After browsing boards and google on how to use Ghost 2003 with SATA drives I realized you have to have the .793 build.  If you have the .775 or .778 etc builds you HAVE to upgrade in order to be able to use SATA drives with the -FNI switch.  

Most everyone was under the impression that this patch was 'discontinued' by symantec or no longer available as running liveupdate tells you you are all up to date if you have the .775 or .778 build.

After doing some digging I realized that the patch WAS available if you followed symantec's instructions to access their ARCHIVED Liveupdate server!

Here's Symantec's instructions on how to do this, follow them exactly and you should get the update.  Just make sure all of your ghost services are killed in task manager before the update or it won't take hold and you'll have to run it again.

http://service1.symantec.com/Support/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2007010219171513

Enjoy! Hope this helps, woulda saved me hours if it had previously been posted somewhere.

Very nice. Thanks. I will sticky it for a while .. until we become familair with it.

It wasn't in the same context but I did post a reply in Latest version of Ghost 2003 downloadable from Symantec on Feb 1, 08 with information about the "archive server". Maybe a permanent sticky with that information would be a good thing? No other context than "Reinstalling Ghost 2003 - how to get it up to date!"

Christer

[edit]Rad edit: I copied-n-pasted your post here .. for now.[/edit]

I installed Ghost 2003 a few months ago. I didn't get any updates at all until I added a Hosts-file, giving me a choice of updating from Symantec-Archive. After adding the Hosts-file, it was updated to 793. It took two sessions, first to 789, then to 793.

Have a look at How to obtain the programs updates that are archived on Symantec LiveUpdate server. I think the procedure is complicated. If the installed LiveUpdate version is fairly recent (3.something) you only need to download the Hosts-file and put it in the LiveUpdate folder (C:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate).

The next time you start LiveUpdate, you have a drop down menu with the choices Symantec-Live and Symantec-Archive. Choose Symantec-Archive but when done, don't forget to set it back to Symantec-Live.

A friend of mine is building me a new system with a Micro ATX/Flex motherboard. It will have a sata hard drive. While I have been a user of Ghost since the 90's I make no boast of my prowess. Now using Ghost 2003. I love the program and this forum is the mother-load of helps.  I read (above) the necessity of having build .793 for sata drives. For a test run on my old system I followed some of the intructions herein for upgrading to build .793 (have never upgraded in the past). Will have to duplicate the procedure with the new system. How does one locate the build # ... or know for sure he is there. Usually help/about gives some indication but have been unable to locate anything. Some directions would be deeply appreciated

Jer (the masculine half of jerliz)

See the bottom of this page:

http://ghost.radified.com/ghost_1a.htm

Hi Guys (includes Gals),

I've been using Ghost for years, since well before 2003 but lay claim to no real expertise.  I just use it becasue I hate getting bogged down in the heavy techno whirlpool of what would otherwise consume me - as if it hasn't already.  PCs should be an 'appliance of sorts' that serve "us" -  not us serving 'IT'.  

That's why I love Ghost... well, at least until I tried to clone from disk to disk one time.  Friggin' careless ambiguous propellor-head 'phrases' bereft of thoughtful logic in anybody's language.  I'll stop now...

I've got a new SATA and mobo combo, and need to get a Ghost PC-DOS diskette happening.  Do I have install Ghost onto my hard drive, update to the latest version, then create the diskette from the updated installation?  Is that the go?

Regards, Ranger   ::)

P.S. It's Friday arvo.  I'll be back in 48 hrs.  Ciao for now  8-)

After several tries I finally was able to bring my 2003 version of ghost up to the .793 specs with the help of this forum. In Googling sata backups I have read all kind of horror stories of people trying to ghost sata drives permanently locking their system up with irreversable consequences. My new system will shortly arrive with at least one sata (boot or system) drive.

