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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #165 - Jan 21^st, 2006 at 5:51pm

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When you boot with the boot floppy, after the initial computer's POST, when the floppy is first accessed--pressing *F8* should bring up a boot screen menu with several choices--one being *step-by-step* confirmation of loading the device drivers from *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat*.

Go through each step, answering *Y* for *yes*--and see what is reported by each step. Does everything load, any error messages, any steps *skipped*, are the USB DOS drivers loading (usbaspi.sys* and *di1000dd.sys*), are drive letters being assigned, etc....report the results.

No question is stupid...but, possibly the answers are Wink

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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #166 - Jan 21^st, 2006 at 5:55pm

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Very good piikea!!! Now, as much as I'm not fond of Windoze Massive Excrement..............Let us know how it goes. tbb

Agreed, Me is a mess & exactly WHY I began trying to have/create back ups!!!

I did as you instructed & momentarily thought it was successful. It DID function as you said would, however Ghost still did not recognize the ext. HDD. It did "scanning" thing but said "no devices found" then asked for disk 2 as I recall.

Just to clarify too -
1. I have the 2 disk Ghost created disk set.
2. A seperate 2 disk "Universal Panasonic driver" set originally created by NightOwl/El_Pescador (designed to get Ghost to "see" ext. HDD's in DOS mode; not specifically designed for Western Digital ext. HDD's though IT HAD worked previously w/ this same pc & ext. HDD).
and,
3. the WMe boot floppy you had me create (to which I made the changes as you instructed).

Quote:

If you opened Disk 1's autoexec.bat with WordPad and saved, you need to come out and admit it.

Missed that earlier....I generally woulda used notepad. However, as I was trying to follow NightOwl's directions (originally) on page 1 of this post on the Driver set's creation - it says use Wordpad. I was not sure WHICH to use.

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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #167 - Jan 21^st, 2006 at 6:56pm

NightOwl wrote on Jan 21^st, 2006 at 5:51pm:

report the results.

Forgive my ignorance, I assume you mean boot w/ the panasonic driver disk 1 (as the W98SE disk El_P sent wouldn't/doesn't have those drivers on it; they are now on the newly created WMe boot disk augmented as tbbrick instructed) but you must mean your set.

Uh....yes....errors....
step 5. DEVICE=USBASPI.SYS
"the following file is missing or corrupted: USBASPI.SYS. There is an error in your CONFIG.SYS file on line 2"
step 6. DEVICE=ASPIEHCI.SYS
same error message except line 3
step 7. DEVICE=Di1000DD.SYS
same error message except line 4
step 11. GUEST.EXE
"Iomega Guest Driver version 8.5, no drive letter added"
step 12. MOUSE.COM
"mouse driver installed"
step 15. if == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
"syntax error"
step 16. if == FROMCD goto CDBOOT
"syntax error"
step 17. goto FAILED
step 18. Unknown boot menu selection
step 19. Unknown boot menu selection goto END
and lastly........
A:\> prompt.

Clearly it is corrupted OR I messed things up trying to "fix" it. The drivers may be corrupt but they ARE there in a folder called USB. If needed I can post contents of:
*config.sys* and *autoexec.bat*.

Sorry this has become such a pain....

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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #168 - Jan 22^nd, 2006 at 2:10am

piikea

Now I'm confused--it looks like you have now posted the results from three different boot disk sets--I thought you were trying to get the boot disks sent by El_Pescador working...

So, you decide which boot set you wish to work on..., but the information that you report has to be from only one set--you choose--but report the information from the one set.

Yes--need the contents of *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat*, the list of files and directories on the disk(s), and the error messages that occur for that particular set of boot files seen by using F8 during boot.

No question is stupid...but, possibly the answers are Wink

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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #169 - Jan 22^nd, 2006 at 6:57pm

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Now I'm confused--it looks like you have now posted the results from three different boot disk sets--I thought you were trying to get the boot disks sent by El_Pescador working...

