when the CD version isn't working correctly on your system, that's when you need to consider trying the most recent version to see if that helps.

And then you need to figure out how to get that version onto a bootable CD.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Just me on May 2nd, 2005 at 2:36pm
That is a good point, however my CD is version 793, so I hadn't considered that. :) I did just recieve it a few days ago from an online retailer. :)

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by 786 on May 6th, 2005 at 10:48pm
Hello Just me,

Read your post , its a real eye & a mind opener.

I have a Bootable Ghost v2003 CD.

Can you please mention what CHANGES have to made, like replacing the older ghost.exe, adding switches to it etc, to make it Bootable in all aspects for full functionality.

Not requiring to make a Bootable floppy/ CD.......as thats a pretty confusing matter to me since bein a newbie, am a PC. illiterate too.

Please make it simple & step wise.

Waiting to hear to hear your views.

Regards.

PS: I don't understand a bit about switches. lol

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by NightOwl on May 6th, 2005 at 11:11pm
786


Quote:
I don't understand a bit about switches.


Ghost 2003 has a nice Windows interface to work from from within Windows--but ultimately, it's a DOS based program.  If you work from Windows, once you begin the actual Ghost procedure, Ghost closes out Windows, re-boots the system to a DOS environment, does the Ghost procedure, and then re-boots the system back to Windows.

And you can work with Ghost 2003 directly from within DOS without using the Windows interface, just the DOS version and it's interface.

DOS programs often use 'command line "switches"'--these are letters or words, often with a preceding symbol, placed on the same line you type to start the program.

For example--'ghost -ver':  

'ghost' when typed at a 'command prompt' in a directory which has the 'ghost.exe' program, will start the DOS Ghost program.  

But when you add the 'switch' (a command line instruction--or think of it as an 'option' telling the program what special function you want), now something else happens.  In this case, typing the ' -ver' (that's a space and the minus symbol (-), then 'ver') after the 'ghost' command, now the DOS Ghost program does not start, but instead the program displays the version and 'build' number of the 'ghost.exe' program.

Switches are 'options' that you type after the name of the program that start the program--they change how the program functions from the 'default' settings.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by 786 on May 6th, 2005 at 11:22pm
Thanks for replyin.

Ghost version after checlkin, ghost -ver, is build 793, cdrlib 3.1.25.

Where & how do I add the -ghostoncd & -bootcd switches.

Regards.


Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by NightOwl on May 7th, 2005 at 2:49am
786


Quote:
Where & how do I add the -ghostoncd & -bootcd switches.


Not sure you have to.  With Ghost 2003, when you select the optical drive as the destination, Ghost asks you if you want to make it bootable--if you select 'yes', it does it for you.

See more discussion here:

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=Full_Rad_Board;action=display;num=1114729002;start=0#9

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Craig on May 18th, 2005 at 8:27am
Well, I can't get this to work.

My Fujitsu-Siemens P7010 came with Ghost 2003 installed and with an ostensibly bootable CD.

Booting from the CD, it launches PC-DOS and then asks what drivers I would like to install.

Neither Firewire nor USB find any devices (yes, the external disk is plugged in and turned on!)

Then, I just get an a:\ prompt

Can't even run the ghost.exe programme, because it doesn't seem to be there.

Why does this all have to be so difficult?... Very tiring, and time-consuming.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by El_Pescador on May 18th, 2005 at 10:24am

Quote:
"... Neither Firewire nor USB find any devices (yes, the external disk is plugged in and turned on!)..."

Craig

What make and model of external disk?  Is external disk purpose-built or an internal HDD mounted in an external enclosure kit?   Is connection USB 1.1, USB 2.0, FireWire 400, FireWire 800, SATA or a combination of any of the foregoing?

[glb]El Pescador [/glb]

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Craig on May 19th, 2005 at 8:18am
LaCie d2 120GB firewire 400 (NTFS)

plus

Nixvue Vista 40GB, which has a USB 1.1 and a firewire 400 interface and is FAT.

But, even if the drivers did enable these disks to be accessed, the ghost.exe file does not appear to be accessible on the original CD when booted from it. What drive and directory is it in?

The P7010 does not have a floppy drive.

