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Title: Re-installing OSs on multiboot environment Post by John on Oct 3rd, 2009 at 9:42am
W2K-Pro refused to boot (after I attempted to change the boot order from the W2K System Recovery) and could not be repaired.
I appear to have no alternative but to re-install W2k which some think to be a good idea anyway -- to get rid of several years' of accumulated operational krap. QUESTION: 1. Can I reformat drive D: (the W2K partition) from the G: (XP Partition) and reinstall W2K on D: -- without having 1. to zap G: (XP), 2. re-install W2k (on D:) and then 3. re-install XP (on G:)? 2. What about W98SE? which is on C: If I reformat that, will it not make the other OSs inaccessible? I had multibooted this machine years ago using as a guide the Radified's recommendation; Have combed the Internet but could not find specific advice regarding re-installation of the first 2 OSs in a triple-boot machine (or even a dual-boot one)! [Note— E: is Data. F: is Audio and there is an H: Misellaneous. E: & H: are full, but F: has some 23GB free]. TIA John |
Title: Re: Re-installing OSs on multiboot environment Post by NightOwl on Oct 3rd, 2009 at 10:59am
@ John
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Do you have backups of your various OS system partitions? Are you using the Microsoft way of multi-booting? If *yes*, then I think given you have Win98SE as well as Y2K and WinXP, then the necessary boot file(s) must be on your C: (Win98SE) partition, and that partition has to be in a FAT file format. Quote:
I think if you are using the Microsoft way of multi-booting, then you have to install the oldest OS first and work you way forward--reason being if you install an older OS after the newer OS, the installation program will not necessarily be aware of the newer OS and may over-right the boot information rather than incorporating it into an updated multi-boot menu. I don't work with multi-booting, so I'm not sure of the details--but, there may be a way to *repair* the multi-boot from the *Recovery Console* available on the WinXP installation CD. Probably *bootcfg* is what's needed. Quote:
As mentioned above, the boot file(s) will be on the C: partition if using the Microsoft way--so, yes a reformat will wipe out the ability to use those boot files. Again, that might be something that can be repaired as mentioned above. Quote:
There are other ways to multi-boot than using the *Microsoft way*--here's an excellent reference to help you understand what's going on: Understanding MultiBooting and Booting Windows from an Extended Partition These Google searches probably have some useful information: repairing multi-booting win98se and winxp and this one: winxp recovery console repair dual booting |
Title: Re: Re-installing OSs on multiboot environment Post by Brian on Oct 3rd, 2009 at 3:21pm
@ John
This might give you some ideas. I haven't used it with Win98 or Win2000 but it certainly works with WinXP and Vista/Win7. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=324 |
Title: Re: Re-installing OSs on multiboot environment Post by John on Oct 4th, 2009 at 10:43am
Thankx Nightowl and Brian.
Yes the multiboot is "Microsoft" way, and after reading the article on "Understanding Multibooting..." I see that the W2K partition is not independent (since it is not derived from an image as described in the article) and so cannot be re-formatted and W2K reinstalled without first removing XP the third and last OS. The boot.ini is of course in C:\W98SE No, the W2K repair console did not work... Well, my data is pretty well backed up, so wiping all and re-doing the multiboot is probably the way to go. Thanks again for the useful links too, which I will go through Regards John |
Title: Re: Re-installing OSs on multiboot environment Post by NightOwl on Oct 4th, 2009 at 12:04pm
@ John
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I was thinking restoring just the boot files from a backup--if the booting was working fine in the past! |
Title: Re: Re-installing OSs on multiboot environment Post by John on Oct 4th, 2009 at 4:06pm
Thanx again Nightowl
Booting was fine but, unfortunately, there is no backup of bootfiles -- which, by the way, do you mean? Boot-ini looks OK, but does not work for W2K. Will have to rectify this when re-installing... John |
Title: Re: Re-installing OSs on multiboot environment Post by NightOwl on Oct 5th, 2009 at 8:39am
@ John
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So......., not using Ghost or some other imaging program to make backups of your OS partitions?!!!! Quote:
Using the WinXP Recovery Console tool lets you add and delete entries in the boot files for the various OSs found by that tool. Quote:
Shouldn't have to *re-install*--should be able to *repair*--you need to use the repair tool of the most recent Windows OS that's been installed--i.e. the WinXP repair tool for the boot files--it will be aware of the older Windows OS and the required structure for the boot files. If you used only the Y2K repair tool--it may not have known the correct information to change in the boot files that should now be based on the more recent WinXP boot file structure. |
Title: Re: Re-installing OSs on multiboot environment Post by John on Oct 6th, 2009 at 10:20am
Thanks Nightowl.
Yes, have not been imaging my drives. Had not observed that one can repair WINNT from XP. Appreciate your pointing this out. I booted from the XP CD and reached the "repair" point and did a FIXBOOT -- to no effect. I also did a SYSTEMROOT to see if that would repair the error that appears when I presently select W2K from the boot menu -- namely that the System32\config\system file was inaccessible -- to no effect. In the system32\config directory I see the following files: system 6656000 06/19/09 SYSTEM ALT 6656000 06/19/09 system.sav 2990080 07/16/2005 system.LOG 10/05/2009 contains the following garbage: regfWg Wg ÀCXeõEÊ €e n2\WINNT\system32\config\system ãî DIRTÿ Any further ideas? TIA John |
Title: Re: Re-installing OSs on multiboot environment Post by NightOwl on Oct 6th, 2009 at 12:05pm
@ John
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Once you reach the *Recovery Console*, I think you might need to use *bootcfg*: Quote:
Read more here: Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console for advanced users |
Title: Re: Re-installing OSs on multiboot environment Post by John on Oct 8th, 2009 at 2:28am
Thank you very much Nightowl
Have followed the link and saved the info re the Recovery Console. |
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