Rad, thanks for the forum update!  It looks snazzy.   8-)

I was getting ready to compliment you on the brighter (white) background look, but see you're reverted back to black.  I can live with that.

But, I wondered if you can make the font-size just slightly larger?  Not necessarily as large as the old board, but it would make it easier to read, if that is possible.  I can't seem to adjust it myself with the IE text size option.

Secondly, as a cleanup suggestion:  Why not move/fold the last "General Discussion Board" as the 4th topic in the Radified Community Boards?  It could be renamed as "Non-Ghost Related General Discussion Board" or something similar.  That way when you get the first page you clearly see the four forums in a logical order.

This new forum software gives you the option of getting back the white (original default) board by eiting you profile. Somewhere in there is the option:

"Which template would you like to use?"

Click the drop down and select the other, which is *not* blk_gry3d"

I'm still figuring out this new software. I'll see what can be done with text size.

OK.  Found the template option, and thanks for your work and the great forum!

Thanks for the BiggerText template in options.

Ghost4me + Rad

I played around with the text size/template setting--I added the BiggerText template (Just so you know it's not a *Ghost* in the system  ;) ! )

haha!

I saw that and was scratching my head for the longest time .. wondering where it came from.

Shoulda known NightOwl was at work behind the scenes.

I am scared to movd that last board up into the group with the other three, feeling I might LOSE all those posts if I do, cuz they are contained under that hierarchy.

But I agree, it would look slicker if they were all together.

Back when I first installed the boards, I was adding different options just to see how they worked. Now, years later, we may be locked into various formats. Hindsight is always 20-20.

Rad


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I am scared to movd that last board up into the group with the other three, feeling I might LOSE all those posts if I do, cuz they are contained under that hierarchy.

Backup and give it a go!  Restore if it tanks on you!  That's my *Ghosting* motto (or should that *Model*?!


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Back when I first installed the boards, I was adding different options just to see how they worked. Now, years later, we may be locked into various formats. Hindsight is alwasy 20-20.

I wondered if that was going to be an issue!

I plan on tweaking the sizes a little more soon--so stay tuned!

I'm not sure the back-up would be valid if the overall *structure* of the boards, are/were affected.

For example, you can see by the address of the old threads in that board:

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=Extra_Rad_Forum;action=display;num=1173656542

how I named the board the *Extra*_Rad_Forum.

I feel that the risk/reward structure for trying a change sucks.

If it works, it's just a minor cosmetic improvement, but if it tanks, we lose ~1,000 killer posts.

Rad wrote on Mar 26^th, 2007 at 12:05am:

I'm not sure the back-up would be valid if the overall *structure* of the boards, are/were affected.

It was just a minor suggestion.  Obviously more complicated than I thought.  (I had envisoned it was like Windows Explorer where you can drag/drop a subfolder up to a folder.)

Thanks Rad... and crew!
The new boards look great.
Thanks NightOwl... the larger text option helped alot.

768 PIXELS WIDE

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/El_Pescador/XT768.jpg


Rad -

In dealing with digitized images to display online, I use pixels for units of measure and increments of 64, i.e, 64, 128, 256, 512, et cetera.  Prior to updating the forum format, the dimension of 768 pixels [512+256] (see above) was the maximum width for an image that would not throw the stock view out of whack.  Under the current framework, 704 pixels [512+128+64] (see below) is now the maximum width before compensation is required.

Even without counting other contributors, I alone have 251 online images currently stored at photobucket.com, all set at 768 pixels maximum dimension (most often width) and a very high proportion of them are available for display in the Radified Community Forums.  Is there an adjustment to slightly increase the width of the "matting" (border of the background) to accommodate the images onhand?