It has always been my custom to ghost a new setup after every two or three software installations. If I run into trouble that way I can go back (similar to system restore) to a previous install and start over from there. Since the early 90's I have produced scores (if not hundreds) of images of my hard drive. I cannot think of any major problem I had with any of these "disk to image" efforts. Is there any thing I need to be aware of before starting a backup of my new system? I used Night Owl's formula for creating a boot disk and put it on one of my thumb drives. It is lighting fast and has never failed. Do I need to change any of my settings or re-set any special parameters or switches on the thumb drive before attempting a back up of the sata drive. After updating ghost 2003 to the .973 specs, I coped the ghost.exe file from the hard drive to the thumb drive so as to be booting ghost on the thumb drive with the .exe file with the update. Hopefully this was the correct thing to do.  Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated HELP!
JERRY  (JERLIZ) LIZ'S BETTER HALF

Thanks edarnell; Rad; Christer and Jer (... jerliz).

Hi Jerry,

Not unlike you your method, I have multiple partitions with clones of each progressive build so hopefully you don't have to go right back to the start if something goes wrong.

Re "How to obtain program updates that are archived on Symantec LiveUpdate server." at http://service1.symantec.com/Support/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2007010219171513.  Be careful with the instructions you find at this link.  The 'symantics' for me didn't line up.  The upgraded program is probably fine, but "how to get there"... the words on my screen, during the actual process, were out of step with the printed version at Step 4, Point 2.  I've tried it three times - something is not written in these instructions that should be.

Running off a DOS boot diskette, I have always found the 'partition to partition' cloning process reliable, quick and simple, even with my SATA 320GB hard drive (Seagate ST3320620AS, 7200.10).  Whether partition to partition within the same drive or between a pair of these drives, both my 320GB SATA drives have always worked fine with this version of Ghost 2003.  The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-IPE1000Pro2 with a socket 478 P4 CPU.  

Therefore, I don't think Ghost 2003 (v.775) has a compatibility issue soley with SATA drives so much as something else in combination perhaps.  However, I do seem to have a problem with this version and the combination of a new Gigabute GA-EX38-DQ6 with a socket 775 Q6600 CPU and a 500GB (Seagate ST3500320AS, 7200.11) SATA HDD.  

I discovered this after I'd loaded and customised WinXP SP2b and the mobo driver.  When I rebooted the system with my trusty v.775 DOS diskette, it locked up at the first Ghost screen.  All I got was a title page and a frozen egg timer.

"Try installing Ghost 2003 to the hard disk and run it from here" he thinks. So I dug out my Norton System Works Pro Edition CD-ROM and after running it up on my P4 system first, repeated the same with the Q6600 one.

Until yesterday, I had never seen or run Ghost 2003 from the hard drive only a PC-DOS diskette.  OK... so it's just like the DOS diskette method with better preliminary instructions. With the P4 systems, no problems, I managed to clone partition to partition - easy.  

No so however with the Q6600 system.   After installing the program, everything seemed to be going fine.  While in Windows, I set things up for Ghost to clone P1 to P10, however after I executed and the system restarted, it only got to display the first screen with a title and frozen egg-timer.  The new system had locked up.

When I manually shut down and rebooted, I found i was locked into a loop.  The on screen display had the following text mesages.

"Verifying DMI Pool Data
Boot from CD/ DVD
Starting PC-DOS

PC-DOS 7.1 Startup Menu
1) Run Norton Ghost DOS Operation
2) Retun to Windows without running Norton ghost.  
Enter a choice. [1]"

Microsoft mouse .... (driver specs) continued with...,

"The previous operation has failed.  Please enter the number of the action you wish to take:  

1) Exit to DOS
2) Return to Windows
3) Retry the operation.  

If no action is selected the computer will return to DOS within X seconds."

But it didn't and just frooze at this point.
Even if I chose the option to reboot to Windows by typing "ghreboot" and hitting enter (as instructed) it was still dead.  When scrolled down a new message appeared,

"Internal stack overflow.  
System halted."  

That's the main reason I didn't want to install Ghost to my hard disk, preferring instead to use an updated boot disk.  

