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Message started by Rad on Feb 18th, 2008 at 12:36pm

Title: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 18th, 2008 at 12:36pm
Heads up. I'm preparing to move the site .. to a WiredTree ("fully managed") VPS .. in Chicago. See this blog entry for more:

http://mt4.radified.com/2008/02/think-i-mightve-found-our-new-web-host-wiredtr.html

Any posts (including this one) made between now and when the new server is up are likely to be lost. So copy-n-save your posts in a local text file.

I'm backing-up the site now. Soon as that's verified, I'll place the order for the new VPS, and begin uploading the site .. extract the archive and begin configuring our new puppy. Fun city! The site at the new server should be notceably more responsive.

Wish me luck. This will be our first foray into the world of VPS. You can learn more about our new server here:

http://www.wiredtree.com/managedvps/index.php

http://www.wiredtree.com/managedvps/features.php

http://www.wiredtree.com/ournetwork/

http://www.wiredtree.com/ournetwork/datacenter.php

This is the nicest set-up I could find .. after considerable research. It has it everything I was looking for .. fully managed, cPanel / WHM, PHP5, MySQL 5 ... more memory (256 MB), bandwidth (300 gigs), and disk space (30 gigs) than we'll ever use.

I am pinging ~80ms to the WireTree site:


Quote:
NeoTrace Trace  Version 3.25  Results
Target: www.wiredtree.com
Date: 2/18/2008 (Monday), 11:06:26 AM
Nodes: 20

Node Data
Node Net Reg IP Address      Location            Node Name
  1   -   -                        Anaheim
  2   1   -                       Unknown            
  3   2   1                      Irvine
  4   3   1 67.114.50.1     Irvine              dist3-vlan50.irvnca.sbcglobal.net
  5   4   1 151.164.43.141  Irvine              bb1-g4-0.irvnca.sbcglobal.net
  6   4   1 151.164.40.161  Waterbury           ex1-p2-0.eqlaca.sbcglobal.net
  7   5   2 4.68.110.113    Los Angeles         te-3-4.car3.losangeles1.level3.net
  8   5   2 4.68.20.190     Los Angeles         vlan89.csw3.losangeles1.level3.net
  9   5   2 4.69.137.41     Los Angeles         ae-83-83.ebr3.losangeles1.level3.net
 10   5   2 4.69.132.9      San Jose            ae-2.ebr3.sanjose1.level3.net
 11   5   2 4.69.134.230    San Jose            ae-73-73.csw2.sanjose1.level3.net
 12   5   2 4.69.134.213    San Jose            ae-72-72.ebr2.sanjose1.level3.net
 13   5   2 4.69.132.58     Denver              ae-3.ebr1.denver1.level3.net
 14   5   2 4.69.132.38     Denver              ae-1-100.ebr2.denver1.level3.net
 15   5   2 4.69.132.62     Chicago             ae-3.ebr3.chicago1.level3.net
 16   5   2 4.69.134.61     Chicago             ae-78.ebr2.chicago1.level3.net
 17   5   2 4.68.101.98     Chicago             ae-21-54.car1.chicago1.level3.net
 18   5   2 4.79.208.66     Chicago             cwie-llc.car1.chicago1.level3.net
 19   6   - 8.7.209.10      Unknown            
 20   7   3 208.75.148.102  Chicago             www.wiredtree.com

Packet Data
Node High Low  Avg  Tot  Lost
  1    0    0    0    1    0
  2    4    4    4    1    0
  3   15   15   15    1    0
  4   18   18   18    1    0
  5   17   17   17    1    0
  6   16   16   16    1    0
  7   17   17   17    1    0
  8   19   19   19    1    0
  9   28   28   28    1    0
 10   37   37   37    1    0
 11   36   36   36    1    0
 12   31   31   31    1    0
 13   65   65   65    1    0
 14   70   70   70    1    0
 15   83   83   83    1    0
 16   77   77   77    1    0
 17   76   76   76    1    0
 18   79   79   79    1    0
 19   80   80   80    1    0
 20   79   79   79    1    0
_____
NeoTrace Copyright ©1997-2001 NeoWorx Inc

Funny how they list node #6 as "Waterbury, Connecticut" (I been there. Not a fun place.) .. with a ping result as 16ms. Uh, 16ms to the East coast .. I don't think so. Must be mis-labeled.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Ghost4me on Feb 18th, 2008 at 1:35pm
Well, not quite as good as my 13ms tin-can line to LP, but feels fine:


Quote:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\John>ping wiredtree.com

Pinging wiredtree.com [208.75.148.102] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 208.75.148.102: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=52
Reply from 208.75.148.102: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=52
Reply from 208.75.148.102: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=52
Reply from 208.75.148.102: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=52

