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Rad Community Technical Discussion Boards (Computer Hardware + PC Software) >> Norton Ghost 2003, Ghost v8.x + Ghost Solution Suite (GSS) Discussion Board >> gost11/2003 & uide.sys/qcdrom.sys hung http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1195924072 Message started by billonious on Nov 24th, 2007 at 11:07am |
Title: Re: gost11/2003 & uide.sys/qcdrom.sys hung Post by NightOwl on Nov 24th, 2007 at 12:17pm
billonious
Why not try the MS-DOS optical drive driver *oakcdrom.sys* in [config.sys] and *mscdex.exe* in [autoexe.bat]--I know you said *oakcdrom.sys* doesn't allow for access to the DVD-ROM--but it allows access on three different DVD-ROM's on my systems if used with *mscdex.exe*? Or these other DOS drivers: CD-ROM DRIVERS 4 DOS Quote:
I believe that's for SATA optical drives only and should not work at all for IDE optical drives! Quote:
Where does that switch go--at the end of this line: devicehigh=DRIVERS\UIDE.SYS /B /D:IDE-CD /S127 ? Quote:
Is that a typo, or what switch is that? Quote:
Does *udma* even function in DOS--or is that a Windows based accelerator software? |
Title: Re: gost11/2003 & uide.sys/qcdrom.sys hung Post by billonious on Nov 24th, 2007 at 4:13pm
tnx u,
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As far as i know, Gcdrom is limited in sata. Qcdrom is supposed to work in both pata & sata. Quote:
You are absolutely right. Quote:
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Anyway, I found that vide-cdd.sys works at last. |
Title: Re: gost11/2003 & uide.sys/qcdrom.sys hung Post by NightOwl on Nov 24th, 2007 at 5:22pm
billonious
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Guess I was thinking of *gcdrom*--didn't realize there was a *qcdrom* driver! Did a Google search on the *Qcdrom* and found this readme file for v3.7: Quote:
Do you have other links or sources that say different? |
Title: Re: gost11/2003 & uide.sys/qcdrom.sys hung Post by billonious on Nov 25th, 2007 at 5:00am Quote:
no, I agree with you. I made vide-cdd & teac_cdi.sys work with ghost. Drivers by jack ellis crash when working with ghost, though they work flawlessly with volkov commander or plain dos command line. The conflict must be either in udma or in the memory managers that I use (xmgr.sys & umbipci.sys). Specifically, I think of the umbipci . ... Do you know any replacements of umbipci to test ? Emm386 is pretty big, 125 kb, qemm is nowhere, I haven't found it so far. |
Title: Re: gost11/2003 & uide.sys/qcdrom.sys hung Post by NightOwl on Nov 25th, 2007 at 9:44am
billonious
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Ah, good old DOS--programs crashing into each other somewhere in memory! Why the *out of the mainstream* DOS programs? Quote:
Google is your *friend*--just *ask*!: QEMM downloads, and Vetusware--the biggest free abandonware downloads collection in the universe. 12-14 years ago, I was a big fan of V7.xx and v8.xx! Mind you--I'm not endorsing the above! Be careful! QEMM is/was a copyrighted program--any source now has to be a pirated copy--watch out for potential bad website, etc...... |
Title: Re: gost11/2003 & uide.sys/qcdrom.sys hung Post by billonious on Nov 25th, 2007 at 12:37pm
I have already found this page http://www.chsoft.com/dv.html but whatever archieve I download (qemm8, qemm9.7), there is no qemm.sys! Only installers for hard disk! A possible file is qemm.qip 253 kb.
News... I commented UMBPCI.SYS line in config.sys, left the XMGR.SYS alone which MUST be loaded for uide to function. Nothing fixed. So, mem managers are not to blame. I am going to pull my hairs off. Next step is to replace as many drivers as I can with microsoft' standard mscdex.sys, himem.sys. |
Title: Re: gost11/2003 & uide.sys/qcdrom.sys hung Post by billonious on Nov 26th, 2007 at 4:02pm
;D
In the end, if you insist, you win. The incompatibility was caused by SHCDX33C.COM, which is a replacement of MSCDEX.EXE. It assigns letters to optical drives. I replaced it with the SHSUCDX.EXE and ghost works like magic. Shsucdx was made by Jason Hood, shcdx33c is a modified version of shsucdx, modified by jack ellis. No memory managers to blame for, no uide/qcdrom problems. I tested SHSUCDEX in real boot with these drivers: uide.sys, qcdrom.sys, vide-cdd.sys, necatapi.sys, teac_cdi.sys, and they all work without exception. They read my internal ide nec dvd drives and they don't crash when running ghost. I may have got a hacked & no functional version of SHCDX33C.COM or it is faulty. I am writing the configuration that works (now) in case is useful for somebody: CONFIG.SYS Quote:
AUTOEXEC.BAT Quote:
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Title: Re: gost11/2003 & uide.sys/qcdrom.sys hung Post by NightOwl on Nov 27th, 2007 at 10:28am
billonious
Thanks for your report back with your results! |
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