I am really at the end of my tether with this, which is unusual because usually I am the one telling friends and colleagues to calm down, be methodical and persistent.

I really can't see the point of Ghost 2003 if all you can do with it is back-up, not restore! It is all very well being able to create a bootable CD/DVD if you store the image on it too, but that is not much use if you have an 80GB HD in your machine.

Something which is an integral part of what the application is designed to do and which should be entirely straightforward has taken hours and hours and hours. For nothing, because I am no further on now than I was when I started, despite investigating options like www.ultimatebootcd.com  www.nu2.nu  www.bootdisk.com  , searching all over Symantec Tech support, calling Fujitsu,  etc. etc.

Very sorry to rant. Please excuse me. I think you can probably sense how worked up I am.

All I want to do is clone the disk (so I can send the laptop for the case to be repaired after it was knocked) and then know that I can easily and quickly restore it again when it comes back (you can't take the disks out of these things without voiding the warranty). Should be a 3 step process: clone, restart from CD, restore...  What else is Ghost made for if not this precise task?

Well, I don't know. If any of you can help, I'd be very grateful, but at this point it seems the only restore solution with this product (at least for XP laptops with large disks and no floppy drive) is to spend the time reinstalling both Windows and Ghost, then run it from the virtual partition.

I just want to put on record that this particular incarnation of Ghost is not a very useful application. If you are thinking of buying it, don't. It will turn your hairs grey and is not fit for purpose (given that it came with the laptop - though that is perhaps Fujitsu's fault rather than Symantec's).

Anyway, you've heard enough of my whinging. Thanks for reading, and in advance for any suggestions.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Brian on May 19th, 2005 at 8:43am
You have already checked out BartPE. You can image your HD to your external HD from BartPE and restore if needed. Almost certainly BartPE will see your external HD.

BartPE has a plugin for Drive Snapshot which will do your imaging. It usually has a 4 week trial period. You can still restore after the trial period has ended.

BartPE has a plugin for Ghost 8, but that isn't going to help you as you need to have ghost32.exe and a few other files.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Craig on May 19th, 2005 at 9:22am
Thanks for your reply.

Yes, I was hoping BartPE would be compatible with Ghost 2003 and spent some time trying to find out whether it was, but it doesn't look like it is.

Of course, I had Ghost blinkers on because a) I already have a licensed copy and b) frustrating though it may be, at least I know it will produce reliable drive images.

Thanks for pointing out DriveSnapshot. Do you know if it is reliable? It is not expensive and may, in conjunction with BartPE, be THE killer solution...


Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Brian on May 19th, 2005 at 9:51am
I've tested it once. Image and restore. It worked. Running it via BartPE is easy, much easier than via floppy.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by El_Pescador on May 19th, 2005 at 1:44pm

Quote:
"... LaCie d2 120GB firewire 400 (NTFS)..."

Brian

Does the LaCie external HDD function normally in the Windows mode?

[glb]El Pescador[/glb]

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Brian on May 19th, 2005 at 7:11pm
Craig, on the BartPE page there is an Image for Windows plugin too.

There are working BartPE plugins  for the following imaging apps.

Drive Snapshot
Image for Windows
Ghost 8
Paragon Hard Disk Manager
Drive Image 2002

Ghost 9 and Acronis TI plugins are still beta.

If I recall correctly the Drive Image 2002 plugin even works with SATA disks.



Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Craig on May 20th, 2005 at 9:26am
Thank you so much for your interest and help, Brian and El_Pescador.

Proving that persistence is everything and ranting is just ranting, I have finally succeeded in making a boot CD which actually works. This I consider to be a minor miracle. A revelation! Pascal himself can have felt nothing akin. "Certitude, certitude, sentiment, joie, paix"!!!

Well, anyway, in the interests of preserving others' sanity, I would like to short-circuit all the long and involved instructions you find all over the net and just post an ISO image for you all here (about 3MB).

It does not, however, seem possible to post files... I'm not sure how legal it would be either, but I wouldn't wish this nightmare on anyone, so if you can come up with a solution to this distribution problem, I will happily go along with it...