Anyway, I ended up having to re-install Win XP from scratch, but there's no point doing anymore until I can find an effective way of upgrading the Ghost boot disk to v.793.

I'm determined to get this right and then document it.. in full.

Ranger

What procedure did you use to update to 793?

Ranger was unable to accomplish:

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208479601/6#6

Oops, he beat me to it. Must have the faster fingers.

Ranger
Just the kind of horror stories (yours) I was talking about  in my post. In upgrading my version of ghost I followed directions here in the forum which pointed me to  ... http://service1.symantec.com/Support/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2007010219171513

As other have commented the directions are not "user friendly" and I had to go thru the procedure twice before I could say "bingo."
Sorry to hear about your frustrations. It's the time you eat up with trial and error ... and then the total disaster at the end of the tunnel. That's what I want to avoid up front. Hopefully someone here will be able to jump in and provide some help

I should get my new system next week sometime, and so am stymied for now. I don't want to install my array of software without being able to make incrimental backups with ghost as I go along

Jerry (aka jerliz)

Precisely Jerry.  My new system awaits the same solution.

I have installed a licensed version of Ghost 2003 (v.775) from off my Norton System Works Pro Edition CD.  I created another bootable diskette (after thinking I upgraded)... but it’s still only  a version "775".  

The problem with this version of Ghost 2003, according to some, is that it doesn’t work with SATA drives.  This is not true as I’ve been running it routinely on a P4 WinXPSP2 system with two 320GB SATA drives for years - without a glitch; except for when I cloned an entire drive as the target when it should have been the source.  It got really sauced!  Like I should have after 'the incident'.  Ouch!

Anyway, despite big Ouch, I built and maintained my system using ‘partition to partition’ clones - and mostly to and from the same SATA drive.  I have multiple partitions, ten in all, each sufficient to hold the next increment/ iteration of my progressive Win XP build.  Ghost 2003v775 works fine with the P4 with SATAs, but not on my new Q6600 w GA-EX38-DQ6 w a 500GB Seagate.

I usually install the basic WinXP SP2 OS on partition (P) 1 and then I clone it to P10.  (Clone, not backup.)  Next, I install the mobo drivers and clone (this iteration of) P1 to P9, and so on, right through to a 20GB P4 which is the final clone of an identical 20GB P1.

My data is on the D: drive P2. P3 is a clone of P2.  At 1500MB/ minute it doesn’t take that long.  

With respect, if someone is patient enough, does anyone have a step-by-step break down of the upgrade process from Ghost 2003.v775  to v.793?

I've read the link on "How to obtain the program updates that are archived on Symantec LiveUpdate server."

When I read Step 4, Point 1. "Run a tool to start LiveUpdate" I take it this mean "Open a program containing "LiveUpdate" and run it" - right?  Step 4 Point 2. "Under Use location profile, on the drop-down menu, click SYMANTEC-ARCHIVE.  

Problem is, when I start LiveUpdate, following on from point 1., I get "Welcome to LiveUpdate..." which starts listing the Symantec products installed on my system. I don't get to see "Step 4, Point 2."

My only option following on from point 1. seems to be to click on the LiveUpdate button, under heading "Norton Ghost 2003" at the top left hand corner of popup window.

Step 4 Point 3 ... etc.

Show I get to Finish Step 4 LiveUpdate but where is Point 2 of both Step 4 and Step 5?  Can someone point out what I'm missing please?

I'd like to be able to make a bootable DOS CD of Ghost 2003.793, having just returned from wall after driving my hair back into its follicles.  

Ranger

P.S. I am mildly dyslexic - sometimes it can take hours for me to write, correct and re-re-edit a post like this.  

Building a new system. It has always been my custom to ghost a new setup after every two or three software installations. If I run into trouble that way I can go back (similar to system restore) to a previous install and start over from there.

