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Message started by tumbler on Sep 7th, 2005 at 10:59am

Title: For Those without Floppy Drives - Ghost ?
Post by tumbler on Sep 7th, 2005 at 10:59am
Hi all,

First off, i think this is going to be one heck of helpful forum.
I'm  quite versed in the Norton Ghost line. Do many images with ver. 8.0 and now I'm testing with Ghost Solution Suite which is not turning out to be very reliable.

Regardless, my question is for those without floppy drives, ie notebooks and newer pc's, how am I to get an image and conduct regular back ups ?

I haven't had any success creating a Ghost bootable CD-R nor Ghost bootable USB drive.

Has anyone other than Bart's solution been able to create either using Ghost and furthermore, been successful at using for backup regimes ?

thanks for your input
 

Title: Re: For Those without Floppy Drives - Ghost ?
Post by NightOwl on Sep 7th, 2005 at 11:51am
tumbler


Quote:
now I'm testing with Ghost Solution Suite


Is that the Corporate *Live State* version of Ghost?

If *yes*--I believe that's the cousin of the *retail* Ghost 9.x--it does not use DOS of floppy disks.  Imaging is done *hot* from within Windows.  And the *Recovery Environment* is booted from a *Recovery CD* that loads a version of Windows PE to run Windows based recovery tools--again--non-DOS based tools.


Quote:
Regardless, my question is for those without floppy drives, ie notebooks and newer pc's, how am I to get an image and conduct regular back ups ?

I haven't had any success creating a Ghost bootable CD-R


If you are asking about using Ghost 2003 or earlier versions, this Guide may help:

Creating Bootable CD/DVD's Without A:\Floppy Drive


Title: Re: For Those without Floppy Drives - Ghost ?
Post by tumbler on Sep 7th, 2005 at 11:55am
thanks.. the solution suite is a separate issue.. that has all sorts of driver problems with the backup regimes

tried the nightowl without success, will give it another go..


Title: Re: For Those without Floppy Drives - Ghost ?
Post by Brian on Sep 7th, 2005 at 8:03pm
Tumbler,

No, you can't create a Ghost 9 Symantec Recovery CD, but it comes in the box from Symantec. If that's what you were referring to. You can create a Reatogo BartPE/Ghost 9 CD, which you mentioned. It does work.

Title: Re: For Those without Floppy Drives - Ghost ?
Post by tumbler on Sep 8th, 2005 at 11:15am
tried the nightowl again and the same error message

A:\ghost.exe
Bad command or file name

I think i'll use a different ghost.exe version maybe ?

Title: Re: For Those without Floppy Drives - Ghost ?
Post by NightOwl on Sep 8th, 2005 at 11:41am
tumbler


Quote:
A:\ghost.exe
Bad command or file name


The Corporate Ghost 8.xx is a larger *.exe* file than the consumer Ghost 2003, and will not fit in the 1.44 MB space available in the standard CD/DVD bootable sector along with all the other boot files as outlined in the Guide.  

So, Ghost 8.xx is not actually available in that sector--so you get the above error.

You can do a *work-around* with WinImage by using a non-floppy disk size boot sector of 2.88 MB.  You have to have a burning program that allows you to burn a bootable CD/DVD with a non-floppy disk size boot sector of 2.88 MB as well.  (But, Ghost 2003 and Ghost 8.xx understand and use only the standard floppy-sized boot sector (1.44 MB) for creating bootable optical media from within the Ghost program--so the above work-around *breaks* Ghost's ability to make bootable optical media from a boot sector that's now 2.88 MB.  All other functions of Ghost are unaffected.)

The second alternative is to put your DOS boot files as outlined in the Guide in the boot sector, but leave Ghost 8.xx out of the files being used in the boot sector.  Instead, tell the burning program to burn the Ghost 8.xx to the *data* portion of the optical media.

Because the Guide has you use drive letter X: for the optical drive and that's included in the *path statement*, when you type *Ghost.exe* at the A:\ prompt, DOS will find Ghost on the X:\ optical media!

Title: Re: For Those without Floppy Drives - Ghost ?
Post by tumbler on Sep 8th, 2005 at 11:45am
done, it works :D

but i wanted to recognize the external USB drive.

I "injected" what i thought were the USB drivers into the image re-burned it but it did not work

what specific usb drivers are needed ?

thanks for your help


Title: Re: For Those without Floppy Drives - Ghost ?
Post by NightOwl on Sep 8th, 2005 at 12:04pm
tumbler

What *alternative* did you use?


Quote:
but i wanted to recognize the external USB drive.


See here for discussion:

Adding USB to Ghost Boot CD


Title: Re: For Those without Floppy Drives - Ghost ?
Post by tumbler on Sep 8th, 2005 at 12:22pm
i took a ghost.exe from version 7.5 and that worked better

working on the usb  link now.. thanks for that

next up will be a cd-r drive mapping disk :D

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