Yes, the boot disks sent by El_Pescador are the problem. The info above are the error messages that occur(ed) for those disks using step by step confirmation during F8 boot.

The contents of *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat* & the list of files and directories on the disk(s) are below:

Disk 1 (of 2) labeled:
PANASONICDRV1 / MS-DOS / Panasonic USB Drivers contains:

USB folder w/ aspiehcs.sys, Di1000DD.sys, Usbaspi.sys
AUTOEXEC(.bat)
COMMAND
CONFIG.SYS
guest
HIMEM.SYS
IBMBIO
IBMDOS
IO.SYS
MOUSE (app)
MOUSE (config settings)
MSDOS.SYS

Disk 2 (of 2) labeled:
PANASONICDRV2 / MS-DOS / Panasonic USB Drivers contains:

GHOST folder containing ghost (app)
USB folder - empty
AUTOEXEC
CONFIG.SYS

Disk 1 AUTOEXEC(.bat) -

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+06:00
GUEST.EXE
MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

if %config% == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
if %config% == FROMCD goto CDBOOT

goto FAILED

:FLPYBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if exist a:\ghost\ghost.exe goto GHOSTFND
goto FLPYBOOT

:CDBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
b:
goto GHOSTFND

:GHOSTFND
cd \ghost
echo Loading...
GHOST.EXE
goto END

:FAILED
echo Unknown boot menu selection
goto END

:END

Disk 1 CONFIG.SYS -

Device=himem.sys
Device=usbaspi.sys /e /v
Device=aspiehci.sys
Device=di1000dd.sys @echo off
SET TZ=GHO+06:00
PATH=A:\;A:\GHOST;A:\USB
MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

if %config% == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
if %config% == FROMCD goto CDBOOT

goto FAILED

:FLPYBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if exist a:\ghost\ghost.exe goto GHOSTFND
goto FLPYBOOT

:CDBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
b:
goto GHOSTFND

:GHOSTFND
cd \ghost
echo Loading...
GHOST.EXE
goto END

:FAILED
echo Unknown boot menu selection
goto END
Dos=high,umb
Lastdrive=z

Disk 2 AUTOEXEC(.bat) -

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+06:00
PATH=A:\;A:\GHOST;A:\USB
MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

if %config% == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
if %config% == FROMCD goto CDBOOT

goto FAILED

:FLPYBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if exist a:\ghost\ghost.exe goto GHOSTFND
goto FLPYBOOT

:CDBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
b:
goto GHOSTFND

:GHOSTFND
cd \ghost
echo Loading...
GHOST.EXE
goto END

:FAILED
echo Unknown boot menu selection
goto END

Disk 2 config.sys -

[menu]
menuitem=FROMFLPY, This computer was started from a Ghost boot disk
menuitem=FROMCD, This computer was started from a Ghost bootable CD

[FROMFLPY]

[FROMCD]

[COMMON]
DEVICE = himem.sys
DEVICE = usb\usbaspi.sys /v /w /e
DEVICE = usb\di1000dd.sys
DOS = high,umb
LASTDRIVE = Z

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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #170 - Jan 22^nd, 2006 at 11:57pm

piikea

Okay--it looks like the *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat* on disk 1 are not correct. Delete both of those files from disk 1.

The *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat* on disk 2 appear to be correct! Copy those from disk 2 to disk 1!

Now try those boot disks using the *F8* at startup and report if that works--or what errors occur!

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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #171 - Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 11:20am

piikea wrote on Jan 21^st, 2006 at 6:56pm:

Forgive my ignorance, I assume you mean boot w/ the panasonic driver disk 1 (as the W98SE disk El_P sent wouldn't/doesn't have those drivers on it; they are now on the newly created WMe boot disk augmented as tbbrick instructed) but you must mean your set.

piikea,
First, sorry I couldn't get back online yesterday as I'd hoped.

Since Pesky sent you the disks originally and NightOwl is having you go thru the "check it out drill," I'll lurk for the time being. I agree with NO, that you should work with one set of disks.

