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Message started by Janset on Nov 30th, 2011 at 10:06pm

Title: How can I identify my drives?
Post by Janset on Nov 30th, 2011 at 10:06pm
Hi there.
My OS is Win7 Ultimate, 64 bit.
I use Ghost 115 from a bootable CD that I managed to acquire.

The making of a C drive (partition) backup does not present a problem.

But when it comes to restoring a saved backup, source and destination presents the problem.

My OS drive is partitioned into two partitions. The actual drive is a one terabyte WD black Caviar, exactly the same as my Slave (unpartitioned) drive. This is where my problem lays.

When the DOS Ghost panel comes up and asks me to select the drive from where I want to restore from and where I want to restore to,  I cannot tell which is which as they are both described exactly the same. Both drives show the same size and number identification

Is there anyway that I can overcome this problem so that I can easily identify the required partition or drive. ?   :-?


Title: Re: How can I identify my drives?
Post by Brian on Dec 1st, 2011 at 12:41am
@ Janset

Janset wrote on Nov 30th, 2011 at 10:06pm:
the same as my Slave (unpartitioned) drive. 

Do you really mean that or does the HD contain one partition? Do you have each partition 'labelled"? The label will show in Ghost and help you identify partitions. Also the partitions on your first HD will be 1:1 and 1:2. The partition on your second HD will be 2:1.

When you restore an image the Local Destination Drive is Drive 1. When you select it you will see your labelled partitions.

Make sense?

Title: Re: How can I identify my drives?
Post by OldCasper on Dec 11th, 2011 at 3:44pm
I've said this before, but most readers either don't believe me or they just don't know what I'm talking about.
"Ghost knows!"

The motherboard bios displays your drives according to the way they are connected to the motherboard.
All drive ports are numbered in the bios and the bios will show the drives in numerical order.
Ghost reads the same information and will display the drives, in numerical order, by the way they are connected to the mobo.  So from that, you can easily tell which is which.  You will usually be copying from the first drive to the second one and restoring from the second drive to the first one.  It don't get much simpler than that.

Good biz on Ghost 11.5.  It's a real jewel.   I use it almost every day.   It even works great for Windows 8/DP.

Happy Holidays Mates!

Title: Re: How can I identify my drives?
Post by Big_Al on Dec 13th, 2011 at 2:59pm
                                                  December 13, 2011
Dear OldCasper,

   This question is along the vien of my Windows 7 Boot CD's Autoexec.bat File

Wording question at http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1323588391/0#0

but without the FAT32/NTFS twist thrown in.

   FYI, I aquired Ghost v11.5 and successfully altered NigtOwls "CD On Steroids"

so this works flawlessly:

@echo off
Ghost115.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=G:\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure

   BUT, again this was on my all FAT32 Windows 98SE box.

   Any advise on my original Windows 7 Boot CD's Autoexec.bat File Wording


Big Al

Title: Re: How can I identify my drives?
Post by OldCasper on Dec 15th, 2011 at 10:17am
I'm probably the wrong person to ask, as I don't run Ghost in any 'Hands Off' mode.
I'm a very "Hands ON" kind of guy and I want to run Ghost in different modes at different times, changing compression and destination and specifying the Image File name every time I run the program.

And then I use a DOS Menu system to give me even more options when I boot up the PC with my DOS boot disk.   Sorry, I've never really looked into that Boot CD from 'NiteOwl', as I've been making my own boot disks for about 30+ years now.  I have no problem making a CD off of my DOS Boot Floppy or my bootable flash drive, which is pretty much the same.

The problem I have with a Boot CD, is that you can't edit it, like you can a Boot Flash Drive.
I even have "Edit.com" on my boot disk to make alterations much easier from DOS.

I know, this probably sounds complicated, but it's ridiculously simple.
Just format a flash drive making it bootable and then build your disk, program by program.
You can wind up with a DOS boot disk (Flash Drive) with all your favorite DOS Utilities on it.

As for the autoexec.bat file, mine sets up some very basic parameters, loads Mouse.com and then runs my DOS, Ansi-Color, menu.  My own Autoexec.bat file looks like this. (on my boot floppy)

@Echo off
SET TZ=GHO-05:00

the config.sys file is also important for me, but it's super simple:


You can have white lettering on a black screen, if you like (I don't) but I much prefer
full color.

Here's an example of a full color menu.  I can't find my Ghost menu screen in my Photo Cache, so here's my ME Utilities menu screen.

but, here's the text of my Ghost DOS menu:

                            [41m   GHOST 11.5 Menu    [44m
   1.  Run Ghost 11.5 to make a new Backup Image, on Win XP.
        This program will delete all temp files, cookies, histories, etc.
        The Cleanup works only on a FAT-32 partition.(Not for NTFS)

   2.  Run Ghost 11.5  (use on XP, Vista or Win-7, with NTFS partition.)
        This program runs Ghost 11.5 alone, with NO cleanup being done.
         Also use this option to do Ghost Restores.

   3.  Run Ghost 11.5 on an NTFS drive and then shutdown the PC.
   4.  Delete all Restore points (Win-XP. Works on FAT-32 or after NTFS4DOS)

   5.  Delete Windows "Pagefile"  (Windows XP.  Works on FAT-32 only)

   6.  Run "NTFS4DOS" to be able to access and edit an NTFS Drive.
       After it runs, type Menu at the DOS prompt to return to this menu.

   7.  Run 5, then 4, then 1

   8.  Run Password Changer v3.0 (Build 0420)

The weird little codes are the escape codes for the Ansi-Color system.

I love this stuff, when I get it set up and running the way I want it.
And since this is on a Flash Drive, I can make changes in a heartbeat.

