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Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #15 - Mar 1^st, 2006 at 7:40pm

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Mackey, doesn't the HP pc have another (perhaps hidden) partition that you may not see?

My Computer/right click/Manage/Disk Management

How many partitions are shown with your original/current drive?

I don't think it's the MBR as a problem, but you said previously that it booted up to the logon screen.

Did you move your SATA after the copying to the first sata 0 connector position? Maybe there is a boot option in the bios also.

The drive inthe HP is a replacemnet, so no hidden partitions

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Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #16 - Mar 1^st, 2006 at 8:31pm

Brian wrote on Mar 1^st, 2006 at 7:19pm:

Don't go without telling us how many partitions are in Disk Management (your IDE drive).

This may help if you install WinXP.

http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/kb/en/document?dn=109...

http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=281

Another update --

I just tried Ghost 10's upgrade drive to drive copy, and im back to everything working up to the point of login.. It boost, with my name in the box and when i type in my password it starts and then says loggin off over and over Sad

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Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #17 - Mar 1^st, 2006 at 9:02pm

I think Brian is right about needing to do a Repair Install.

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11393...

My guess is that the SATA drivers which are needed to access your now-sata boot drive aren't loaded until later (which is why you could use your sata drive as a data drive, but not boot drive). Or else there is some change in the internal registry because of the change in boot drive, which the repair install will fix. After completing the repair install, you have to download the Windows updates again, but your applications are ok. (Just be sure you have a good backup first.)

That's assuming you have the Windows XP startup CD. Some manufacturers don't automatically include them with new PC's anymore. You have to request/pay for them.

If you don't have it you can try to see if you can boot into XP safe mode. Press F8 repeatedly during power-on boot process and see if you get the safe mode screen. See if you can logon to Administrator account or your userid account.

Any other ideas Brian or anyone else? I'm kind of stumped at this point.

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	Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10 Reply #18 - Mar 1^st, 2006 at 9:41pm You have nothing to lose. The HD doesn't boot properly. Try a Repair Install.
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	Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10 Reply #19 - Mar 1^st, 2006 at 9:56pm Great initial post. Kudos.
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Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #20 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 5:00am

Hi all. I am going insane.

I was notified by a SMART laptop drive that it was about to die. Excellent, I went out, bought a Lacie 250GB USB drive and Nortoon SystemWorks 2006 Premier. I was able to create a verified Recovery Point for the hard drive prior to the old drive dying entirely (good idea SMART).

Now I have purchased a new 80GB HDD, but the Norton Recovery disk simply refuses to recognise the recovery points on the USB drive ... the drive itself is recognised without a problem.

I have tried changing the references in the "*.ini" files to reflect the new dirve letter (Lacie used to be G:\ is now D:\ as the recovery disk does not recognise the card readers on the lapton).

I have tried creating a new boot partition on the new hard drive so that the HDD is recognised by the Recovery Disk. Still no joy.

I have combed the symantec pages for some help ... no help there. I have combed this thread ... unless i missed something.

Has anyone got any ideas why the Recovery Point is not being recognised? If not, I guess I will just have to start rebuilding my HDD (sigh).

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Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #21 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 5:40am

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I think Brian is right about needing to do a Repair Install.

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11393...

My guess is that the SATA drivers which are needed to access your now-sata boot drive aren't loaded until later (which is why you could use your sata drive as a data drive, but not boot drive). Or else there is some change in the internal registry because of the change in boot drive, which the repair install will fix. After completing the repair install, you have to download the Windows updates again, but your applications are ok. (Just be sure you have a good backup first.)

That's assuming you have the Windows XP startup CD. Some manufacturers don't automatically include them with new PC's anymore. You have to request/pay for them.

If you don't have it you can try to see if you can boot into XP safe mode. Press F8 repeatedly during power-on boot process and see if you get the safe mode screen. See if you can logon to Administrator account or your userid account.

Any other ideas Brian or anyone else? I'm kind of stumped at this point.

Safe mode does the same thing, it will load up to the login screen and then once I put my password in it says loading - then it says logging off Ill try the repair install tonight.. thanks for all the help

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Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #22 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 8:28am

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Now I have purchased a new 80GB HDD, but the Norton Recovery disk simply refuses to recognise the recovery points on the USB drive ... the drive itself is recognised without a problem.