My new system has arrived and has a 250 gig sata western digital model wd2500ks-oomjbo

Many bad news stories of trying to ghost sata drives. I asked earlier but never did get an answer .... Is there any thing I need to be aware of before starting a backup of my new system?

I used Night Owl's formula for creating a boot disk and put it on one of my thumb drives. It works very well with my IDE drives

For Sata do I need to change any of my settings or re-set any special parameters or switches on the thumb drive before attempting a back up of the sata drive. I have updated ghost 2003 to the .973 specs, I coped the upgraded ghost.exe file from the hard drive to the thumb drive so as to be booting ghost on the thumb drive with the .exe file with the update.

Hopefully this was the correct thing to do.  Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I really need help now as I want to start with installing my Windows XP on the new WD Sata drive

PLEASE HELP!
Jerry

Jer wrote on Apr 24^th, 2008 at 9:55pm:

Building a new system.

I'd like to hear a little about your new system. Specs.


Jer wrote on Apr 24^th, 2008 at 9:55pm:

Is there any thing I need to be aware of before starting a backup of my new system?

You'll know soon enough if you have problems. If so, you can always upgrade to the lastest/greater version » Ghost 14, which has no known issues with SATA.


Jer wrote on Apr 24^th, 2008 at 9:55pm:

For Sata do I need to change any of my settings or re-set any special parameters or switches on the thumb drive before attempting a back up of the sata drive.

Not that I know of. Booting from a thumb-drive is cool.

Do you have, or have you seen this?

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208897629

I've upgraded my Norton Ghost 2003 to build=793 but when I try to back up my seagate 250gb sata drive that has around 16gb of data on it the backup ends at 75% at  of the way through everytime and then says backup completed successfully. (with or without the -fni switch)
Same problem whether using an internal dvd or an external usb drive.

(winxp sp2)

PI
My project has been temp put on hold. They sent a mis-matched mother board and processor. I observe with great interest what you have noted about your failed effort to back up the seagate sata. Mine will be a WD sata drive. I hope I have better success. Rad suggested the possibility of having to upgrade to the new Ghost 14. We will soon see. I hate the thought of upgrading since I have had such success with the 2003 version. I have two versions of Acronis that I may have to try if ghost won't do it. I wish I could be of help but, this is my 1st experience with a SATA drive.
Jerry
Jerry

The only reason I saw to upgrade my Ghost 2003 to build 793 was because of the newer motherboards.  SATA had nothing to do with it.

Older versions of Ghost would not work with the newer 939 or AM2 motherboards.  Ghost 775 couldn't see the drives, on either of those mobo's.

EDIT:

Running Ghost 2003, build 793 on my new MSI mobo, is a real treat!
Every drive on the system, including all the USB drives and camera card slots are presented to Ghost.  I could even do a Ghost backup to a camera card if it were big enough to hold the .GHO file. ;)
I have to run NO special USB drivers and use NO special switches.
The only driver I load is Mouse.com, so I can run Ghost with my PS2 mouse.  That beats the heck out of using just the keyboard. ::)

The only upgrade I've seen for Ghost 2003 is Ghost 8.3.  
Both versions work equally well on my system.
The big difference is that Ghost 8.3 is too big to fit on a floppy disk along with all my batch files and utilities.
NO Problem, I run it from a bootable flash drive. ;) :)

Running Ghost from a bootable media is still the best way to run Ghost.
(IMHO)


Cheers Mates!
The Shadow  8-)

Shadow
Thanks for the insight. My system is still not ready and so I am continuing to read... and read ... and read. I guess I will just wait until the build is finished and try my 2003 version. I agree that booting to DOS and running Ghost from there is the way to go. If I can't get it to work I will have to try some other alternative. I know very little about Ghost 14. Haven't been able to find if it will boot to DOS or if it has to run in the Windows environment. I may post that question later tonight or tomorrow.
Thanks again
Jerry

Rad wrote:
(quote) ". Booting from a thumb-drive is cool.