EP :'(


704 PIXELS WIDE

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/El_Pescador/XT704.jpg

A few observations on Pesky's post...
I like that if a large image is posted for whatever reason, that post gets its own set of scroll bars and doesn't throw off all other posts but...
in order to read the text to the far right, I had to scroll down past the second image to scroll right then back up again to read the text whick now I could not read the left side :-/

Every time I try to save a post, I get an IE7 Message:  "Do you want to allow this webpage to access to your clipboard?"

Any idea why that is?

regarding pesky's post .. what do you mean by "compensation"?

do mean side-to-side scrolling?

i need no side-to-side scrolling with those images. in fact, i have plenty of space left over.

i use screen resolution 1280x800. what are you using?? 1024X768? (800x600)??

i'll see what can be done, but don't think it should be a problem for most users with current screen resolutions.

john,

still investigating, but some info/work-arounds so far:

http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1155527412

Go to "Internet Options". Click on the "Security" tab. Select the zone in which you access YaBB (most likely Internet). Click "Custom Level". Scroll down to "Allow Programmatic Clipboard Access", and click Enable. Then click OK.

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As the security settings for my 'Internet' and 'Trusted' zones are the same, I've added this site and our site as a 'trusted' site and then enabled "Allow Programmatic Clipboard Access" as mentioned by Brett above.

It's not perfect but it'll do as didn't really want to enable it for the 'Internet' zone as I like to know what's being sent/received to the best of my knowledge and this IE7 addition may come in handy for this.

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Added a check-box on the Post reply page to enable/disable the auto-copy message before Post/Preview. By default the check-box is checked (enable auto-copy) if the browser is IE 6.0 or older and un-checked (disable auto-copy) if the browser is IE 7.0

Rad wrote on Mar 26^th, 2007 at 1:42pm:

"... do mean side-to-side scrolling?...

YES


Rad wrote on Mar 26^th, 2007 at 1:42pm:

"... what are you using?? 1024X768?..."

YES

EP :'(

as mentioned above, i added radified to my "trusted site" list (only site listed there) and enabled:

"Allow Programmatic clipboard access"

(had to scroll way down near the bottom.)

that seems to have remove the prompt in IE7.

pesky, are you full-screen? settings max'ed out side to side?

is 1024x768 your max? can you bump up resolution?|

Rad wrote on Mar 26^th, 2007 at 2:02pm:

as mentioned above, i added radified to my "trusted site" list (only site listed there) and enabled: "Allow Programmatic clipboard access" (had to scroll way down near the bottom.) that seems to have remove the prompt in IE7.

That worked for me too.  Thanks.

Cool.

Yeah, that was getting to be a real pain. I was hoping it figure out my preferences by itself, but no such luck.

Rad wrote on Mar 26^th, 2007 at 2:06pm:

"... are you full-screen? settings max'ed out side to side?... is 1024x768 your max? can you bump up resolution?..."

Full-screen, max'ed out side-to-side... at 1280x800 images are somewhat distorted.

I can't modify any of my posts copied over from the old board onto this board anymore.  I was trying to update a few url's and on any posting that wasn't created in the last two days, I only see the Quote but NOT the Quote/Modify/Delete icons.

1. Did the id's carry over?
2. Will there be any mass Find/Replace of url's to fix them, as documented here:
http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174945931

Rad wrote on Mar 26^th, 2007 at 2:21pm:

Cool. Yeah, that was getting to be a real pain. I was hoping it figure out my preferences by itself, but no such luck.

Regarding the clipboard update, I discovered that the new board copies the post into the clipboard before posting it.  That's why the window-alert-popup occurs.  You can verify this by posting something, and then immeditely edit/paste function into an open notepad screen.  Not sure the reason, but that is what is happening.

I guess if there was some failure in the posting or dropping of the Internet connection, you would not have lost your whole post, which has happened a few times in the past.  If I am composing a long post, as a safety precaution I usually select all/copy/paste to the notepad periodically.

Well that's a cool feature, especially if you were to lose the post, which is not unheard of.

I changed the max post length from a default of 5500, to 9999.

