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Message started by z8000783 on Dec 10th, 2006 at 8:16am

Title: Setting up a boot partition
Post by z8000783 on Dec 10th, 2006 at 8:16am
I am attempting to make a second HD bootable in case the main drive crashes.
I have set up 2 partitions, the 1st is 20 Mb the second is 95 Mb this is used for data.
Current start-up takes place the first HD which also has 2 partitions.
Problem is the option to make the partition active is not there, The system says it is a :

Layout simple (boot partition is gives layout partition) and

Type Dynamic ((boot partition is gives type basic)

Any thoughts on how I could change this? Could see how to do it on the help.

Thanks

John

Title: Re: Setting up a boot partition
Post by Rad on Dec 10th, 2006 at 3:59pm
is there an o/s on the 2nd drive?

if you put one there, and disconnect the 1st, it should be bootable.

how are u planning to get an o/s there?

clean install o/s? restore image? clone?

are you planning to move the 2nd drive to the connector where the 1st drive is currently located?

sata?

what prgm is giving u that data?

did u make the 2nd drive dynamic?

Title: Re: Setting up a boot partition
Post by ben_mott on Dec 10th, 2006 at 4:45pm
useful information:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=18480

regards Ben
:)

Title: Re: Setting up a boot partition
Post by z8000783 on Dec 17th, 2006 at 12:29pm

Rad wrote on Dec 10th, 2006 at 3:59pm:
is there an o/s on the 2nd drive?

NO not yet, Thats what I am trying to do.

if you put one there, and disconnect the 1st, it should be bootable.
I hope so

how are u planning to get an o/s there?
Ghost 3003

clean install o/s? restore image? clone?
Image

are you planning to move the 2nd drive to the connector where the 1st drive is currently located?
Yes

sata?
??

what prgm is giving u that data?
Computer Management

did u make the 2nd drive dynamic?
Not deliberately


I have just posted all the requirements on a new post if that helps.

Thanks Rad

John

Title: Re: Setting up a boot partition
Post by z8000783 on Dec 17th, 2006 at 12:30pm

ben_mott wrote on Dec 10th, 2006 at 4:45pm:
useful information:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=18480

regards Ben
:)



Thanks Ben I will read up on this.

Title: Re: Setting up a boot partition
Post by z8000783 on Dec 17th, 2006 at 12:37pm
I have been looking at this for a while now and still confused Im afraid even after the great help from people here.

Anyway rather than try to understand how Ghost and XP work together I thought I would simply layout my setup and then describe what I am looking for from this system in the hope that it makes sense to someone.

I have this set-up on my main machine currently (please excuse any poor use of terminology BTW).

HD0 Partition 1 78GB Boot Drive and then becomes C: Type Basic System Contains windows and programs used 15 GB
HD0 Partition 2 70GB Becomes D: Used for backup data from HD1P2 at the moment.

HD1 Partition 1 20GB Ghost drive Type Dynamic No data, I am hoping to set this us as a clone of C: (more later) E:
HD1 Partition 2 90GB Data Drive Type Dynamic Main data drive contains all working data

Hope that make sense.

Now I use Ghost 2003 which is on a floppy  I have booted the floppy into DOS and made an Image from a Partition (HD0P1).

This strategy is designed to give me a working system if HD0 fails. If HD1 fails I have backups of my data so no problem. If HD0 fails and the PC is still Ok then I want to be up and running quickly.

Therefore I am looking to recreate the C: drive on the E: drive and make this a bootable partition. When I then lose HD0 I will take it out and boot up with HD1. My old E: drive becomes the new C: and my data area F: becomes my new D:

To do this I will then restore the image I have created to HD1P1.

The problems I have encountered so far during trails is that HD1 becomes unbootable and when it did boot I lost the second partition i.e. all of my data.

Does this make since and is it do-able? If not How should I modify this strategy?

Thanks once again for you patients and your help.

John

Title: Re: Setting up a boot partition
Post by ben_mott on Dec 17th, 2006 at 3:57pm
Dynamic drives are bad news  I would stay clear of them .
i think they are a recepe for loosing your data . that is my personal opinion .ii have same bad feeling with CD-RW as opposeed to better media CD-R again that is my personal opinion (based on here say and what others say on different forums)
your system with all those partitions look complicated.
what i had posted earilier F10 recovery  is what IBM used to use or still do.
I would have say 2 drives first NTFS where XP is going to live.
and another drive fat32 where ghost image of the first NTFS drive is going to reside plus the content of a bootable floppy.
making  both drives primary. and bootable (hide the second drive so XP can not write to it. I also think transfered SYS: system files to second drive before hidding it .
the IBM use a Boot manager which I have posted on the floppy
you run the floppy(boot it) then choose 1 or something  to install
a MBR .
any way as I am not a program myself I have explained it like a layman in that link and it is not a waffle I have tested it and it all works on one computer.
the only thing I have not test is to copy the whole Disk l(2 partition) into another ghost image for deploying into exactly similar machineswith same architecture.
like IBM or E-machine do in their factories.
and mine is same as IBM 1 IDE HDD with 2 partition  both partitions are bootable and primary second is hidden and when you press F10 bootmanager kiks in and boots the second recovery partition whic got ghost command line option and thus installs
the XP image to the NTFS partition.
I would do it with 1 HDD same as mine then when you become good at it try it with 2 HDD instead of 2 partion see if it works .
if you are going to experiment disconnect the HDD with opeating system and data and connect the second HDD  and experiment on that .
if you need immidiate back up there are some new multiple drives called NAS Network attached storage which copy data to 4 HDD
and if one HDD fails the software kicks the spare drive in until the faulty drive is replaced .

cheers Ben

;)

Title: Re: Setting up a boot partition
Post by z8000783 on Dec 22nd, 2006 at 7:55am
Problem is I dont know why it created the Dynamic drive, I didnt specify it.

On other machines I have had the option to make it an Active partition. What do I have to do to get that?

What I dont want is for the system to think that HD1 looks like the current HD0 which is what happened when I tried it before.

John

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