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Message started by El_Pescador on Jun 2nd, 2007 at 8:29pm

Title: MAIN "hot-image" with RESERVE "cold-image" backup
Post by El_Pescador on Jun 2nd, 2007 at 8:29pm

rulirahm wrote on Jun 2nd, 2007 at 8:30am:
"... And I don't touch anything but still error..."

Quote:
"... Paratroopers and parachutists carry two parachutes.  The primary parachute is called a main parachute, the secondary is called a reserve parachute.  The jumper uses the reserve if the main parachute fails to deploy or operate correctly..."

Wikipedia

For those encountering difficulty with the lineal descendants of PowerQuest Drive Image 7.n there is an alternative
measure to consider when deliberating on implementing a main/reserve approach to ensuring the security of system contents, albeit only Pleonasm has reported actual experience in doing so.  View the image below to realize that there are indeed "two-sides-of-the-street-to-walk-on".  Actually, with either Norton Ghost 10.0, Norton Save
& Restore, or the Symantec Recovery Disk included with Norton SystemWorks 2006 Premier one can boot up with
the factory installation CD alone to either "walk-on-the-dark-side (hot-imaging)" or "walk-on-the-bright-side
(cold-imaging)"
.   However, to enjoy the greatest confidence with the latter one would be wise to adopt the
"(whole)disk-to-image" legacy Norton Ghost Backup procedure with its concomitant "image-to-disk" legacy Ghost Restore whenever "cold-imaging".  Not to be overlooked is the ability to extract individual files and folders from the global "cold-image" without the necessity of restoring the entire image.  Plausibly, the only caveat I can imagine is incompatibility with the Vista OS series.  

 

To enjoy such flexibility, one can start off by simply using the relevant installation CD in booting up into what is called the Windows XP Preinstallation Environment to immediately engage the legacy Backup/Restore "cold-imaging" procedures by following the path 'Recover > Recover Data on My Computer > Recover using a legacy Ghost image' and create a "disk-to-image" legacy Norton Ghost Backup image to reside anywhere else other than on the MASTER HDD.  Doing this yields the side benefit of bypassing both USB mass-storage device and - most, if not all - SATA HDD glitches frequently encountered with DOS-dependent Norton Ghost 2003.  In essence, this procedure uses restoreghost.exe (an alternate name for ghost32.exe) to allow both immediate creation of Ghost Backup images or the converse Restore (recovery) of such images that are in fact totally compatible and interchangeable with those *.gho/*.ghs files created with the ghost.exe of Norton Ghost 2003 - but not with those files created with Norton Ghost 9, 10.0, 12, S&R software during "hot-imaging" sesssions.

One could probably use Norton Ghost 2003 on bootable removable media to essentially do the same thing, but I have found Norton Ghost Ver 8.2 running in WIN PE to be more robust under deteriorating conditions.  One would be well advised to perform an Integrity Check on the legacy Ghost Backup image which now constitutes the reserve image to be updated periodically while the "hot-imaging" products can be used to produce the main image for routine operations on a daily basis.

As an aside, if one you really wanted to get downright fancy, he could even go so far as to incorporate the essential components of the "cold-imaging" Norton Ghost Ver 8.2 while generating a bootable BartPE or Reatogo-X-PE CD to run in the Windows XP Preinstalled Environment (see below).  In the event of a HDD failure or catastrophic viral attack, this is indeed a handy item to have to start down the road to recovery.



EP :'(

Title: Re: Having a RESERVE component when the MAIN fails
Post by Rama on Jun 3rd, 2007 at 12:18am
[quote author=El_Pescador link=1180834151/0#0 date=1180834151

For those encountering difficulty with the lineal descendants of PowerQuest Drive Image 7.n there is an alternative measure to consider when deliberating on implementing a main/reserve approach to ensuring the security of system contents, albeit only Pleonasm has reported actual experience in doing so.  View the image below to realize that there are indeed "two-sides-of-the-street-to-walk-on".  Actually, with either Norton Ghost 10.0, Norton Save & Restore, or the Symantec Recovery Disk included with Norton SystemWorks 2006 Premier one can boot up with the factory installation CD alone to either "walk-on-the-dark-side (hot-imaging)" or "walk-on-the-bright-side (cold-imaging)".   However, to enjoy the greatest confidence with the latter one would be wise to adopt the "(whole)disk-to-image" legacy Norton Ghost Backup procedure with its concomitant "image-to-disk" legacy Ghost Restore whenever "cold-imaging".  Not to be overlooked is the ability to extract individual files and folders from the global "cold-image" without the necessity of restoring the entire image.  Plausibly, the only caveat I can imagine is incompatibility with the Vista OS series.  [/quote]

In the corporate version of symantec ghost solution suite whose main component is Ghost, there are Windows and DOS versions of Ghost programs. They are compatible with W98 thru Vista. Only downside is the cost due to licensing of a min of 5 copies.
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Title: Re: Having a RESERVE component when the MAIN fails
Post by El_Pescador on Jun 3rd, 2007 at 8:24pm

El_Pescador wrote on Jun 2nd, 2007 at 8:29pm:

Quote:
"... Paratroopers and parachutists carry two parachutes.  The primary parachute is called a main parachute, the secondary is called a reserve parachute.  The jumper uses the reserve if the main parachute fails to deploy or operate correctly..."

Wikipedia

Title: Re: MAIN "hot-image" with RESERVE "cold-image" bac
Post by Rad on Jun 4th, 2007 at 8:13am
interesting find.

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