And now the prompt makes sense.

I will see if it copied this post to my clipboard.

You're right. It did.  :)

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I can't modify any of my posts copied over from the old board onto this board anymore.

That's weird. I can see edit button. Maybe cuz I am logged in as admin.

Seems like the new forum doesn't recognize that you were the one who created the post.

Lemme make you a moderator and see if that gives you the edit option.

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at 1280x800 images are somewhat distorted

How are they distorted?

Rad wrote on Mar 27^th, 2007 at 1:51am:

"... How are they distorted?..."

Oops, the distortion was in the original image at the original scale.  I just failed to notice it earlier.

Pesky :'(

Rad wrote on Mar 27^th, 2007 at 1:30am:

Regarding: Quote: I can't modify any of my posts copied over from the old board onto this board anymore. That's weird. I can see edit button. Maybe cuz I am logged in as admin. Seems like the new forum doesn't recognize that you were the one who created the post. Lemme make you a moderator and see if that gives you the edit option.

I now have the edit option, not only for my own posts but for ALL posts.  So, that wouldn't be a good global workaround.  Appears that there is a unique ID-field associated with each logonid which didn't carry over or requires special handling.

(you can remove my moderator setting now. thanks.)

I posted a question over in the YaBB "General Use & Troubleshooting Features" forum:

http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1175009025

I just noticed that there is a way (for admins, anyway) to MOVE "off-topic replies" to their own (new thread) .. altho I'm not sure exactly how I did it. Must have accidentally clicked a stray button somewhere. I deleted the subsequent post & thread, since the previous post is not "off-topic"

Oh, I see .. there's a "split" button next to the "modify" button. It "splits a thread, start with current post, and starts a new thread. (I do a lot of post-modifying.) I must have accidentally clicked that button.

Rad wrote on Mar 27^th, 2007 at 10:38am:

I posted a question over in the YaBB "General Use & Troubleshooting Features" forum: http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1175009025

I read the post (and suggested solution) there.

One of my posts started from the old board, however, was only 6 days ago, and I cant' modify it:
http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174501169

Okay, the default was set to 1 day (stingy).

I changed it to 9999 days.  :) (I love to edit.)

See if you can edit now.

Pesky,

So you are good with viewing images?

What options does Moderator priviledges give you here at the new forum? Same as at the old forum?

That took care of the old post editing.  Thanks.


John. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2007 at 8:25pm:

2. Will there be any mass Find/Replace of url's to fix them, as documented here: http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174945931

Are there any utilities in the yabbforum that would facilitate this?  The fear I would have is that someone would get referred/linked to an old-board-post and then reply on the old board.

Rad wrote on Mar 27^th, 2007 at 12:22pm:

"... Pesky, So you are good with viewing images? What options does Moderator priviledges give you here at the new forum? Same as at the old forum?..."

Compare images below of 'old' versus 'new':

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/El_Pescador/OldPriv.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/El_Pescador/NewPriv.jpg

Pesky :'(

No such utilities that I am aware of, but it can't hurt to ask around.

After I finish deleting all current memberships at old forum, I am going to "lock" it (tho I haven't yet determine exactly how I'm going to do that). Folks attempting to register there will be presented with a page informing them of the new forum's location .. which is what I did, editing the "agreement" text there:

oops, wrong forum. here's the register button to OLD forum:

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=;action=register

Pesky,

Priviledges for the two look the same, no? (I see the Pesky tear.)

Rad wrote on Mar 27^th, 2007 at 12:27am:

Well that's a cool feature, especially if you were to lose the post, which is not unheard of. And now the prompt makes sense. I will see if it copied this post to my clipboard.

The only downside I have seen by allowing it (and it's a minor one) is that if you purposefully put something in the clipboard and are switching between different screens, I have a couple times accidently pasted a posting, when I had intended to paste what I *thought* was in the clipboard.

