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Rad Community Technical Discussion Boards (Computer Hardware + PC Software) >> Norton Ghost 2003, Ghost v8.x + Ghost Solution Suite (GSS) Discussion Board >> Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1135017392 Message started by Pleonasm on Dec 19th, 2005 at 2:36pm |
Title: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Pleonasm on Dec 19th, 2005 at 2:36pm
Here is a clever idea: test a Ghost image by restoring it to a virtual machine using VMWare (http://www.vmware.com/).
Ghost 9 http://www.vmware.com/support/kb/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1920 Ghost 2003 http://www.vmware.com/pdf/p2v_thirdpartyimage.pdf If you have experience with restoring a Ghost image to a virtual machine, please post your observations. |
Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Pleonasm on Jan 11th, 2006 at 3:21pm
VMware – a manufacturer of “virtual machine” software – now offers VMware Player, a “free desktop application that lets you run a virtual machine on a Windows or Linux PC”. Now here’s the interesting part . . . .
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It appears that VMware player can open and launch a virtual machine defined by a Ghost 9/Ghost 10 image backup (see Answer ID 1926 in the VMware knowledge base). For documentation and download information on VMware Player, see: http://www.vmware.com/support/player/doc/releasenotes_player.html |
Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Pleonasm on Jan 11th, 2006 at 4:59pm
And a few articles that describe VMware Player . . . .
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1900462,00.asp http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2005/12/vmware_goes_mai.html http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2005/120505gearhead.html |
Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Brian on Jan 11th, 2006 at 6:39pm
Pleo, I had to try it. Naturally.
I installed VMPlayer to my bare-bone WinXP partition. Then opened a .sv2i file. It asks for LiveState Recovery .sv2i files but it works with Ghost 10 files. WinXP loaded (SLOWLY) in the virtual machine window but at the Desktop stage it asked for a Microsoft activation, which I gather is normal. I deliberately don't have an internet connection for this partition so I coudn't proceed. I've tried the Microsoft Virtual Machine in the past. It's so slow that trying it a second time is a chore. I'd prefer restoring an image to an empty partition than using a virtual machine. |
Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Pleonasm on Jan 12th, 2006 at 12:12pm
Brian, thanks for posting your observations on the VMware Player.
Maybe the VMware Workstation (US$199) product is faster? Symantec uses that tool to create 200 virtual PCs onto which Ghost images are restored for purposes of its own internal software testing, as described in the case study found at http://www.vmware.com/customers/stories/symantec.html. I doubt that Symantec would proceed in this manner if doing so significantly reduced speed and therefore productivity. |
Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Pleonasm on Jan 12th, 2006 at 2:50pm
Brian, your experience with VMware Player and being prompted to activate Windows prompted me to wonder whether a second Windows license is required in order to legitimately run a Ghost image of a PC on a virtual machine running on the same PC. From Microsoft’s perspective, it might be the case that the virtual machine is considered a unique instance of the operating system (thereby requiring it own activation key) despite the fact that the virtual machine is running in Windows on the same hardware as the physical PC. Stated differently, I wonder from a licensing perspective whether the virtual machine is considered to be just another application running in Windows, or whether it is truly considered to be a distinct and separate PC itself, independent of the physical PC on which it is executing.
I have sent an email to Microsoft specifically inquiring about this issue, and will post what I learn. |
Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Brian on Jan 12th, 2006 at 7:03pm
Pleo, I understand the Activation stage is normal and Microsoft have no objections.
Have you tried VMware Player yet? |
Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Pleonasm on Jan 12th, 2006 at 9:14pm
Brian, based on some preliminary research, I’m not confident that a user can legitimately run a “ghost” of Windows XP in VMware Player without purchasing an additional license for the virtual machine. I hope this not true – but it very well might be the case.
Do you have any further information on why “the Activation stage is normal and Microsoft has no objections” when running Windows XP in VMware Player? I could find no commentary about this situation on the Microsoft website. I’m waiting for clarification on this point before I test the VMware Player. Hopefully, I’ll receive some guidance directly from Microsoft . . . . |
Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Brian on Jan 12th, 2006 at 10:35pm |
Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Pleonasm on Jan 13th, 2006 at 11:45am
Brian, thanks for the citation.
Quote:
Source: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1900462,00.asp While “Inactive VMs no longer count toward the total number of licenses,” the key question is whether or not an active virtual machine (VM) running Windows XP counts “toward the total number of licenses”. If so, then a user of VMware Player would need a Windows XP license for the physical PC and another for the virtual machine. :( |
Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Pleonasm on Jan 13th, 2006 at 12:17pm
Brian, I believe I found the (disappointing) answer.
By way of background: Quote:
And now the answer . . . . Quote:
Source: http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/f/f/2ff38f3e-033d-47e6-948b-8a7634590be6/virtual_machine.doc Thus, it appears that a user of the VMware Player running Windows has two options:
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Title: Re: Restore Ghost Image to a Virtual Machine Post by Pleonasm on Jan 17th, 2006 at 2:00pm
I had a conversation with the Licensing Department at Microsoft (800-426-9400) concerning this issue. They confirmed that a home user with an OEM or retail copy of Windows XP would need to purchase a second Windows XP license for the virtual machine, the key code of which must be entered when the virtual machine boots the operating system and Windows begins the activation sequence.
To make matters yet more complicated, when the virtual machine is again started at a later date and loads the Ghost image (.SV2I file), the activation prompt would reappear – but the Internet activation itself would fail, because it would be (incorrectly) perceived as an attempt to use the same license on multiple PCs. To correct the situation would then require a phone call to Microsoft to explain the circumstances. |
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