I can also provide a zip of the files necessary to create the floppy emulation part of the boot CD (about 600K), without ghost.exe itself, but, crucially, with the USB and Firewire drivers.

This could be useful anyway, in case the particular CD-ROM driver I used doesn't work for your machine. It is simple to change to another. There are 4 provided and one is bound to work, but you need to burn a new CD after changing just one character in the config.sys file in order to do this (see below), for which you need the actual files. Mine worked with the second one I tried, so not too many coasters!

In the meantime, let me tell you what I did, and explain why a CD-ROM driver is needed at all. (This is another one of those long, though hopefully slightly less involved, explanations. Getting the ISO would be best.)

I think the problems were threefold:

1) External disk drivers on the original Ghost CD possibly out of date, incomplete or corrupted?

2) No accessible ghost.exe on the original CD, for whatever reason, just an installation directory.

3) Getting so worked up about the whole thing that the process of creating a boot CD came to appear impossibly fraught with obstacles; the more so since there are many www sites telling you what to do with a plethora of options and vast numbers of downloads required to put the whole thing together, which may or may not then function as required, but none offering "this will work, just download it" solutions.

So, this is what I did (shortcut by downloading the ISO, if we can sort that out):

Firstly, you need to understand what we are trying to achieve.

The bootable CD we are trying to create functions in "floppy emulation mode". It will work in most modern PCs/laptops. It simulates booting from a floppy and then mounts the main part of the CD and any other disks as separate drives.

You provide files from an ordinary DOS boot floppy and ask Nero (or other burning software) to create a bootable CD from them.

Those DOS files are hidden in a special bit of the CD which you can't see until you boot with it. Then they appear as both the a: and b: drives (identical contents).

The files have to be provided as an actual 1.44MB floppy disk (containing not more than 1.44MB), not just the files. This is a problem if you don't have a floppy drive. We'll come to that.

Any other files you might want to use, like ghost.exe, are added to the Nero CD project window in the usual way. You can add as much stuff as you like up to the capacity of the CD.

These extra files are then mounted, separately, as a drive when you boot from the CD. In my case I chose to mount them as the d: drive. You can change the letter by editing the autoexec.bat file on the floppy (or virtual floppy - see below) - just change "/L:D" to "/L:anydriveletter" (again, see below, it will become clear).

So that is why you need a DOS CD-ROM driver, even though you have just booted from the CD and would logically think why have a driver for something you can already see without one.

You are tricking the computer into thinking it has just booted from a floppy. It then looks for the driver for the CD, as specified in config.sys, on what it thinks is a floppy. It then mounts it, assigning a drive letter to it using MSCDEX.EXE (which is not, itself, the driver), so you can access the rest of your files (ie. ghost.exe)

If you don't have a floppy drive, providing a boot floppy for Nero to copy is difficult. It has to contain the USB and Firewire drivers, so you can't use the Nero default one.

I downloaded this utility to create a virtual, memory resident, floppy drive - http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html

Next, I downloaded a customised (just extra CD-ROM drivers for compatibility) Windows98SE boot floppy image from http://1gighost.net/randyboy/boot98sc.exe (see www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm)

You need to mount a virtual a: drive, then double-click boot98sc.exe, which will copy the relevant files onto it to create a virtual "boot floppy".

Then use the "virtual floppy drive" control panel to mount a 1.44MB virtual b: drive too.

Use the Ghost boot disk wizard to create a standard ghost boot floppy with USB1.1 (not 2.0) and Firewire drivers (I ran LiveUpdate first, to make sure they were up-to-date). Make sure you choose the b: drive as the target, or you will overwrite your nice new boot floppy on the a: drive.

You can provide MS-DOS (as opposed to PC-DOS) by pointing the wizard to your a: drive for the files. I don't know whether this makes any difference, since you are only running the Ghost wizard at all to get the USB and Firewire drivers and config.sys lines. I did it anyway.

When the wizard tries to create diskette 2 (with ghost.exe on it), just click CANCEL. You can copy it to the CD later from Program Files. Otherwise, it will overwrite your drivers.

