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Title: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 9:15am

Noticed "Most users online" stat .. was yesterday (Sunday, a weekend, typically slower) .. at 2:33 AM. Sup wit dat?

Obviously they're not based here in the US, since most of us were fast asleep. Wonder where they came from.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by NightOwl on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 10:26am

Rad

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since most of us were fast asleep

I was up and saw that happen--I was one of the three *users* on-line at the time!

Quote:

.. at 2:33 AM. Sup wit dat?

I wondered the same thing ;) !

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by amish on Jun 25^th, 2007 at 12:15pm

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I was up and saw that happen

Truly a NightOwl. :)

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by NightOwl on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 9:12am

amish

:) not able to sleep on that particular night--so what to do--Radify of course!

Rad

I noted this morning that a *new* *most guests* on-line occurred last night at exactly 2:33 am!!!! Same time as the previous high a couple days ago! Is this just coincidental (there is a full moon coming on Saturday--who me, superstitious?!!!), or does this suggest that the site is being targeted by some *zombie* computer network that is out there trying to *spam*, or *crash*, or whatever certain targeted sites?????

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 12:42pm

that is so weird.

what are the odds of it happening again, at exactly the same minute?

maybe i can review the access records and trace out some of the incoming visits.

too weird.

btw - amish is me in seamonkey browser. (i used to live in lancaster, pa .. center of the amish universe .. very nice people)

i sent an email to lunarpages support, to see if they have any insight into this phenomena. (they are the experts)

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by sumrica on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 1:23pm

Most Users ever online was 140 on Today at 13:21

Strange stuff. Is it some kind of attack?

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 2:26pm

149 at 11:33

there's that ":33" again.

very weird.

we have 88 now (at 12:20).

here are some ip's .. if anybody wants to trace some .. to see if we can see any patterns:

74.6.23.231, 74.6.25.217, 74.6.26.36, 74.6.24.202, 74.6.25.74, 74.6.28.76, 64.1.215.163, 74.6.20.117, 74.6.26.73, 74.6.22.47, 74.6.28.17, 74.6.28.124, 74.6.29.49, 74.6.28.100, 74.6.25.13, 74.6.26.14, 74.6.20.31, 74.6.28.14, 68.84.10.69, 74.6.27.104, 128.163.47.134, 74.6.25.211, 74.6.24.74, 66.249.72.101, 74.6.25.169, 74.6.25.118, 74.6.28.104, 74.6.20.165, 89.139.16.82, 74.6.25.147, 72.17.204.202, 74.6.28.44, 74.6.24.38, 74.6.28.30, 74.6.28.227, 74.6.27.11, 74.6.26.154, 217.24.240.11, 74.6.23.235, 74.6.23.142, 74.6.25.22, 74.6.29.12, 65.23.10.154, 74.6.23.147, 74.6.23.168, 209.222.205.12, 89.98.121.28, 74.6.20.25, 74.6.26.102, 84.36.80.250, 84.196.229.158, 74.6.69.148, 82.12.232.153, 24.205.234.237, 74.6.67.116, 12.4.203.251, 65.55.210.38, 68.4.48.133, 67.101.118.14, 74.6.18.104, 63.166.192.70, 4.250.120.206, 168.97.133.243, 89.212.97.169, 205.165.7.164, 65.55.210.39, 167.155.68.105, 74.6.24.134, 74.6.73.237, 125.26.179.32, 77.181.214.96, 80.248.248.133, 201.143.8.185, 199.46.200.232, 164.107.37.46, 70.230.188.177, 74.6.74.183, 74.6.29.47, 66.178.16.213, 74.6.27.117, 62.117.30.130, 74.6.18.28, 74.6.17.157, 204.196.189.241, 59.162.80.35, 74.6.20.48, 74.6.86.156, 80.216.245.220

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 2:35pm

here's a ping:

taken at 12:30.

not so good.

altho the server stats look fine. (server load = 4.11)

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 2:43pm

hey, check this out .. i traced one of the 74.6.xx addys:

looks like yahoo is here .. in force.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 2:47pm

here's a map view:

weird how it traces thru washington dc .. all the way across the dang country. not the most efficient route.

that's me down in irvine (so-cal).

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 2:49pm

yeah, all those 74.6.xx addys are tracing back to yahoo crawl.

i don't understand why they're using so many different ips.

i thot they just have *one* crawler crawl your site .. (with one ip)

we have over 3600 threads (~30K posts). looks like they want them all.

it's best if they dispatch their crawlers in the wee morning hours (like 2-3 am) when most folks are asleep, and the site isn't very busy.

right now is one of the site's busier times.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Ghost4me on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 3:20pm

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Most Users ever online was 149 on Today at 11:33am

Help, Invasion of the Forum-Body Snatchers! ;D

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 4:12pm

it's 2:10 in the afternoon.

we have 109 guests.

many of them with ips = 74.6.xx

so they are still here.

yahoo, if i recall correctly, is under new management, since their ceo stepped down (the guy with connections to the film industry).

