Ok guys I'm just about ready to Ghost.  I have a SATA drive internal and a SATA drive in an enclosure connected to a SATA PCI controler. I tried my Ghost boot floppy and it's fine. I first tried booting then turning on the enclosure after the Ghost screen came up. It was obvious that the enclosure drive didn't show up. So I booted again with my boot floppy. This time the enclosure was on and the drive showed up. Now my only concern is when booted the first time it showed drive 1 and 2 . I was sure which was which. I have a 160 GB C drive and D drive of 60 GB that I use to store digital pictures. Well the second boot showed 1,2 and 3. Now the enclosure drive is a duplicate of my C drive ,size ,brand and all. Can I be safe to assume that #3 is the enclosure drive?

Try it and see  ;D  That is what I did on my Dell - guessed correct.

I was hoping that there is a better way. I sure don't want to mess up.

Assign drive labels, they show up in Ghost 2003.

Christer

How do I assign drive lables?

Which operating system?

Assuming WinXP (and it probably works the same in other operating systems):

In Windows Explorer, right-click the partition and select Properties. At the top of the window that opens, the cursor should be blinking in the "label field" for you to fill in.

Christer

Should have told you XP. Thanks for the help. At what screen with 2003 does the label show up. I did have my enclosure drive labeled   [GHOST] but the screen I saw only listed them as 1 2 3.

I always work from DOS, never from the Windows interface. In DOS, the partitions display the label when selecting the source as well as the target.

Christer

I booted from the Ghost Boot floppy so I should see the label. Thank you for the help.

Christer

I'm not entirely sure--I will have to boot to DOS to confirm--but, I do not think the *source* screen shows labels in the DOS Ghost interface--that is a confusion factor if you have one or more *identical* drives!  (I have 3 Seagate 120 GB's on my one system now--and other that the Drive 1, Drive 2, and Drive 3--they all show as the *same*!)

WilliamP

The external HDD's are *enumerated* after internal HDD's when using DOS--so, most likely Drives one and two are your internal, and Drive 3 is the external.

How I make sure--in Window, just before I get ready to boot to DOS to do a Ghost backup, on my internal or external HDD, I create a sub-directory labeled with the two digit month and two digit day (so today would be *0108*)--so when I get into DOS and Ghost, when I select Drive 2 (where my Ghost images are stored on my internal HDD), I will see that sub-directory where I want to store today's image, or if I select Drive 3 (my External HDD), if that's where I had intended to store the image for today--then that sub-directory is there!

Also, for double checking, I think you can select *Partition >to Image*, and then select the listed Drive #, and then you will be presented with the list of partitions on that Drive #--and here the *drive labels* are listed--once you confirm that the drive labels are what you expected for the drive # you selected--you can *back out* (cancel) the initial selection of *Partition >to Image*, and proceed with confidence with whatever procedure you planned.

I'll confirm this later when I have the time and report back the results.

NightOwl,
maybe we're both right!

I have an old LapTop (Win98SE) with a single HDD with three partitions, C: (OmniBook), D: (DataBack) and E: (SystBack).

When creating an Image, in the first screen when the drive is selected, it only says "Drive 1" but when I have selected it, in the select partition screen, the partitions show up with labels.

It is "the same" when restoring an Image.

I have never used a hard disk with a single partition but it is possible that Ghost will skip "screen #2" for those hard disks.

Christer

Thank you all very much for the help.

Did the label(s) show up?

Christer

Will Ghost recognize the enclosure drive as an external drive? It is connected to a PCI SATA host card.

WilliamP wrote on Jan 8^th, 2006 at 2:22pm:

"... Will Ghost recognize the enclosure drive as an external drive? It is connected to a PCI SATA host card..."

I very strongly suspect that a SATA HDD in an external enclosure connected via SATA will be regarded as an internal SATA HDD despite its external power supply and being routed through a PCI-to-SATA card (as opposed to being routed to the systemboard).

EP :'(

Christer

Here's a couple screen shots showing the results of my testing.  The first is the screen if you choose *Local > Disk > to Image*:

http://nightowl.radified.com/forumimages/GhostDisktoImage.gif

As you can see--no partitions or labels--the next screen that Ghost presents is for selecting the *destination* for the image file!

This second screen shot shows *Local > Partition > to Image*:

http://nightowl.radified.com/forumimages/GhostPartitiontoImage.gif

Now, all the *Volume Labels* are shown!

Christer--do you use just *Local > Partition > to Image* rather than *Local > Disk > to Image*--is that why you always see the partition labels?

NightOwl,
I too create "Local > Partition > to Image".

Maybe I was unclear trying to describe the screens but they are similar to yours, well, exactly the same screens but only a single drive.

Normally, I don't assign drive labels. The LapTop is not my own but belongs to the flying club. I thought that it made sense to use drive labels on that one.

The reason for me not using drive labels is that it affects the "display order" in certain applications, e.g. Disk Management (or the defragmenter, I don't remember which).

Off topic: Did you run Ghost.exe from a DOS prompt to get the screen shots?

Christer

Christer


Quote:

Off topic: Did you run Ghost.exe from a DOS prompt to get the screen shots?

No.  Ghost.exe will refuse to run under Windows in a DOS command window.

If you happen to have Ghost32.exe (comes with Corporate Ghost 8.x), that will run under Windows in a DOS command window.

I did a search for a DOS screen capture program--most hits in Google are for Win9x, ME, and XP based programs.  There is a *Screen Thief* program that is Windows only based--so be aware that it's not the same!

Finally found *Screen Thief*, v2.01--freeware version--here's a source:

See *Screen Thief* in the Screen Capture section

Most of the old DOS screen capture programs are *text only* and not graphics, and/or are not *freeware*.

At least on my system, for the longest time I could not get it to work with Ghost 2003--but worked fine with PartitionMagic and other DOS utilities.  What I found that allowed it to work was:

1.  Have to load *himem.sys* in config.sys when booting to DOS

2.  Had to put the *Screen Thief* sub-directory (ST) on a FAT partition on the HDD and start it from there

3.  Start Screen Thief with the following command line switch:

g:\st\st /buffers:ems

*g* being the drive letter, and *st* being the sub-directory, and *st /buffers:ems* loads Screen Thief and its buffers in *ems* memory--I can never remember if that's *expanded* or *extended* memeory!

4.  Had to put Ghost.exe in the ST sub-directory, too, and start Ghost from there after starting Screen Thief

Now it works fine with Ghost!--So, I use that set-up only when I want to capture a DOS Ghost screen.

When I get to the [ File Name to Copy image to ] screen the labels show.  Thank you all for the help. If I'm not mistaken I need to image Disk to Image because there seems to be a couple different partitions on the disk. It isn't partitioned but it is showing up in Ghost to have 3 separate sections.  It is a Dell 8400.

NightOwl,
thanks for the information but on my computer, it will not be possible due to the lack of a FAT32 partition.

WilliamP,
you're welcome ...... :) ...... !

Christer

WilliamP wrote on Jan 9^th, 2006 at 7:24pm:

"... If I'm not mistaken I need to image Disk to Image because there seems to be a couple different partitions on the disk. It isn't partitioned but it is showing up in Ghost to have 3 separate sections.  It is a Dell 8400..."

My daughter's Dell Dimension 8400 is exactly the same, so I have her set up for performing a Norton Ghost 2003 "disk-to-image" Backup to an internal 40GB Maxtor IDE SLAVE HDD with a default Integrity Check.

EP :'(