That happened to me when I was updating all the url's in FAQ and had the new string in my clipboard.  Again minor point, but one to be aware of.

I see. Point taken.

Finished combing thru the Ghost guide, looking for links which pointed to threads in the old forum (found many) and redirected them to the same threads in THIS forum.

http://ghost.radified.com/

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174945931

this forum uses a simpler url structure. (simpler = better)

FYI .. I installed this Admin mod today:

http://www.boardmod.org/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=newsy2;action=display;num=1138744711

to give us a little more control over the forum.

.. and this email mod:

http://www.boardmod.org/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=newsy2;action=display;num=1167942221

which gives us some tools in case we ever get attacked by spammers like we did last summer.

So that makes 4 mod installed all together (including the news fader and advertising mods).

Ghost4me


John. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2007 at 1:43pm:

Rad wrote on Mar 27th, 2007 at 12:27am: Well that's a cool feature, especially if you were to lose the post, which is not unheard of. And now the prompt makes sense. I will see if it copied this post to my clipboard. The only downside I have seen by allowing it (and it's a minor one) is that if you purposefully put something in the clipboard and are switching between different screens, I have a couple times accidently pasted a posting, when I had intended to paste what I *thought* was in the clipboard. That happened to me when I was updating all the url's in FAQ and had the new string in my clipboard.  Again minor point, but one to be aware of.

Instead of *Enable* for *Allow Programmatic Clipboard Access*--you can select *Disable*--now the program acts like the old Forum and your message does not get pasted to the clipboard!

So it depends on whether you want the forum to automatically backup your message before posting as a protection against loss during the process of the posting of the message--and having your current clipboard data over-written--or simply preventing the forum from accessing the clipboard!

NightOwl wrote on Mar 28^th, 2007 at 11:34pm:

Instead of *Enable* for *Allow Programmatic Clipboard Access*--you can select *Disable*--now the program acts like the old Forum and your message does not get pasted to the clipboard!

Thanks, I figured that out.  My own summary of this is that:  The new Rad forum boards probably should NOT have this feature enabled by default.  Every member that posts (using IE7 default settings) will have to figure out what the pop-up problem is, search for solution, setup custom security settings, etc.

It's working fine for me.  I'm surprised that others haven't commented about the change and the required workarounds.

[From Rad's other account.]

I have used it a few times already, with PM messages. Was sweet.

CTRL-V .. and I'm golden.

I don't think there is an on/off switch anywhere. I'll post a message for others.

See here:

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1175144143 (stickified)

El_Pescador wrote on Mar 26^th, 2007 at 11:20am:

"... Rad - In dealing with digitized images to display online, I use pixels for units of measure and increments of 64, i.e, 64, 128, 256, 512, et cetera.  Prior to updating the forum format, the dimension of 768 pixels [512+256] (see above) was the maximum width for an image that would not throw the stock view out of whack.  Under the current framework, 704 pixels [512+128+64] (see below) is now the maximum width before compensation is required. Even without counting other contributors, I alone have 251 online images currently stored at photobucket.com, all set at 768 pixels maximum dimension (most often width) and a very high proportion of them are available for display in the Radified Community Forums.  Is there an adjustment to slightly increase the width of the "matting" (border of the background) to accommodate the images onhand?..."

Well, I think I have discerned that there is no ready fix for my squawk.  Notice that only the single panel containing text or graphics in each of the three images stacked below in a mosaic can 'zoom-in' or 'zoom-out', i.e., expand or contract.  I think we are stuck with displaying images not much wider than 704 pixels.  Popeye upon his horizontal panel stay the same size along with those vertical bands of 'real estate' marked with the '<||>' symbol turned vertically.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/El_Pescador/BigStack.jpg

EP :'(

Pesky, I was digging around and found a place to modify the width of the template, which I changed from a default of 90% to 94%.

Does that change anything for you?

I only changed it in the default theme > blk_gry3d .. none of the others .. such as medium or large versions.