Now, copy the FWR and USB directories from virtual floppy b: (temporary Ghost boot disk) to virtual floppy a: (our real boot disk)

You will probably need to delete some superfluous utilities from a: in order to have enough space. You only need bare-bones DOS to accomplish an image restore since Ghost provides all the functionality.

Next job is to reconcile the differing autoexec.bat and config.sys files, adding the disk drivers but not all the silly Ghost scripting.

Just edit the ones on virtual floppy a: using notepad so they look like this:

AUTOEXEC.BAT

Code:

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+00:00

MSCDEX.EXE  /D:banana /L:D





CONFIG.SYS

Code:

DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /testmem:off
FILES=30
BUFFERS=20

DEVICE=cd2.SYS /D:banana
DEVICE=usb\aspiohci.sys /int /all
DEVICE=usb\aspiohci.sys /int /all /D1
DEVICE=usb\aspiohci.sys /int /all /D2
DEVICE=usb\aspiohci.sys /int /all /D3
DEVICE=usb\aspiuhci.sys /int /all
DEVICE=usb\aspiuhci.sys /int /all /D1
DEVICE=usb\aspiuhci.sys /int /all /D2
DEVICE=usb\aspiuhci.sys /int /all /D3
DEVICE=fwr\aspi1394.sys /int /all

rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:1f0,14
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:170,15
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:170,10
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:1e8,12
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:1e8,11
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:168,10
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:168,9

LASTDRIVE=Z



If you need to try a different CD-ROM driver, edit the line

Code:
DEVICE=cd2.SYS /D:banana

changing the number "2" to 1, 3, or 4.
Ignore the banana reference. It just ties this in with the line in autoexec.bat

Later, you can also play around with the lines beginning "rem" to add extra params to the drivers if things totally refuse to work. Leave them for now.

SO now, on your virtual floppy a: you should have something which is going to be able to boot your computer with external disk support:
1) Basic DOS taken from a Windows98SE boot floppy
2) USB and Firewire drivers
3) autoexec.bat file to set the drive letter for your ghost.exe file
4) config.sys file to reference the USB and Firewire drivers as well as one of the 4 available generic CD-ROM drivers.

Start a bootable CD project in Nero.

In the Add Files window, add ghost.exe from your Program Files folder.

Click next and point Nero to your virtual floppy a: to copy as the boot disk.

Drag all the files from your a: drive to somewhere safe so you can drag them back again and create another CD if the CD-ROM driver doesn't work. (You will lose the virtual floppy when you restart, or course.)

Restart using your new Ghost boot CD.

Make sure your firewire/USB drive is on and connected BEFORE DOS starts looking for it.

If the d: drive (the bit of your CD with ghost.exe on it) does not mount, burn another CD using one of the other CD-ROM drivers (see above), and try again.

Type d:
type ghost.exe

Restore your disk image.

Ghost can read NTFS drives, even though DOS can't, so don't be concerned that other drives have not mounted.


Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Just Me on May 22nd, 2005 at 6:07am
Hi, sorry I wasn't around, but my monitor died and I had to send it to ViewSonic for repairs.
I'm glad you finally got it to work, but I noticed it seems you did it the hard way. :)
How I did it was, no creating any floppies or anything. Just put the Norton Ghost CD in the drive, reboot, press any key to boot from CD. Select option 2, to load CD and SCSI drivers (doesn't matter if you don't have SCSI). From there, you are right, if you have any NTFS partitions, it wont show up, so for me, using the ghost CD, I just typed C:, then CD support, to get to the support directory, then Ghost -auto -ghostoncd -bootcd, and it starts up. From there, you just make an image or whatever you like. When it tries to make a bootcd, and asks for a floppy disk, since the CD already uses floppy emulation, it just reads the boot sectors from the ghost CD, makes it bootable. AND, you get mouse support!! :D
Anyway, that's all I did, really simple. No need to make a boot disk or have a floppy drive. And the cool thing is I thought was, just in case in the future, if you ever get a firewire or SCSI drive, you already have those drivers included in the boot CD. No need to mess with the config files or anything. :)
Take care.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Craig on May 23rd, 2005 at 5:48am
I'm not sure I quite follow.

Or do I?...