I agree with the comment that booting from a thumb drive is cool. The question I have about ver 14 is can it be booted from a thumb drive into DOS and run from there.
Jerry

Jerry,

The Ghost 14 Recovery Environment is Vista PE based. Very nice.

Brian:
I am so stuck on 2003 I haven't looked or read anything about the newer versions. I'm assuming it (14) will run either in XP or Ghost ???? Thanks for any input
Jerry

Jerry,

Stick with Ghost 2003 if it works for you.

Ghost 14 works in WinXP and Vista. It creates "hot images" while Windows is running. I like this. You probably wouldn't. There is no DOS with Ghost 14.

Thanks Brian
Yes, I'll stick with 2003 as long as it will do the job. I had forgotten there is a drive size limit to what G-2003 will handle. So will have to partition the 250 gig drive when it gets here along with the other build material

Jerry

Quote:

I had forgotten there is a drive size limit to what G-2003 will handle.

I built a computer (Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe + AMD Athlon64 X2 Dual-Core 5600+ + 500 GB Hitachi T7K500 SATA) for a friends son and Ghost 2003 created an image to a second hard disk with no problems, no need for any switches whatsoever (well, I use "-split=650" and "-auto" to be able to burn to CDs).

Christer

Thinking ahead ... if I have any problems getting Ghost 2003 to work with my new system, was wondering about Acronis. I have versions 7 and 9. Does anyone know whether or not Acronis boots to a DOS invironment like Ghost does and make an image. I know you can make a recovery disk and boot it to DOS to reinstall an image, but don't know if it will boot to DOS in order to create an image???  Can any one help out with an answer here.
Jerry

Jerry,

Acronis TI has a two mode Recovery CD. Either Linux or DOS.

TI can create images from either recovery mode.

Hello,

I'm Alex, newbee here and have a mayor problem/question.

I make every month a backup from my computer on an external usb drive. Last week my computer harddisk crashed and i buyed a new disk and want to restore the image only my ghost floppydisk failed (defective floppydisk).

No problem i thought, just install ghost 2003 on my second system and make a new disk, but when i restore the image now i get the error 25002 during the restore.

I googled something and found out that i must update my ghost from build 775 to 793, i followed the discription from symantec and can't get it done (i miss the option to update from symantec archived).

I'm desperate now, can anyone help me with the update file??


Thnx

Hi,

Just joined while trying to solve my problem and thought I'd post my findings in case it saves someone some time.

There are a couple of 'errors' in the Symantec instructions for updating - IMO.

Step 3.1 should say "Right-click the Settings.Hosts.LiveUpdate ICON ABOVE and click Save Target As..."

Step 4 should have a 4.6 which would say "Repeat Step 4 until you are told you have the latest etc etc."

The go onto Step 5 which should also have a 5.6 the same as 4.6.

Eventually you get to .793 (think that's the one - the latest anyway).

Might save someone pulling out more hair than is really necessary!!!

TheShadow wrote on Apr 27^th, 2008 at 7:25am:

The only reason I saw to upgrade my Ghost 2003 to build 793 was because of the newer motherboards.  SATA had nothing to do with it. Older versions of Ghost would not work with the newer 939 or AM2 motherboards.  Ghost 775 couldn't see the drives, on either of those mobo's. Getting Ghost 2003 build 793 for me was a whole lot easier than dealing with Symantec and playing their games..... I got it from a friend. It involved an entire new copy of Ghost.exe, not just a patch or fix. Running Ghost 2003, build 793 on my new MSI mobo, is a real treat! Every drive on the system, including all the USB drives and camera card slots are presented to Ghost.  I could even do a Ghost backup to a camera card if it were big enough to hold the .GHO file. ;) I have to run NO special USB drivers and use NO special switches. The only driver I load is Mouse.com, so I can run Ghost with my PS2 mouse.  That beats the heck out of using just the keyboard. ::) The only upgrade I've seen for Ghost 2003 is Ghost 8.3.   Both versions work equally well on my system. The big difference is that Ghost 8.3 is too big to fit on a floppy disk along with all my batch files and utilities. NO Problem, I run it from a bootable flash drive. ;) :) Running Ghost from a bootable media is still the best way to run Ghost. (IMHO) Cheers Mates! The Shadow  8-)

hmm didnt know that :)