Dave, after booting from the recovery CD, Ghost tries to find the catalog of recovery points. I think that is the message you are getting. You need to choose the "Open from another location" and find the usb drive and folder yourself. It will probably be different drive letter but you should be able to find it.

Your new hard drive should be blank and unformatted. Ghost will handle that.

Read the thread
Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11393...

Please post back here if that works or not.

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	Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10 Reply #23 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 6:21pm I found this http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/powerquest.nsf/docid/2005052419404662?OpenD...
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Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #24 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 6:31pm

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I think Brian is right about needing to do a Repair Install.

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11393...

My guess is that the SATA drivers which are needed to access your now-sata boot drive aren't loaded until later (which is why you could use your sata drive as a data drive, but not boot drive). Or else there is some change in the internal registry because of the change in boot drive, which the repair install will fix. After completing the repair install, you have to download the Windows updates again, but your applications are ok. (Just be sure you have a good backup first.)

That's assuming you have the Windows XP startup CD. Some manufacturers don't automatically include them with new PC's anymore. You have to request/pay for them.

If you don't have it you can try to see if you can boot into XP safe mode. Press F8 repeatedly during power-on boot process and see if you get the safe mode screen. See if you can logon to Administrator account or your userid account.

Any other ideas Brian or anyone else? I'm kind of stumped at this point.

Okay team, well no luck -- repair hangs at 24 minutes left and never finishes -- so I am throwing in the towel

Ill just get another IDE as the main drive until i can afford a new PC all togetther.. SAD thing is I now have a WD2500 and Maxstor 160 Both Brand new SATA drives i cannot use Sad

ebay here i come .. thanks again for everyones help

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Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #25 - Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 6:48pm

You can use your SATA drives in an external enclosure. Good for removable backup.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=15876

http://www.vantecusa.com/

I have one and they aren't expensive. You already have the HD's.

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11404...

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	Re: How to Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10 Reply #26 - Mar 3^rd, 2006 at 1:20am One thing we didn't try is Method #3. It will only take a minute. http://www.goodells.net/multiboot/partsigs.htm Quote: The boot process may hang (usually at the login or blue "Welcome" screen) while XP-2 searches in vain for "drive C:".
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Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #27 - Mar 3^rd, 2006 at 8:13am

mackey wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 6:31pm:

Okay team, well no luck -- repair hangs at 24 minutes left and never finishes -- so I am throwing in the towel

Brian, good idea.

If that doesn't fix the problem, and if you have the time or interest, here is an idea to confirm where the problem is. You evidently have your Windows XP startup disk cd. You have two SATA drives that won't work after restoring with Ghost.

To verify whether or not it is a Ghost problem or a Windows XP problem, I would do this:
1. Remove your current IDE drive from the system. Put it away in a safe place.
2. Connect your SATA drive as position 0 in your pc.
3. Boot from your Windows startup CD.
4. See if you can install Windows XP. Have the startup CD erase/reformat you SATA drive when it asks.

I keep wondering if there aren't motherboard or bios updates needed. This will confirm whether you can EVER use SATA hard drives on your system or not. Or whether it is a Windows XP or Ghost 10 issue.

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Re: How to Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #28 - Mar 3^rd, 2006 at 9:10am

I can use the 2 SATA's as data drives no problem

The mother board bios is up to date, but that date is mar 04.

Do chip set updates need to be appied?
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Also I have tried to use one of the SATA drives and install windows xp pro SP2 on it, when I do it tells me the 250 GIG drive is only a 130 gig drive, yet Bios says its 250.. I think the time spent and effort aplied at this point is mute

I am going to just replace the old IDE with a new IDE and use one of the 250 gig SATA's in the PC and one of them outside with the USB box someone recomended earlier in the thread. so, I have 500 gigs of storage and Ill have a new 200 gig IDE as my main drive ... I know that ghost will backup and restore to IDE I have tested that, so - LOL tage your it

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Re: Replace a Hard Drive using Ghost 10
Reply #29 - Mar 3^rd, 2006 at 9:51am

Brian wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2006 at 6:48pm:

You can use your SATA drives in an external enclosure. Good for removable backup.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=15876

http://www.vantecusa.com/

I have one and they aren't expensive. You already have the HD's.

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11404...

thanks Brian, its on its ay from Tiger tech

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