Ping statistics for 208.75.148.102:
   Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
   Minimum = 79ms, Maximum = 83ms, Average = 80ms

C:\Users\John>tracert www.wiredtree.com

Tracing route to www.wiredtree.com [208.75.148.102]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ...
 2    20 ms     7 ms     *     ... oc.oc.cox.net
 3     9 ms     8 ms     *     ip68-4-14-9.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.14.9]
 4    11 ms    10 ms     *     ip68-4-14-53.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.14.53]
 5    18 ms    15 ms     *     ip68-4-14-89.oc.oc.cox.net [68.4.14.89]
 6    11 ms     8 ms     *     rsmtdsrj01-ge600.0.rd.oc.cox.net [68.4.14.253]
 7    12 ms    11 ms     *     so-4-0.hsa2.Tustin1.Level3.net [65.59.168.1]
 8    11 ms    12 ms     *     so-0-1-0.mp2.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.68.114.17]
 9    79 ms    79 ms    79 ms  as-2-0.bbr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [64.159.4.225]
10    81 ms    80 ms    80 ms  ae-21-56.car1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.162]
11    80 ms    79 ms    80 ms  CWIE-LLC.car1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.79.208.66]
12    91 ms    82 ms    81 ms  8.7.209.10
13    80 ms    82 ms    81 ms  www.wiredtree.com [208.75.148.102]

Trace complete.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 18th, 2008 at 1:39pm
Hmmm. Only 13 hops for you. 20 for me.

Folks around the rest of the country should like the closer server, being centrally located.

Back-up complete. Downloading now.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Ghost4me on Feb 18th, 2008 at 2:02pm

Rad wrote on Feb 18th, 2008 at 1:39pm:
Hmmm. Only 13 hops for you. 20 for me.
Folks around the rest of the country should like the closer server, being centrally located.
Back-up complete. Downloading now.

I think the oc.cox... tracert id stands for orange county, so the routing should be similar.

Personally I don't think the problems before with LP were network related, but were/are server related (just my guess).

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 18th, 2008 at 2:20pm
I placed the order. Waiting for verification phone call.


Quote:
Your order has been successfully submitted. Thank you for your business!

Virtual Private Server 256

Support Services
Fully Managed
24x7 Phone and Helpdesk
24x7 Proactive Monitoring
Proactive Updates
ServerShield Hardening

Even found a coupon online (Google rocks) for 128 MB free RAM upgrade + 10% off: FREERAM+10PERCENTOFF ($44/month)

http://www.retailmenot.com/view/wiredtree.com


Quote:
You will receive soon a verification call from one of our reps to confirm your order.

Once your account has passed fraud checking, it will be placed in our setup queue. Most VPS accounts are provisioned within a few hours.

Soon as your account has been provisioned, we will send you a welcoming email. The email will contain your server address and login information as well as login information for your client portal. Please read this welcoming material carefully.


Here we go.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by NightOwl on Feb 18th, 2008 at 2:40pm
Rad

*Change is good, change is good, change is good......!

Hope all goes well--and see you on the *other side*!

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 18th, 2008 at 2:44pm
Well *this* change should be good (growth).

Email from WiredTree:


Quote:
The 128 RAM upgrade is an internal upgrade which isn't reflected on the invoice. It will in fact be applied to your account once we get it setup. On a side note we need to call you to verify your order. Is now a good time to do so?

I feel like I did good. Lots of research. Good deal. Everything I wanted (plus an extra 128MB RAM).

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 18th, 2008 at 3:05pm
Okay, they called to confirm the order. Said current que time is "1-2 hours." I'm all ready to change the domain name servers soon as I get their welcoming email .. already logged into my registrar's site. Currently making another back-up of the site.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by MrMagoo on Feb 18th, 2008 at 3:09pm

Rad wrote on Feb 18th, 2008 at 12:36pm:
Funny how they list node #6 as "Waterbury, Connecticut" (I been there. Not a fun place.) .. with a ping result as 16ms. Uh, 16ms to the East coast .. I don't think so. Must be mis-labeled.

The hop called Waterbury is between Irvin and Los Angles, so I think that this particular Waterbury is in CA, not the East Coast.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 18th, 2008 at 3:13pm
The line on the map-view traces out the Connecticut. Looks weird. More email:


Quote:
It was a pleasure speaking with you over the phone. I just got word from our Datacenter techs that we are getting a brand new hardware node online this evening for new accounts.  This might delay your setup by a few hours.  Just a heads up.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by NightOwl on Feb 18th, 2008 at 3:32pm
Rad

Well, didn't take too long this time--Radified has overwhelmed your new ISP and forced them to add capacity already!!!!  Hmmmm....great start to a *long*, friendly working relationship   ;)  !!!