Happy Holidays Everyone!
Old Casper :)  8-)

Title: Re: How can I identify my drives?
Post by Big_Al on Dec 15th, 2011 at 1:55pm
                                                  December 15, 2011

Dear OldCasper,

   After thinking it over, I'm gonna go with a USB stick with all of

the proper "ingredients" and just have various folders with different

Autoexec.bat files in them like "Make to HDD" "Make to DVD" "Make to

HDD And DVD" "Restore From HDD" "Restore From DVD".

   Then, all I have to do is open the USB in Windows, switch the existing

Autoexec.bat for the one I need, re-boot and watch Ghost do it's thing.

   HOWEVER, before I can do that, I STILL have to get the "G:\" or "1:5"

question answered!

   Anybody out there that can answer it?????????

Again, Old, thanks for your input.

Long Live Ghost v11.5!!!!!!!!!!

Big Al

Title: Re: How can I identify my drives?
Post by NightOwl on Dec 16th, 2011 at 1:17am
@ Big_Al

so this works flawlessly:

@echo off
Ghost115.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=G:\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure

   BUT, again this was on my all FAT32 Windows 98SE box.

Are you sure of this?  I do not have Ghost 11.5 to test, but I do know that Ghost 2003 in DOS can not use anything but DOS drive letters in command lines to identify FAT32 partitions--and can only use the *1:1, 1:2, 2:1, etc.* designations for NTFS partitions--Ghost 2003 can not mix and match those.

I would be very surprised if DOS Ghost 11.5 can mix and match those designations--but, I've learned never to say never!

But, I would be interested in having this confirmed as correct!

Title: Re: How can I identify my drives?
Post by Big_Al on Dec 16th, 2011 at 6:28pm
                                                  December 16, 2011


>Are you sure of this?

   ZERO doubt.  I've use the same line using Ghost 2003, (My name for it: Ghost03.exe)

Corp. v7.5 (My name for it: GhostCE.exe) and v11.5 (My name for it: Ghost115.exe).

   If you recall my Jun 14th, 2006 reply to your post


>It would be of interest to see that *batch* file

   Ask And Ye Shall Receive:

Autoexec.bat.........This Auto Boots to my desktop after restore

@echo off
GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=G:\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure
set comspec=c:\command.com
set winbootdir=c:\windows

   Also, I found the answer to my "Windows 7 Boot CD's Autoexec.bat File Wording"


question about NTFS right in Ghost 2003's User Manual, page 168 and 169, Command-

Line Switches "Clone Switch Usage"!!  You can download it here:


   If you want to check out my Newest-1.gho restore for yourself, get your

bootcdp1.ima that I customized and named Ghost Custom Restore Windows 7 bootcdp1.zip

at http://depositfiles.com/files/o88dt3hsh

   Use Power ISO v4.8 to extract the Autoexec.bat file and you will see

Ghost115.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=G:\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure

   Since this is for Windows 7, I left off the

set comspec=c:\command.com
set winbootdir=c:\windows

but strangely though, it does not go to the "A" prompt, but says

"Hi-Mem Missing" & goes to a "C:\" prompt.

   The good thing about it is that it does not go into a loop and do the

restore endlessly.  That way you can manually reboot and change the "Start

With CD" to "Start With Hard Drive" in the BIOS.

   On another post you asked for references on Windows 7 not being able to

go to the desktop like my Windows 98SE batch files can do.

   Well, I went through a bunch of stuff (Even with you in January 2006) trying

to get a way for WinXP to do that and I came up empty, so I figured that Windows

7 would be even harder to do, and I was right. See:


"In earlier operating systems that used the FAT or FAT32 file systems, such as
Windows 95 and Windows 98, a boot disk was especially useful because it allowed
a person to access files on a hard disk even if Windows was unable to start.
This ability also represented a security risk, because anyone with a boot disk
and access to the computer could start the computer and access any file.
Hard disks formatted with NTFS have built-in security features that prevent
using a boot disk to access files."

So THAT issue's dead  :'(

Big Al

Title: Re: How can I identify my drives?
Post by Brian on Dec 16th, 2011 at 7:10pm
@ Big_Al

In this line

Big_Al wrote on Dec 16th, 2011 at 6:28pm:
GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=G:\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure

Is dst=1:1 a NTFS or FAT32 partition?

Title: Re: How can I identify my drives?
Post by Big_Al on Dec 16th, 2011 at 8:55pm
                                                  December 16, 2011


My whole Windows 98SE box has been FAT32 from the start.

Every batch file I ever wrote has always had a mix of "X:\" parts and "1:1" parts

Check here and you'll see what I mean:


Just for giggles, I'm gonna re-write my floppy batch from

GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=G:\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure
GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=1:5\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure

and see if Ghost goes to the G: Drive and gets the Newest-1.gho to restore to C:

I'll make a backup of Newest-1.gho first, though.

Big Al

Title: Re: How can I identify my drives?
Post by Big_Al on Dec 16th, 2011 at 9:37pm
                                                  December 16, 2011

   Well, THAT was an interesting experiment.

   When I went from

GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=G:\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure
GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=1:5\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure

I got an "invalid dump file" error.

   When I took the Newest-1.gho out of the 01_Ghost folder and put straight

into the G:\ drive like so:

GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=1:5\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure

I got the same "invalid dump file" error.

   I'm ASSUMING that from what Ghost 2003's User Manual, page 168 and 169

said, that as long as the source is FAT32, src=G:\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1

will work, but if the source is NTFS, src=1:5\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1

SHOULD be the way to go.

   I'll definitely find out when I get my new box together and run Ghost v11.5

manually to see how it identifies my various partitions.  I'll then tailor the CD

or USB stick Autoexec.bat files to suit it.

   Only time will  tell!

Big Al

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