Not sure it actually changed anything. Only you would be able to tell.

[edit]okay, i can definitely tell the forum widened. (i am using blk_gry3d.) what theme are you using? [/edit]

btw .. for NightOwl the tweaker, i found it here:


Code:

/* Anything below here is just for the template */ #container{      background-color: transparent;      width: 90%;      margin-left: auto;      margin-right: auto;      padding: 0px;      border-top: 0px;      margin-bottom: 10px;      font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;

Edit style sheet (in 'source' mode .. small button on top). Set width of #container entry (near bottom) to the desired width, instead of 90%.

Again, I only changed this for blk_gry3d .. none of the others.

Rad


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I only changed this for blk_gry3d .. none of the others

I found where the code is for changing the *container*, but I'm not sure what you have already done!  

The other templates still say 90%, but I can't find any examples of where there is a *too wide* image that requires side-to-side scrolling--maybe El_Pescador has re-sized all his previous images--

Or, have you made some other more *global* change to the boards core program files?

NightOwl wrote on Apr 15^th, 2007 at 11:37am:

"... but I can't find any examples of where there is a *too wide* image that requires side-to-side scrolling--maybe El_Pescador has re-sized all his previous images..."

I resized some but not all.  Search on the word 'bridge' and you will find screenshots related to Ghost 2003 that still require "side-to-side scrolling".

Regrettably, I can turn up no shortcuts in resizing.  Retroactively resizing existing Photobucket.com images to 640x480 pixels does not seem to work if the image has already been posted under the same name (and said name cannot be changed inside Photobucket.com) >:(

Pesky :'(

I made no global changes. Only blk_gry3d.

El_Pescador

Searched on *bridge* and could not find a single post that had an image that didn't fit!

Searched your last 99 posts--no images that wouldn't fit!

I'm sure I was using this old CRT 17" monitor when the forum was transitioned a couple weeks ago--and I remember some of your screen shots needed side to side scrolling--but now they do not!!  I don't know what has changed!

NightOwl wrote on Apr 15^th, 2007 at 7:31pm:

"... Searched your last 99 posts--no images that wouldn't fit!..."

Try the link below from one of my all-time favorite threads (it is a "side-to-side misfit" here tonight on this end at any rate):

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1095438251/236#236

Pesky :'(

El_Pescador

Well...d a r n--I go to that link and everything is fine on my end--no scrolling side to side needed.

I'm using a 17" CRT monitor set at 1280 by 960 pixels resolution--so if your images are *768 pixels*--and I have 960 available--well I guess I have enough spare to fit your images in without any scrolling--even when I use the largest font setting--which I presume does not effect the image pixel size!

I was sure I saw the need for side to side scrolling on your earlier posts in this thread just after the forum update--no idea what has changed!

El_Pescador

Was using a friend's computer that was set at 1024 x 768 LCD monitor--your link above did have images that required side to side scrolling--I have set all the templates *container* to *96%*--does that solve the scrolling on your system?  --it solved it on my friend's system.

NightOwl wrote on Apr 16^th, 2007 at 9:45pm:

"... computer that was set at 1024 x 768 LCD monitor--your link above did have images that required side to side scrolling--I have set all the templates *container* to *96%*--does that solve the scrolling on your system?..."

Yes, indeed  :o   The only rig I have up and running since Hurricane Katrina is the Dell Dimension 8100 salvaged from the floodwaters and a 19-inch Samsung CRT that remained safely elevated (my makeshift scaffolding overturned and - and among other things - I lost my favorite Dell LCD monitor).  I find 1024x768 the most comfortable settting on the CRT monitor for my aging eyes ::)

Your diligence saved me a lot of tedious "photoshoppin", sho' 'nuff[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Pesky :'(

NightOwl wrote on Apr 16^th, 2007 at 9:45pm:

I have set all the templates *container* to *96%

Thanks, bro.