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by sumrica on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 4:49pm

Goodness! This is one for the archives: The day Yahoo came callin'.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 9:02am

173 at 5:51 am.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by NightOwl on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 9:35am

What are they doing here for all that time???!!!

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 12:29pm

exactly what i was wondering.

i just traced the site (10:30 am). we have 110 guests & 8 members. trace looks great (17ms RT to kwan server):

NeoTrace Trace Version 3.25 Results
Target: radified.com
Date: 6/27/2007 (Wednesday), 10:28:17 AM
Nodes: 10

Node Data
Node Net Reg IP Address Location Node Name

3 2 1 75.16.63.254 Irvine adsl-75-16-63-254.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net
4 3 1 67.114.50.65 Irvine dist3-vlan60.irvnca.sbcglobal.net
5 4 1 151.164.41.221 Irvine bb1-g2-0.irvnca.sbcglobal.net
6 4 1 151.164.191.225 Los Angeles ex1-p14-0.eqlaca.sbcglobal.net
7 5 2 206.223.123.62 Los Angeles eqix-peer.lax01.mzima.net
8 6 2 64.235.224.182 Los Angeles xe1-0.cr01.lax02.mzima.net
9 7 2 72.37.172.26 Los Angeles ge2-lunarpages.cust.lax02.mzima.net
10 8 3 74.50.14.60 Fullerton kwan.lunarpages.com

Packet Data
Node High Low Avg Tot Lost
1 0 0 0 1 0
2 3 3 3 1 0
3 17 17 17 1 0
4 15 15 15 1 0
5 15 15 15 1 0
6 34 34 34 1 0
7 17 17 17 1 0
8 16 16 16 1 0
9 27 27 27 1 0
10 17 17 17 1 0

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by MrMagoo on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 4:20pm

Rad,

If the Yahoo bots begin to affect the performance of the server, you should be able to keep them off the forum using your .htaccess file. On the other hand, if they aren't hurting things, maybe what these bots report to Yahoo will help some new users find their way to Radified.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Ghost4me on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 5:17pm

Rad: It's your fault for tweaking your website to make those Ghost 12 forum titles easier for users to find the Radified forum! ;)

Look who's at the top of the Yahoo search results:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ghost+12+support

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ghost+10+support

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 5:29pm

Now John, you know those new forum titles were your idea. :)

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maybe what these bots report to Yahoo will help some new users find their way to Radified

Totally. Search engine spiders are welcome pests. There are prgms whose sole purpose is to invite spiders to crawl (& index) your site.

Some theories speculate invitations lower a site's rank. But when search engines find your site via links from other sites .. that's (supposedly) the best, and that's always been my strategy. Tho I was following this strategy before learning invitations (requests) might not be good.

Google & Yahoo and the big two.

But these Yahoo bots have been here for *days* now.

One time when I checked, server load was high. All other times .. looking good.

And I've been trace-routing the site periodically. Neotrace installs an icon-button on the IE toolbar. Makes it easy to check.

Right now (3:30), for example, RT is 37ms. That's fast.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Ghost4me on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 5:40pm

Rad wrote on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 5:29pm:

...But when search engines find your site via links from other sites .. that's (supposedly) the best, and that's always been my strategy.

I've run across links to the Radified forums for Ghost support on several other user support websites, which I'm sure helps. Even the newsgroup forums. I've even been *guilty* myself of answering a question and then including a link to the Radified forums for more info.

I am surprised (and don't know why) though that there is that peak of traffic. Your comments about a Yahoo bot are a good theory.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 27^th, 2007 at 7:01pm

273 at 2:35 PM.

They're multiplying. Maybe they're breeding here.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by NightOwl on Jun 28^th, 2007 at 2:05am

"Resistance is Futile , :-/ Prepare to be Assimulated"

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:18pm

We have 120 guests at 7:15 PM Thursday eve.

They are still here. It's like they've moved in. Somebody see if they want dinner.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:59pm

At 8PM, there are nearly 200 guests. Dang, they've been here nearly a week, now. Seems like they've started inviting their friends.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by sumrica on Jun 29^th, 2007 at 12:19pm

Rad wrote on Jun 28^th, 2007 at 9:59pm:

Seems like they've started inviting their friends.

Still Yahoo?
It'd be great if you saw an increase in ad clicks from this.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jun 29^th, 2007 at 1:48pm

Yes & yes.

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Ghost4me on Jun 29^th, 2007 at 3:42pm

NightOwl wrote on Jun 28^th, 2007 at 2:05am:

"Resistance is Futile , :-/ Prepare to be Assimulated"

Title: Re: Most users online at 2:33 AM?
Post by Rad on Jul 1^st, 2007 at 5:01pm

It's Sunday, July 1st. They are still here, tho seemed to have left for a while. We have ~100 'guests'.