I'm totally perplexed, as I was backing up my SATA HD for some time before I got the 793 update.  I had to have it NOT for SATA, but for the new AMD 939 and AM2 motherboards.  Ghost just could not find the drives on those boards and would hang trying.  The upgrade to build 793 solved that problem.  I'm still backing up all sizes of SATA1 and SATA2 drives, by all manufacturers with equal success.  Seagate, Maxtor, WD.....all the same.
And, using NO special switches or Gizmo's.

I credit a lot of my own success to this really great MSI motherboard.
(MSI, K9N Platinum)

I experiment a lot with my Ghost 2003.  I currently have it booting from a floppy disk, CD, flash drive and even a SD Memory Card (the same as I use in my Kodak camera).

The only drawback I've personally found is that unless it boots from A:, it won't put itself on a DVD, thus making it bootable.  No biggie!

Cheers Mates!
The Shadow  8-)

Jerry wrote:
Since upgrading my 2003 version to the most recent build, I boot with a thumb drive with no problems on my new system ... below.

I use two Sata HD's ...  One is the boot drive and the other to copy the image to

2.67 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache

Board: ECS P55G 1.0
Bus Clock: 333 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 080015 11/27/2007
1792 Megabytes Installed Memory

First of all, I thank all the Radified and its community for all the help they have provided in the past present and future.  I recently did a fresh install of Ghost 2003.  I quickly found that Symantec’s instructions for using live-update Archive were out of date.

(How to obtain the programs updates that are archived on Symantec LiveUpdate server url: service1.symantec.com/Support/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2007010219171513)

LiveUpdate Version: 3.4.1.234  (downloaded and installed on May 28, 2008)

Here is what the problem was and the work around I used:

In Step 4, after I had replaced the existing “Settings.Hosts.LiveUpdate” host file with the downloadable one from Symantec, I ran the live update but there was no location profile dropdown menu available.

Solution:
After testing and tweaking the “Settings.Hosts.LiveUpdate” file and reading the readme.txt file of LiveUpdate 3.4.1.234, I found that the host file in the program directory “C:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Settings.Hosts.LiveUpdate” is not used at all anymore.  According the readme.txt the settings host file is now stored different locations depending on your operating system.

I’m using WinXp pro, so the new host file location is “C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate” and the new host file name is “Settings.LiveUpdate”.

I opened up the new “Settings.LiveUpdate” file in notepad to find that there were tons of new parameters in addition to host profile information.  I then opened the downloaded “Settings.Default.LiveUpdate” (the one from Symantec with the archive server information) in another notepad and copied and replaced the host information in the “Settings.LiveUpdate”.  Then I ran live update, and this time the location profile dropdown menu was available and the update worked.

As mentioned in a previous post, I had to update twice in order to get build .793.

I hope that helps,

Gotenks3
:D
:D

Hi,
I'm trying to update my german ghost 2003 789 to 793 according to the info in this thread and get an error LU1825. The download of update 2 succeds (LU tells 3.7MB), but installation does not work. The message is like that:
LU1825: Dieses Update ist fehlgeschlagen, da es versucht hat, eine Anwendung auszuführen, die nicht existiert. Die Anwendungsdatei sollte Teil des heruntergeladenen Updates sein.
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:
This update has failed because it tried to execute an application which does not exist. This application should be part of the downloaded update.
I found a similar thread from 2007, but according to this, the problem should have been solved on the update-server???
link: radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1176499646/7

The downloaded file 1165278149jtun_ng2003b789_ge.x86.full.zip
found at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Downloads is only 3.394kB and could not be opened with Winzip 9. Is the problem a damaged file?