Ah, I see. So the path to ghost.exe on the CD is:

\NG2003\English\Support\ghost.exe

Well, I have sent the laptop off now, but when it comes back I must try that once more and see if the firewire drivers work.

Using the Ghost install CD to boot, DOS couldn't find the firewire disk before, you see, even if I had found the deeply buried Ghost executable.

Sorry your monitor broke - for you and for me, because it might have saved me hours of hair pulling had you been around!

I wouldn't have needed to create any CDs or anything...


Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Just Me on May 23rd, 2005 at 9:21am
Hmm, maybe we have different versions of ghost? Mine is just the plain vanilla Ghost 2003 OEM cd. The directory to ghost.exe is /Support/Ghost.exe. :) I don't know about firewire drivers if they work or not, as I don't have a firewire drive, just plain ATAPI. :) I'm sorry too I wasn't around, I was also pulling my hair out, just not having a computer for so long drove me crazy. ;)
Let me know how it goes. :)

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Craig on Aug 23rd, 2005 at 11:56am
Just a little update to this thread.

I have now used BartPE and DriveSnapshot extensively.

They work like an absolute dream.

If you want an easy time cloning modern PCs, forget DOS boot CDs and Ghost. There are better things to do with your life than struggle over such trivialities!  :)

BartPE will pretty much boot anything with zero hassle and support any hard drive you might want to plug in.

DriveSnapshot is small, fast, efficient and good value.

You don't even need to worry about creating a new BartPE CD with your licensed copy of DriveSnapshot on it, since DriveSnapshot can be run from any accessible disk. It's only a few K, so just put it on the disk to which you will write the image file, then it will be there with the image for when you need to restore.

Just one thing to watch with BartPE: if you are creating the bootable disc from WinXP SP2 you must enable the dcomlaunch plugin "RpcSS needs to launch DComLaunch Service first - SP2 only", otherwise diskpart (the disk partitioning tool) won't work. That one caught me out and I had to burn another CD!

Ghost has been completely superceded by a superior solution, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by El_Pescador on Aug 23rd, 2005 at 1:22pm

Craig wrote on Aug 23rd, 2005 at 11:56am:
"... I have now used BartPE and DriveSnapshot extensively... Ghost has been completely superceded by a superior solution, in my opinion..."

Does this completely supplant the capability of Ghost 2003 to perform "disk-to-image/image-to-disk" Backup/Restore procedures?

[glb]El Pescador[/glb]

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Brian on Aug 23rd, 2005 at 4:59pm
You won't need to make a new scrolling marquee El_Pescador. Drive Snapshot doesn't do what you desire.



Craig, have you tried the Reatogo version of BartPE? It's easier to use than the original version of BartPE, particularly for networking. The GUI looks just like WinXP. It runs Drive Snapshot.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Chad Man on Dec 13th, 2005 at 1:57am
My issue is I'm attempting to create a Bootable Recovery CD for my laptop (a WinXP SP2 on an NTFS partition) utilizing Ghost 2003.  I've followed all your guidelines here and on the FAMOUS PDF DOCUMENT entitled "Radified Guide to Norton Ghost".  But I stop short of actually creating the CD due to the fact that Ghost informs me that I will "Need 30 CD's or 5 DVD's" to create this, therefore I cancel out of the operation.  Is there something that I'm doing wrong here guys for it to make that statement.  Personally I was looking and hoping for only 5 CD's at the most for this.  Any guidance you can give me in regards to this would be appreciated.



that when I attempt to make a Bootable Recovery CD that will take my Ghosted NTFS Partition (which I'm attempting to also put on the same cd)

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Chomper on Dec 13th, 2005 at 2:07am
It depends on how much data your drive contains. How much data is there?

If you think Ghost is asking for more CDs/DVDs than it should, you might need to empty the trash.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Chad Man on Dec 14th, 2005 at 7:14pm
I only have about 10.2 GB's of data loaded on a 27.9 GB Harddrive.

So that leaves me a question for you all...how many CDs/DVDs do you all have to use to image your systems and how much data do you all have loaded?

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Bruce on Dec 14th, 2005 at 7:43pm
I do everything described, boot into dos, yada yada  yada, but my cd doesn't have a *.GHO file.  Isn't it suppose to?  I made a ghost image, took 7 cds to do it, if it doesn't have a *.GHO file, what does it have on 7 cds?

