I have just finished running the Win. Vista upgrade adviser, and have been told my copy of Ghost 10 is incompatible and will have to be uninstalled before the upgrade...

My copy of Partition Magic is also suspect, and may not work...

Trying to get information on Symantec's website, is like getting teeth from a hen...

Does anyone have any info. on this... ???

ghost 10 incompatible with vista?

i'm interested to hear what the ghost 9/10 gurus have to say.

can you re-install it after the upgrade?

any screenshots of this notice you can post?

i'd like to see for myself.

Hi Rad... You can believe it, see the attached file,,, D
Can't figure how to attach a file !
So copied & pasted.
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Program details:
Review these program issues for Windows Vista
Check the following table for program issues you should address to ensure they will work properly with Windows Vista.  Issue Type Program Vendor Version Data Source Action Required
 Norton Ghost 10.0  Symantec Corporation 10.0.0 Microsoft This program must be uninstalled before upgrading to Windows Vista. After upgrading, you will not be able to reinstall the program due to compatibility issues. For more information, go to the vendor's website.  
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 9  Sun Microsystems, Inc. 1.5 Microsoft This program might have minor compatibility issues after upgrading to Windows Vista. For more information, go to the vendor's website.  
Norton PartitionMagic 8.0  Symantec 8.5 Microsoft This program might have minor compatibility issues after upgrading to Windows Vista. For more information, go to the vendor's website.  
Messenger  Microsoft Corporation 4.7.0.3001 Microsoft This program might have minor compatibility issues after upgrading to Windows Vista. For more information, go to the vendor's website.  

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Dave_c, have you asked Symantec about the compatibility of Ghost 10 with Windows Vista?  For a “live chat” with Symantec Technical Support, connect to:  http://live-symantec.custhelp.com

Note that Windows Vista Ultimate appears to include its own image backup utility, as described in this thread.

Pleonasm wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2006 at 10:26am:

Dave_c, have you asked Symantec about the compatibility of Ghost 10 with Windows Vista?  For a “live chat” with Symantec Technical Support, connect to:  http://live-symantec.custhelp.com

Yes, I just finished chatting with them. As usual it was pretty much a waste of time. They obviously hadn't heard anything, and said the Symantec products weren't tested yet for Vista.
They even claimed Vista was still in Beta. I think we all know that it has been released to the manufacturer, and I think we have to believe the Upgrade Adviser. What do you think ?

Dave_C, Microsoft still lists a retail release date of January 30, 2007 for Windows Vista on its website, so it is quite possible that Symantec is waiting before making available a version of Ghost that will work in conjunction with Vista.  Note that Symantec doesn't list Vista as a supported operating system for any of its PC products at this time.  Clearly, Symantec isn't going to abandon the Windows Vista marketplace, so I wouldn't be too concerned that there will not be a version of Ghost that works with Vista.

If the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor says that Ghost 10 isn't compatible, then I would assume that the assessment is correct.

Pleonasm wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2006 at 12:48pm:

Dave_C, Clearly, Symantec isn't going to abandon the Windows Vista marketplace, so I wouldn't be too concerned that there will not be a version of Ghost that works with Vista. If the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor says that Ghost 10 isn't compatible, then I would assume that the assessment is correct.

Pleonasm... Thanks for that, I would certainly agree with everything you have said... D  :)

dave, thx for posting the contents of that file.

pleo is the man when it comes to this type of stuff.

Here is the latest on the Symantec thing, regarding the Compatibility with Vista. Just got a reply from them...
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Dave, please note that Norton Ghost 10.0 is not compatible with Windows Vista Operating system. Symantec does not recommend to install it on a system with that configuration . Please be aware that we are not responsible for any issue if you are using Norton ghost 10.0 on such systems.
. This issue has been reported to Symantec Development, but currently we have not been able to reproduce this issue.
  We will continue our efforts in tracking this issue, and will update the Symantec Online Knowledge Base to include new updates.
 Please follow the document provided below for further information.

Title: 'Windows Vista Beta compatibility with Norton Products'
Document ID: 2006062012031913
> Web URL: http://service1.symantec.com/Support/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2006062012031913?Open&src=con_ols_nam

In looking at the Symantec website, it appears that only Norton Confidential, Norton Internet Security 2007, Norton AntiVirus 2007, and Norton 360 are in a Windows Vista "beta" state.  From this fact I infer that the other Norton products (e.g., Ghost 10) are unlikely to be offered for Windows Vista when it is released.  Presumably, these prdoucts will be coming at a later date.

Pleonasm wrote on Dec 27^th, 2006 at 3:52pm:

In looking at the Symantec website,   Presumably, these prdoucts will be coming at a later date.

