NightOwl,

My ghost version is "Symantec Ghost 8.0.0 (build=984, cdrlib=3.1.31)" which...after your post I decided to try without any special drivers and BOY DO I FEEL FOOLISH!...it worked at full speed on my IBM 8106's (4Gig image transferred in 5 minutes!) without any special switches. I guess I was still thinking that the USB was tied to the OHCI.exe and UHCI.exe files loaded up disk by the "Ghost Boot Wizard" and also, Ghost 7.5 COrporate didn't perform the same way.

I built my disk and tried it on another machine HP dc7600 and it slows down to 20 minutes to finish the transfer. I guess it's using the USB 1.0 spec with this machine. It's a brand new box (even "Vista Compatable"!) but for some reason it doesn't achieve the same performance. I checked out the BIOS on this box to be sure there wasn't some sort of "legacy" setting enabled...the only thing I found was "Legacy FDD writable=Enabled"

...sure wish I had tried this before blowing so much time trying to get the other drivers to work.

Anyway...I will keep playing with it and trying it on our other machines to see what performance I can squeeze out of it. Maybe some of those switches will come in handy.

NightOwl,

Are you meaning that I should keep the USBASPI.SYS in my config.sys and drop the Motto Hairu driver? It was causing problems with my IBM machine and and the USBASPI.SYS never got past "....scanning devices..." with my HP D30.

Thanks!

well since no one apparently can help me, I had to try and help myself   

Actually, I found a boot disk that does exactly what I need. Fits on 1 floppy disk too! I actually found this by accident.  I usually use this one boot disk for all image loading/copying needs. I never thought to use this with the USB external drive I was trying to copy to and once I stumbled upon this thread I figured I needed to make some boot disks as NightOwl had discovered. (I wish it would work for me, sounds like the performance/support that it provides is great).  So I thought I'd try the bootdisk for the hell of it. It shocked me when I could do all the things I wanted to with the USB devices that I previously could not before.

This is what my boot disk consists of:

- GHOST directory with the ghost.exe in it
- autoexec.bat
- btccdrom.sys
- btdosm.sys
- command.com
- config.sys
- flashpt.sys
- ibmbio.com
- ibmdos.com
- mouse.com
- mouse.ini
- mscdex.exe
- oakcdrom.sys

That's it and I have full use of my USB mouse/keyboard and the external drive. I am assuming that it all works because of USB legacy support from the PC/BIOS. Well, I didn't really figure out how to make the "better USB 2.0 + ghost" boot disk work (I wish I could!), but at least I can get it working for now.

NightOwl wrote on Feb 12^th, 2007 at 10:43pm:


yeah, funny how that works. I feel dumb, but yet not really since I did learn a lot by reading through this read and going through trial and error here. You guys do amazin stuff. I troll here for all my ghost needs

OzZXtc

Thanks for your input.

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The fastest, surest way to use Ghost is to install a second HDD on a system--if that's an option--all other options are slower--and you may have to troubleshoot compatibility/connectivity issues!

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Wow. That's good news.

Hallo, greets to NightOwl and El_Pescador. 80000+ views (I contributed some, LOL) and in 2008 still going strong! Just wanted to share my experience to save frustration for those who stumbles upon this topic.

I'm using a recent laptop with Phoenix Bios ver 1.05 with two ATI IXP400 USB ohci and one ATI IXP400 USB2 ehci. I disabled the Legacy USB Support and SCSI mass storage sub-class support.

I've tried almost all suggestion from page 1 to 18 and they just wouldn't work for me. The Panasonic v2.20 simply refused to identify my ehci with the /e /v parameter (and /nocbc /noprt for good measure, with or w/o legacy support). It just hangs indefinitely at '... Scanning usb devices ...'.
I even tried the /w idea and only plugging in the drive after the prompt - to no avail.

The only way to make it work is by using /o /v plus fiddling around with the bios usb support if you may (/u won't work for me as I don't have uhci) and it'll detect my ohci controller. Didn't even need to load Di1000dd.sys to assign drive letter as my Ghost (i use v11.0.1 with no special parameters) found the drive just the same. (If I load the Di1000dd.sys, ghost will display two instances of the same drive - probably due to my double ohci, but it matters not). The only caveat is that the transfer rate is horrendously slow at 40 MB/min. 32 hours to ghost 80GB at fast compression? No way!    

So here's how I figured out how to ghost to my WD Elements 400GB external hdd at USB2 High Speed.

1. disable both usb legacy support and scsi subclass support (may be particular only to my bios)
2. zero out partition for easy compression. See g4u for tips http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
3. load also udma2.sys /o (don't know if this helps) and do a checkdsk whenever you make a user-abort. Ghost starts up slow if there's drive inconsistencies
4. ghost /FORCEUSB (if your drive is not detected then exit and run ghost /FORCEUSB again! The first run will light up the disk LED, the second will detect it)

and eureka! 900MB/min transfer rate for my half empty FFS partition and goes down to 300MB/min for my NTFS and FAT32 which contains a lot of already compressed files like JPG, MP3 and .tgz. Now ghosting time was reduced to like 2.5 hours. Excellent!

So my conclusion is that if you have the latest hardware and the good ol' panasonic ehci driver simply refuses to work, then don't use it.

Although irrelevant, also stumbled upon this: https://forums.symantec.com/syment/board/message?board.id=109&thread.id=9363
How rude! The only reason I'm still using ghost is because it allows me to explore the image and also image non-windows partition. If ghost-exploring is a non issue, have a go at g4u.

Like all the other solutions offered, this one worked for me and hopefully for you also. Viel Glück!!