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Message started by Howard Kaikow on Dec 15th, 2005 at 4:53pm

Title: Ghost 10: Independent Recovery Set
Post by Howard Kaikow on Dec 15th, 2005 at 4:53pm
I created an independent recovery set.
I specified that there should be only 1 recovery set per drive.
Ran the backup.

I then set the option to automatically delete recovery sets if there was insufficient space, yet when I then ran another backup:

1. A second recovery set was started for each drive.
2. The jub did not reuse space and aborted due to lack of space.

I want to be able to automatically replace independent recovery sets.

In Ghost 10, how do I do the deed?

Title: Re: Ghost 10: Independent Recovery Set
Post by Brian on Dec 15th, 2005 at 5:14pm
Howard, I note you only desire one recovery set. Set #2 has to complete before set #1 is deleted. So you must have enough free space for this to happen.

Title: Re: Ghost 10: Independent Recovery Set
Post by Ghost4me on Dec 15th, 2005 at 5:39pm

Howard Kaikow wrote on Dec 15th, 2005 at 4:53pm:
I created an independent recovery set.
I specified that there should be only 1 recovery set per drive.
Ran the backup.
I then set the option to automatically delete recovery sets if there was insufficient space, yet when I then ran another backup:
1. A second recovery set was started for each drive.
2. The jub did not reuse space and aborted due to lack of space.
I want to be able to automatically replace independent recovery sets.
In Ghost 10, how do I do the deed?


Would you want Ghost to delete your ONLY image/recovery set until it has successfully created the second one?  That would be inviting disaster.

In Ghost 9 (I haven't tried this yet in 10), I keep three generations.  Ghost automatically deletes the oldest generation AFTER it creates the current one.  Very nice.

If I only wanted one generation, I would NEVER want Ghost to delete that before validating the newly created one.


Title: Re: Ghost 10: Independent Recovery Set
Post by Manikandan on Dec 15th, 2005 at 5:43pm
Hi,

If the user has limited the number of backup to 1

Ghost has to complete the creation of the second recovery point, before it can delete the previous one.

Regards
Manikandan

Title: Re: Ghost 10: Independent Recovery Set
Post by Howard Kaikow on Dec 15th, 2005 at 6:35pm

John. wrote on Dec 15th, 2005 at 5:39pm:
Would you want Ghost to delete your ONLY image/recovery set until it has successfully created the second one?  That would be inviting disaster.

In Ghost 9 (I haven't tried this yet in 10), I keep three generations.  Ghost automatically deletes the oldest generation AFTER it creates the current one.  Very nice.

If I only wanted one generation, I would NEVER want Ghost to delete that before validating the newly created one.


I do want the set  deleted BEFORE  to free the space, otherwise, i have to delete manually.

Title: Re: Ghost 10: Independent Recovery Set
Post by Howard Kaikow on Dec 15th, 2005 at 6:41pm

wrote on Dec 15th, 2005 at 5:43pm:
Hi,

If the user has limited the number of backup to 1

Ghost has to complete the creation of the second recovery point, before it can delete the previous one.

Regards
Manikandan


That may how the program works, but that is not what I asked.
The option is to delete a recovery set to make room for another recovery set. Deleting AFTER creation of the new recovery set  contradicts that option.

For example, another backup program allows you to choose a "normal" or a "recycle" backup". If you choose the latter, the old backup is deleted BEFORE the new backup, and there are warnings to make sure you really want to do this.

Waiting until AFTER a new backup is created contradicts the option of making space availale as that would require that you have space for 2 backup sets in the first place.

Title: Re: Ghost 10: Independent Recovery Set
Post by Howard Kaikow on Dec 15th, 2005 at 6:42pm

Brian wrote on Dec 15th, 2005 at 5:14pm:
Howard, I note you only desire one recovery set. Set #2 has to complete before set #1 is deleted. So you must have enough free space for this to happen.

Waiting until AFTER a new backup is created contradicts the option of making space availale as that would require that you have space for 2 backup sets in the first place.

Title: Re: Ghost 10: Independent Recovery Set
Post by Manikandan on Dec 16th, 2005 at 12:20pm
Hi,

Comming to your point .

lets take thi sas an example: As soon Norton Ghost deletes the first backup before it  begins the second and the backup fails for some reason ( as it ussually happens )

Guess what might be the result

Regards
Manikandan  

Title: Re: Ghost 10: Independent Recovery Set
Post by Howard Kaikow on Dec 16th, 2005 at 12:50pm

wrote on Dec 16th, 2005 at 12:20pm:
Hi,

Comming to your point .

lets take thi sas an example: As soon Norton Ghost deletes the first backup before it  begins the second and the backup fails for some reason ( as it ussually happens )

Guess what might be the result

Regards
Manikandan  


Of course, that needs to be my choice, not Ghost's.
Clearly, I'd have te previous most recent backup on other media.

In any case, independent recovery sets do not seem to handle incremental backups in the usual way, so I would not use an independent backup set.

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