I do have one question for 'it's and giggles. In post 21 Jan 06 0/a 1700, you wrote:
Quote:

I did as you instructed & momentarily thought it was successful. It DID function as you said would, however Ghost still did not recognize the ext. HDD. It did "scanning" thing but said "no devices found" then asked for disk 2 as I recall.

Did you insert disk 2 as prompted, and if so, what happened?

Like I said, keep on with NO's able instruction and set aside the ME boot disk we were working with for the time being. Unless of course, NO asks you to pull it out.

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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #172 - Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 11:32am

El_Pescador wrote on Jan 20^th, 2006 at 10:03pm:

Not long ago, I had the pleasure of briefly visiting with the Number Three executive of one of the most respected disaster-recovery contractors extant in the USA. He sadly related that the rate-of-installation for the now ubiquitous FEMA travel trailers his firm is placing could be increased

twenty-fold

if only all levels of government would respectively release their strangulating "red-tape".

EP

Pesky, Pesky, now you're starting to talk logically. As a former service member (USAF,) I found that cooperation between gov. agencies was always a trip. In this case, you have city, state, AND Fed operators, all fighting to keep control of power/$$$. God have mercy on the people they're supposed to be "helping."

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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #173 - Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 11:44am

piikea wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2006 at 6:57pm:

"... Yes, the boot disks sent by El_Pescador are the problem...."

It appears additional material was subsequently added to the boot disk set I sent piikea via US Mail; such items are

boldly highlighted in yellow

below and should be removed:

The contents of *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat* & the list of files and directories on the disk(s) are below:

Disk 1 (of 2) labeled:
PANASONICDRV1 / MS-DOS / Panasonic USB Drivers contains:

USB folder w/

aspiehci.sys,

Di1000DD.sys, Usbaspi.sys
AUTOEXEC(.bat)
COMMAND
CONFIG.SYS

guest

HIMEM.SYS
IBMBIO
IBMDOS
IO.SYS
MOUSE (app)
MOUSE (config settings)
MSDOS.SYS

Disk 2 (of 2) labeled:
PANASONICDRV2 / MS-DOS / Panasonic USB Drivers contains:

GHOST folder containing ghost (app)
USB folder - empty
AUTOEXEC
CONFIG.SYS

Disk 1 AUTOEXEC(.bat) -

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+06:00

GUEST.EXE

MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

if %config% == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
if %config% == FROMCD goto CDBOOT

goto FAILED

:FLPYBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if exist a:\ghost\ghost.exe goto GHOSTFND
goto FLPYBOOT

:CDBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
b:
goto GHOSTFND

:GHOSTFND
cd \ghost
echo Loading...
GHOST.EXE
goto END

:FAILED
echo Unknown boot menu selection
goto END

:END

Disk 1 CONFIG.SYS -

Device=himem.sys
Device=usbaspi.sys /e /v

Device=aspiehci.sys

Device=di1000dd.sys @echo off
SET TZ=GHO+06:00
PATH=A:\;A:\GHOST;A:\USB
MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

if %config% == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
if %config% == FROMCD goto CDBOOT

goto FAILED

:FLPYBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if exist a:\ghost\ghost.exe goto GHOSTFND
goto FLPYBOOT

:CDBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
b:
goto GHOSTFND

:GHOSTFND
cd \ghost
echo Loading...
GHOST.EXE
goto END

:FAILED
echo Unknown boot menu selection
goto END
Dos=high,umb
Lastdrive=z

Disk 2 AUTOEXEC(.bat) -

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+06:00
PATH=A:\;A:\GHOST;A:\USB
MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

if %config% == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
if %config% == FROMCD goto CDBOOT

goto FAILED

:FLPYBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if exist a:\ghost\ghost.exe goto GHOSTFND
goto FLPYBOOT

:CDBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
b:
goto GHOSTFND

:GHOSTFND
cd \ghost
echo Loading...
GHOST.EXE
goto END

:FAILED
echo Unknown boot menu selection
goto END

Disk 2 config.sys -

[menu]
menuitem=FROMFLPY, This computer was started from a Ghost boot disk
menuitem=FROMCD, This computer was started from a Ghost bootable CD

[FROMFLPY]

[FROMCD]

[COMMON]
DEVICE = himem.sys
DEVICE = usb\usbaspi.sys /v /w /e
DEVICE = usb\di1000dd.sys
DOS = high,umb
LASTDRIVE = Z

As an afterthought, the very latest version of usbaspi.sys should be substituted for what was dispatched last year.

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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #174 - Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 5:59pm

NightOwl wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2006 at 11:57pm:

piikea

Okay--it looks like the *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat* on disk 1 are not correct. Delete both of those files from disk 1.

The *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat* on disk 2 appear to be correct! Copy those from disk 2 to disk 1!

Now try those boot disks using the *F8* at startup and report if that works--or what errors occur!

NightOwl - i did "copy those from disk 2 to disk 1" & IT WORKS! Went thru F8 step by step (not including each step's results though I can if interested) & it eventually asked for Ghost Boot disk 2 which I put in & Ghost ran & the ext. HDD WAS recognized (so I can now use Ghost w/ it!).

Quote:

tbbrick: Did you insert disk 2 as prompted, and if so, what happened?

Yes I did & Ghost ran okay BUT the ext. HDD was NOT recognized.

Quote:

El_Pescador: such items are boldly highlighted in yellow below and should be removed:

Decided to check the disks after making changes as NightOwl suggested as 1st step & as IT IS FUNCTIONING as designed now I think I should leave well enough alone & play it safe!

BTW - I did run the Panasonic Drivers disk w/o using F8 subsequently to see if it worked "automatically" & it did work properly.

Thanks to all for time & help. Good luck EL_P!

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	Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More! Reply #175 - Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 7:09pm piikea Glad to hear you're back on track !
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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #176 - Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 9:44pm

piikea wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 5:59pm:

"... IT IS FUNCTIONING as designed now I think I should leave well enough alone & play it safe!..."

I maintain you would be well-served - in the long run, at least - to remove the

guest(.exe) command

and all lines containing

aspiehci.sys

as you risk mixing in the incompatible Norton/Iomega USB drivers with the compatible USB Panasonic drivers.

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Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!
Reply #177 - Jan 25^th, 2006 at 2:41am

El_Pescador wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2006 at 9:44pm:

I maintain you would be well-served - in the long run, at least - to remove the

guest(.exe) command

and all lines containing

aspiehci.sys

as you risk mixing in the incompatible Norton/Iomega USB drivers with the compatible USB Panasonic drivers.

EP

Just FYI EL_P I made a copy of the working floppy & removed items you mentioned above. It did work properly (i.e., scanned & recognized ext. HDD AND Ghost ran ok) however when it asked for Ghost disk 2 & I inserted it -- it initially said "bad command of file", then (apparently) continued "looking" or "looked" elsewhere & found Ghost.
A Ghost error log from the floppy afterwards read as follows:

Date : Mon Jan 23 16:14:25 2006
Error Number: (19010)
Message: Arguments must be preceeded with a '-' or a '/'
Version: 2003.775 (Aug 14 2002, Build=775)
Command line arguments: goto GHOSTFND
Active Switches :
AutoName

I now have 2 working Panasonic Drivers disks so it's not really a problem....just relaying it for all our general edification.

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	Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More! Reply #178 - Feb 3^rd, 2006 at 6:12pm piikea wrote on Jan 25^th, 2006 at 2:41am: I now have 2 working Panasonic Drivers disks so it's not really a problem....just relaying it for all our general edification. Glad to read it's doing right for you. tbb
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	Re: A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More! Reply #179 - Feb 3^rd, 2006 at 6:35pm Quote: Glad to read it's doing right for you. tbb Yeah - thanks for your help along the way!
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