That's how I read it too Pleo.
However, I think there's a pretty good back-up program coming in Vista. If it's as good as it sounds, there may be no need of Ghost 10.
I do think that Symantec will produce though...
:)

dave_c wrote on Dec 27^th, 2006 at 5:32pm:

I think there's a pretty good back-up program coming in Vista. If it's as good as it sounds, there may be no need of Ghost 10.

dave_c,

I haven't tried Vista but in its Newsgroup a few people stated that the imaging app in Vista could only do whole disk images and not partition images. We will know if this is true shortly.

Frodo is in the process of testing whether his Ghost 9 plugin for BartPE works with Vista.

Brian, this presentation by Microsoft will be of interest.

Note that "A CompletePC backup is a complete backup copy of your disks" (disks = plural, see Slide #15), suggesting that it encompasses all partitions on the drive.  A restore, however, can be limited to only the system partition (excluding data partitions), if the user so chooses (see Slide #18 ).

Thanks Pleo, That was very informative indeed.
As I understand it, certain parts of the back-up will only be available in certain versions of Vista. With the basic version having little,
and the complete back-up only being in the Business version on up.

It all sounds very confusing at the moment, but am I correct in assuming you can get by without Ghost ?

I have a new Media Centre PC and as such, qualify for a Vista Premium Upgrade...
Do you think there will be sufficient back-up in this version ?   :)

Thanks as well, Pleo. That was informative. I don't like whole disk images but I know many here prefer these images. I'd expect non tech users to buy the cheaper versions of Vista which won't have imaging backup.

No news from Frodo yet.

Brian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 4:59pm:

Frodo is in the process of testing whether his Ghost 9 plugin for BartPE works with Vista.

Good news for Ghost 9ers. Frodo has confirmed that you can create and restore images of Vista partitions using his plugin.

Dave_c, the CompletePC backup capability for home users will only be available in the “Ultimate” edition of Windows Vista.

Personally, I am waiting until about January, 2008 before using Vista in order to allow time for Microsoft and other software/hardware manufacturers to resolve the set of initial difficulties with the new operating system.

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Brian, has Frodo abandoned efforts for a Ghost 10 plug-in?  If so, what was the hurdle that could not be overcome?

Pleonasm wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2007 at 8:41am:

Personally, I am waiting until about January, 2008 before using Vista in order to allow time for Microsoft and other software/hardware manufacturers to resolve the set of initial difficulties with the new operating system. * * * * * * * * * *

Pleo... I can appreciate what your saying re: Vista
However, I did run the Vista  compatibility test, and the only hardware prob. I have is my HP scanner ( no big deal ) and the only software prob. was the Symantec stuff.
According to their upgrade page, they are working on it at this time, and the Site says they have some upgrades already. I checked and it looked like they were all for 2007 versions.
All of my versions are pre.

Just a thought, but does anyone know about the new MS security
suite that is available for trial now...

Pleonasm wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2007 at 8:41am:

Brian, has Frodo abandoned efforts for a Ghost 10 plug-in?

Pleonasm, yes. I've been trying to get a quote from Frodo's post on the Ghosts but the 911CD forum has been out of action for a day.

Pleonasm, Frodo did say the Ghost 10 plugin would never happen. Here's a quote on his affection for Ghost 10.


Quote:

look at the bloated mess that Ghost 10 and its newer (and pointless) derivatives became. they seemed to be trying to find the most awkward experience to put a user through to do the most mundane of tasks, ghost 10 was truly a user interface nightmare.

I think I would agree with that quote above.
Although once you get used to it,  it works quite well. They certainly could have made it a little easier though...

This might help...
Copied from Symantec Website....
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/themes/vista/index.jsp
Compatibility Updates
Products purchased under our service plans, such as Norton Anti virus 2006 and Norton Anti virus 2007, are eligible for Microsoft® Windows Vista™ compatibility update subject to production release of the Windows Vista operating system within the service period. Users will be informed via live update and within the website if compatibility updates are available.
Which Symantec products will be Windows Vista compatible?
A variety of Norton products will be compatible with the Windows Vista operating system. For our new products, look for the “Eligible for a free Windows™ Vista compatibility update” statement next to the Designed for Microsoft® Windows™ XP logo on the box or on our online product page. Symantec will release more information about compatibility and upgrades as the
Windows Vista availability date approaches.
Which Symantec products will require an update to be compatible with Windows Vista?
Unless Windows Vista compatibility is stated on the box or product page, all Norton products made available prior to the release Windows Vista will need to be updated to support the Windows Vista operating system.
How do I upgrade my Norton products to be compatible with Windows Vista?
Please check back here for additional product-specific and other information related to Windows Vista. We will be updating this site on a regular basis.

Brian, I see that a BartPE plug-in for Ghost 10 isn’t forthcoming (Reply #19).  I was hoping that Frodo would have provided a technical summary of what was preventing the development of the plug-in (rather than a subjective “rant”) . . . .

If he isn’t aware of it, the COM interface for Ghost 10 might be of interest to Frodo.