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Bruce on Dec 14th, 2005 at 8:04pm
O yes, by the way, I ran the "integrity" check task.  It took about an hour, said everything was fine.  But, THERE IS NO *.GHO file.  What am I missing?  What good is a back up with no *.GHO file?  

Title: MY OEM GHOST DOESN'T WORK
Post by silversaleen68 on Dec 19th, 2005 at 12:00pm
Yeah, my retail version of ghost doesn't work.  When it boots, it says "starting PC DOS, then it gives me these choices

No drivers
USB 1.1
USB 2.0
Firewire
zip/jaz

No matter what aI choose, it just goes to the "A:\" and if I do a dir search, it doesn't find any actual directories, only the following:

IBMBIO             COM
IBMDOS            COM
_BOOT_HD        NOZ
CONFIG             SYS
AUTOEXEC        BAT
MOUSE             COM
OAKCDROM       SYS
BTDOSM           SYS
FLAHPT             SYS
BTCDROM        SYS
ASPICD             SYS
MSCDEX           EXE
MOUSE            INI
ASPIUHCI           SYS
ASPIEHCI          SYS
ASPIOHCI          SYS
ASPI1394          SYS
HIMEM              SYS
GUEST             EXE

None of these lead to ghost.exe

Help, I'm trying to ghost a laptop.  FYI, I can get to the ghost .exe file by loading ghost into all of the laptops and following it through to the restart process, but I don't want to have to load ghost on every laptop, and damn it this should just work!

I also tried creating a "bootable CD" with Nero, and copying the files from the bootable floppy with ghost03 on it, but that doesn't work either, it says "starting caldera dos" (never heard of that before.

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Czarek Zarzycki on Jan 9th, 2006 at 9:16am
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wrote on Apr 28th, 2005 at 8:01pm:
(Sorry, I meant to post to this board and not the High Rad board).

Hi, I've read all over the boards here and the net about Ghost 2003, and no where is it mentioned that the original CD is bootable! I read where people have so many problems creating boot CD's or floppies, but why not just use the ghost cd? I'm just wondering why it's not the preferred method? I'm new to Ghost and like it alot, and I had absolutely no problems creating an image using the original CD, I only added -ghostoncd switch, and I could access it and restore fine. Can anyone tell me why this isn't mentioned anywhere I've read?


Title: Re: MY OEM GHOST DOESN'T WORK
Post by Luke Skywalker on Jan 18th, 2006 at 10:52pm

wrote on Dec 19th, 2005 at 12:00pm:
Yeah, my retail version of ghost doesn't work.  When it boots, it says "starting PC DOS, then it gives me these choices

No drivers
USB 1.1
USB 2.0
Firewire
zip/jaz

No matter what aI choose, it just goes to the "A:\" and if I do a dir search, it doesn't find any actual directories, only the following:

IBMBIO             COM
IBMDOS            COM
_BOOT_HD        NOZ
CONFIG             SYS
AUTOEXEC        BAT
MOUSE             COM
OAKCDROM       SYS
BTDOSM           SYS
FLAHPT             SYS
BTCDROM        SYS
ASPICD             SYS
MSCDEX           EXE
MOUSE            INI
ASPIUHCI           SYS
ASPIEHCI          SYS
ASPIOHCI          SYS
ASPI1394          SYS
HIMEM              SYS
GUEST             EXE

None of these lead to ghost.exe


Actually, you are doing fine up to this point. If the boot proccess executed correctly there should be a message saying that your CD/DVD drive has been mounted as drive C: or something.

now switch to that drive by typing 'C:' and hit enter
then switch to the support folder by typing 'CD SUPPORT' and hit enter
ghost should be there.

hope this helps

Title: Re: Ghost 2003 CD is bootable
Post by Walter A. Souza on Apr 12th, 2006 at 1:17pm

NightOwl wrote on May 7th, 2005 at 2:49am:
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Not sure you have to.  With Ghost 2003, when you select the optical drive as the destination, Ghost asks you if you want to make it bootable--if you select 'yes', it does it for you.

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