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 18th, 2008 at 4:13pm
Thanks for making me laugh. I needed that. Here's an answer to my question:


Quote:
Hardware node is the term we use for the parent server that hosts all of the VPS plans.  The specs are detailed out on our website under the VPS section.  Its been stress testing on the rack since last Wednesday to burn in the hardware.  So far after 5 days of getting the crap beat out of it by our stress testing apps we figure its stable enough for customers.  =)

Being first on a new node should help with responsiveness, I would guess.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 18th, 2008 at 8:15pm
Quick note to say it's 6:15 here and I still haven't heard anything from them.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 18th, 2008 at 10:51pm
9PM here on the Left coast. I have account log-in info.

As they say in the 'hood, "We up outta here."

VPS here we come.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 19th, 2008 at 8:46am
It got to be midnight last night and my eyeballs fellout from reading all the "New account set-up" PDFs they sent me .. so I feel asleep. Back at it now. Here's interesting email I received:


Quote:
We upgraded to CentOS 5 today.

The first problem I had was that the password I created for the account was "not secure enough". So the software would not create a default cPanel account for me in WHM (web host manager).

The first thing they have you do upon account log-in is to create a new password. A slider/bar turns from red to yellow to green as you add letters, capital letter, numbers and special charaters such as #$%@!

In the Welcoming email, I was surprised to see this paragraph .. listed under heading "Informational Emails from your Server"


Quote:
If you receive an email about a "Brute Force Warning" it means that the security systems in place on your server have detected someone trying to brute force, or guess, logins and passwords of users on your server. This happens quite frequently and isn't anything to be overly concerned about. There are many internet worms and hijacked 'zombie' computers on the Internet which do automated scans and brute force attempts all of the time. The email is letting you know that the system has detected such an event and firewalled off the attacking computer.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by NightOwl on Feb 19th, 2008 at 9:19am
Rad

Just an observation....over the years I have seen an uptick in *strangeness* and *weird* events (people create *events*) with the full moon cycle!!!!  When you read the studies--science says *no relationship*, but....

And, I've always said that maybe it's just me--I'm the only one effected by the moon, and I'm the one creating the *weirdness* in my head, while everyone else is acting *normal*  ;) !  But, seems like I see a lot more *bad* driving habits just before a full moon--don't know if I'm just noticing more--or not!

Well, I'm sure you're not effected by the *moon*--but, your last upgrade to the forum was just before a *full moon*--and we temporarily lost half the forum!!!!

Tomorrow is another *full moon*--watch your backside  :D !!!!

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 19th, 2008 at 10:31am
Thanks. Hadn't noticed the lunar cycles. Very perceptive of you. I *do* get energetic with the full moons, so I'm not surprised that these upgrades coincide.

I feel good about the move. Taking it slow. Reading everything carefully. No hurry, since the Lunarpages server is going nowhere. WT sppt is holding my hand, answering my emails (questions) within minutes. Impressive support. He even has a sense of humor. I'm creating another site back-up now.

But maybe I should go get some coffee first. [smiley=smiley.gif]

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 20th, 2008 at 12:13am
Uh, here we are. Move complete. Think I fixed all the problems. (A few of the subdomains weren't working.)

But all the databases, email accounts, and most of the subdomains transferred over from the old site .. no problem. I thought I would have to reconfigure everything by hand at the new site .. but no, it all worke fine. Pretty cool.

Any problems?

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by NightOwl on Feb 20th, 2008 at 1:02am
Rad

Congrats on the upgrade!

Lost at least one new member from this morning--BLong I think.

Lost his thread and several response posts + lost a post from Brian in response to one of my posts.

But, website response seems to be very good compared to Lunarpages.  

Speaking of which--need to remove them from your *fader* announcements in top left corner, and correct the *downtown LA* location--and the Lunarpages at the bottom of the forum pages!

Looks like not everyone is being directed to the new server yet--suspect some are still chatting away at the old site!!!  They'll probably show up by tomorrow!

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 20th, 2008 at 1:19am
Okay, I changed the news fader.

Tired. I get the bug early tomorrow morn, so I wanted to get this done by tonight. I'll take care of the rest after I'm done having the bug.

While reviewing things today, I noticed your nightowl email acct contains ~ 1 MB in it. Do you not use it?

If you are getting too much spam, we can change it to NightOwl2, or something like that. That's what I do when I start getting lots of spam at a particular addy.