Do I have a chance to get this update done, maybe in a manual way?

Regards Robert

Hello Robert,
welcome to RADIFIED ... :) ... !

In the same location, after updating a fresh installation of Ghost 2003, I have the corresponding files but english versions:

1165278149jtun_ng2003b789_en.x86.full.zip
and
1165278149jtun_ng2003b793_en.x86.full.zip

They too can not be opened using the WinXP "zip program". There are quite a few zip archives in that location, some can be opened, others can not.

Maybe Nigel can shed some light on this?

/Christer

By the way, I have downloaded corresponding zip archives from sources other than Symantec and they can be opened. I have only seen the english versions, though. These zip archives only contain the files that have been changed (not "full" installations) and the extracted files should manually be moved to the Ghost programs folder, replacing existing files.

The files are:

1122653960jtun_ng2003b789_en.zip
and
1122653960jtun_ng2003b793_en.zip

Thank you Christer,

but i could't find anywhere the coresponding german .zip file.
It seems that I have to wait that someone fixes the updateserver or send me the right files...

Best regards
Robert

Robert,
nor can I find the english versions anymore. If I recall correctly, they were posted at an american university web page, maybe Princeton.

A google search for either of the files only brings up this thread ... :-X ... !

Christer

Christer wrote on Sep 9^th, 2008 at 3:08am:

Maybe Nigel can shed some light on this?

The LU system is *weird*, to the point where it's something I deliberately want to avoid knowing about - especially because there are three major versions of it, all mutually incompatible.

The odd thing is that it does mostly just use plain zipfiles, but they are all called other things (.trz or .x86 or whatever), whereas that file you're looking at is I think a status thing that isn't really a zipfile at all.

Anyway, there's a good reason you can't download the archives directly from anywhere. They aren't at the Princeton private LU server, and they aren't anywhere on archive.org either, and for good reason - because they are a major source of piracy. Anytime we (or anyone else) puts anything that contains a ghost.exe anywhere on the public internet, it gets massively abused for mass piracy and the Ghost 2003 LiveUpdates were particularly bad for that. It's a major headache for us because we want to get updates to customers out, but we're subject to such an insane amount of piracy (including from the dishonest scum who call it "abandonware" when it's not) that it's not an option.

Anyway, last time the german LU had problems was because they rearranged the layout of the archive server and simply lost that particular file (during the interim I hosted a copy myself on my google pages account). Unfortunately since the LU admins are in the US and we have no access whatsoever to the guts of the LU system, it's really hard for us to get any problems with it fixed.

Anyway, we have copies of everything we've ever released (including the localized versions) so I can do that again while we try and get this sorted out; I'll send a PM to the person who posted with a problem and a URL to the download and a password to use when extracting the files.

Hello Nigel,

I could install the .exe and .dll files of the update with ghostlu.exe.
But what about the two aspi*.sys files? I couldn't find these files on my harddisk.

They are gone because the entire point of build 793 was to remove them; those were components we licensed from Iomega to provide support for FireWire and USB drives, and they turned out to be of completely inadequate quality. Ghost build 793 contains built-in FireWire and USB drivers of much higher quality and supporting a much wider range of USB host adapters to replace them.

Nigel.

my backup via USB2.0 works now. Thank you for your support!

Regards Robert

I tried your advice, went through the symantec procedure, killed the ghost task (after having tried it without killing it per symantec instructions), and still no success.

I keep getting a LU1825 error, and Ghost stays at version 789.

I will open a new post with my problem.

Can someone tell me how to download

1122653960jtun_ng2003b789_en.zip
and
1122653960jtun_ng2003b793_en.zip

I followed Norton's instruction to download the new LiveUpdate, and failed to get update. Google cannot help me to find the files. The links here are broken.

I see that this post mainly refers to SATA HDD's. What about SATA DVD Drives?

Maybe a permanent sticky with that information would be a good thing? No other context than "Reinstalling Ghost 2003 - how to get it up to date!"....