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rootkits from sony
Nov 4
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, 2005 at 10:43pm
Sony Facing the Music over Rootkits
http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=68978&cat_id=582
Sony DRM is worse than you might think
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27426
Sony DRM Decloaking Patch Might Crash Windows
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,123438,00.asp
and at GOOGLE:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=rootkits+%2Bsony&btnG=Search+News
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Nov 6
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, 2005 at 11:25am
For information on rootkit detection options, see the thread "Rootkits: Beyond Viruses & Spyware" on this forum at:
http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11219...
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, 2005 at 3:02pm
And the expected security threats arising from Sony's rootkit are beginning to appear: See "New virus uses Sony BMG software" on CNN at
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/11/10/sony.hack.reut/index.html
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Nov 12
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, 2005 at 2:35pm
CNN is now reporting: "Sony to halt use of controversial CD protection" - see
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/11/sony.copyprotection.ap/index.html
These actions by Sony have resulted in one irrevocable decision for me: I will never, never purchase any Sony product for the remainder of my earthly days. Any company that is more concerned with protecting its copyrights than with protecting its customers is not worthy of my business.
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Nov 12
th
, 2005 at 3:09pm
Pleonasm
You do realize that the main reason we get so much spam is that Microsoft's programs are geared toward making it easier for business to mass-merchandise to the feeble minded masses--and their web products are geared towards these multi-media glitz websites that are riddled with security openings!
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Nov 12
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, 2005 at 6:58pm
Ah, NightOwl, I agree with your observation. But in this case, we have a major company - Sony - that knowingly and willingly choose to infect customers' PCs with a rootkit that can facilitate a virus infection. The fault is clearly that of Sony, and not of Microsoft.
I think Sony's behavior is disgraceful. They should be ashamed.
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, 2005 at 7:44pm
Nightowl,
Microsoft's actions, past, present and future, aside, don't you think Sony knew that hackers could, and would, hide behind their rootkit copy protection setup? That is what I find to be inexcusable - I think they had to know (they are not a small company with very limited resources), yet they still used the scheme.
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Nov 13
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, 2005 at 1:21am
Pleonasm and thorin
Don't get me wrong--I am not trying to *apologize* for Sony's stupidity--I loath any company the puts something on my system without making it clear what they are doing--Symantec does it with their bloated *SystemWorks* all the time--I wish they would install the software and leave it to me to configure and choose what to have running in the background--I spend the first hour after installation turning off all the hidden processes that I didn't really want running--Intuit with their TurboTax software whose EULA allows one to have a backup copy of their software, used a *spyware* company's anti-piracy software that would *break* my RIAD mirror array each time I ran Turbotax because it detected my mirror drive an *illegal* attempt to copy their software--
my point is/was that Sony is not the only/or first company to purposely create software that is not primarily in the best interests of the customers they sell their products to!
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Nov 13
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, 2005 at 12:50pm
Good points, NightOwl. With respect to software, the rule is "let the buyer beware."
I selected TaxCut for preparing my personal family taxes rather than TurboTax for the reasons you stated in your post, and have been using it over the years. My understanding is that Intuit has since disabled the spyware scheme in TurboTax, but even if that is true, I still will not 'reward' Intuit for their bad behavior by buying their products. They have lost this one customer for life. Period.
Concerning SystemWorks, though, I'm confused. Yes, the package installs with a set of standard defaults that typically need to be customized, but what do you mean by "turning off all the hidden processes that I didn't really want running"? I would be curious to learn exactly what you disable in SystemWorks.
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Nov 13
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, 2005 at 4:50pm
To all
Happened across this web page--haven't listened to the offerings as yet--but looks relevant:
Security Now
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, 2005 at 9:39pm
Never expected the story would make it to
the comicstrips :
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/uclickcomics/cx_ft_uc/latest
date: Mo Nov 21
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A fascinating and technically detailed log of this saga may be found at
http://www.sysinternals.com/Blog/. 
; Highly recommended reading for all.
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Nov 23
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The State of Texas is in the process of suing Sony. If successful, they seek to collect $100,000 in damages for
each
violation of the state's Consumer Protection Against Computer Spyware Act.
Sony is about to learn what most Americans already know:
"Don't Mess With Texas!"
Reference:
http://www.oag.state.tx.us/newspubs/releases/2005/112105sony_pop.pdf
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Nov 30
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, 2005 at 1:48pm
The arrogance of Sony continues. Although the company recalled five million CDs with the rootkit software, they continue to distribute CDs with "hard-to-remove software that alerts the company whenever a CD loaded with its technology is played" (according to the
Los Angeles Times
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Nov 30
th
, 2005 at 2:39pm
Pleonasm
I saw a local newspaper tech article about two weeks ago that said Sony has created a *uninstall* fix that you can download from a website--sorry--I don't know the details--but, the gist of the article was
you have to let the website *prep* your system to accept the download--but, turns out that *prepping* leaves your system open to downloads from other web sites that know how to exploit whatever it is the Sony's *prepping* opened, and apparently leaves *open*!
I don't know how true this is--anyone *in the know* that can confirm this?
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