1 MB is not a problem (we have 30 gigs), just asking.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 20th, 2008 at 2:20am
Just received this at midnight (from Lunarpages):


Quote:
After reviewing your account, it seems that your account usage is reduced but still not acceptable so we are not able to move your account back to the production server. We have to monitor your account for another 24 hours. Your account is still using high memory resources. If your account resources usage is acceptable then we will move your account back to our production server. Here is your resource usage for today:

radified.com

CPU usage: 3.56
Memory usage: 1.34
MySQL usage: 0.0

Top Process %CPU 150 /usr/bin/perl -- YaBB.pl
Top Process %CPU 90.0 /usr/bin/perl -- YaBB.pl
Top Process %CPU 81.0 /usr/bin/perl -- YaBB.pl

Please, upgrade all your addon(s) and audit all your scripts. If you require a higher usage then allowed on shared servers you might want to try a dedicated plan.

Details on dedicated plans can be found here: http://www.lpdedicated.com/

I hope this information is helpful. We are committed to making your hosting experiences pleasant and fulfilling.

It will be funny if they continue to send me emails claiming the site is using excessive resources .. when no one is using the site at their server any longer.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Sunday_Afternoon on Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:16am

Rad wrote on Feb 20th, 2008 at 2:20am:
It will be funny if they continue to send me emails claiming the site is using excessive resources .. when no one is using the site at their server any longer.

Indeed - any idea on the load numbers on the new host?

Sun pm

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by MrMagoo on Feb 20th, 2008 at 1:21pm
Should be easy to get.  From the command line:

'top' will show you processor utilization and the most active processes
'ps aux' will show you a list of all the processes and their memory and processor usage at that instant
'uptime' will show you the load averages
'free -m' will show you the amount of used/available memory

Some of them may look funny due to it being a virtual server, but you'll get a good idea of the server health.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 20th, 2008 at 3:03pm
At new host. I can get these myself .. via WHM (WebHost Manager):


Quote:
radified.com 0.67 (%CPU) 13.41 (% Memory) 0.0 (MySQL)

Note: These figures are averages since 0000 hours today.
Note: This script will not able to track cgi cpu/memory usage if you do not have suexec installed.
Note: Percentages are based on one cpu. If you have 2 cpus divide the number in half to get the percentage of all cpu power used

The server is dual-CPU, far as I can tell.  "Intel Dual Xeon Clovertown (8 CPUS)" I have been assigned (they tell me) 384-MB RAM.

http://www.wiredtree.com/managedvps/


Quote:
Top Process %CPU 32.0 (YaBB.pl)  
Top Process %CPU 15.0 (YaBB.pl)
Top Process %CPU 10.0 (YaBB.pl)

What do you think?

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by LoTGoD on Feb 20th, 2008 at 3:29pm
Rad,
Site access from Ohio is *MUCH* faster than before!  Just wanted to thank you for the quicker access!  

Looks like you got things under control...

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad.Test on Feb 20th, 2008 at 7:32pm
Thanks for the note. I was wondering if folks around the country could notice a difference.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Brian on Feb 20th, 2008 at 7:55pm
Faster here too.

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Ghost4me on Feb 20th, 2008 at 8:58pm
From Southern California, it is as fast as before, and more importantly, it is *consistently* fast.  I haven't seen any pauses, as I used to with LP.


Quote:
C:\Users\John>ping radified.com

Pinging radified.com [208.79.239.88] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 208.79.239.88: bytes=32 time=66ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.79.239.88: bytes=32 time=66ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.79.239.88: bytes=32 time=66ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.79.239.88: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 208.79.239.88:
   Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
   Minimum = 64ms, Maximum = 66ms, Average = 65ms


Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by El_Pescador on Feb 20th, 2008 at 9:01pm
Site access from Bayou Country is *NOTICEABLY* faster than before - albeit not *RADICALLY* faster.

El Pescador

Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Sunday_Afternoon on Feb 20th, 2008 at 10:59pm
And from Silicon Valley:


Quote:
Pinging radified.com [208.79.239.88] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 208.79.239.88: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.79.239.88: bytes=32 time=58ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.79.239.88: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.79.239.88: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 208.79.239.88:
   Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
   Minimum = 57ms, Maximum = 60ms, Average = 58ms


Title: Re: Heads up - Preparing to move the site
Post by Rad on Feb 21st, 2008 at 4:19pm
Received from LP today:


Quote:
Thanks for your cooperation. After reviewing your account it seems that your account usage is ok. We will again check your usage after 24 hours if usage is ok then we will move your account back to the production server. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask us, we will be happy to answer them. We are committed to making your hosting experiences pleasant and fulfilling.

So now that nobody is going there, our usage is finally okay again.

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