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STILL Can't Get Ghost 2003 Boot CD To Work
Jun 13th, 2006 at 4:17am
 
                                              June 13, 2006


Dear Forum,

   What I am seeking is to load a boot CD, power my laptop,

plug-in & power my HDD Enclosure and end up looking at the

Ghost DOS screen.

   All of my attempts have garnered me a bucket full of CD

coasters.  The Laptop boots but just sits there.  Other

times it will load the USB but say it's scanning for devices

and stops dead.  I've tried so many combinations of

Autoexec.bat and Config.sys files, my head is spinning!

   After scouring these forums for HOURS, this is as far as

I have gotten to the Holy Grail:  Two floppies!!!!!!!

BUT, they DO work.


1. Opened Ghost 2003 Build 793

2. Made floppy set using MS-DOS, USB 2.0 Support & Assign Letters

3. 1st floppy contents is...

GHOST folder Empty
USB   folder with aspiehci.sys     51KB dated 5-28-03
AUTOEXEC.BAT
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
guest.exe
IO.SYS
MOUSE.COM
MSDOS.SYS

4. AUTOEXEC.BAT Contents...

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+08:00
GUEST.EXE
MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

if %config% == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
if %config% == FROMCD goto CDBOOT

goto FAILED

:FLPYBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if exist a:\ghost\ghost.exe goto GHOSTFND
goto FLPYBOOT

:CDBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
b:
goto GHOSTFND

:GHOSTFND
cd \ghost
echo Loading...
GHOST.EXE
goto END

:FAILED
echo Unknown boot menu selection
goto END

:END


5. CONFIG.SYS Contents...

[menu]
menuitem=FROMFLPY, This Computer Was Started From a Ghost Boot Disk
menuitem=FROMCD, This Computer Was Started From a Ghost Bootable CD

[FROMFLPY]

[FROMCD]

[COMMON]
DEVICE = usb\aspiehci.sys /int /all
LASTDRIVE = Z


6. 2nd floppy contents is...

Ghost folder with Ghost.exe in it

AUTOEXEC.BAT


7. AUTOEXEC.BAT Contents...

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+08:00
GUEST.EXE
MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

if %config% == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
if %config% == FROMCD goto CDBOOT

goto FAILED

:FLPYBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if exist a:\ghost\ghost.exe goto GHOSTFND
goto FLPYBOOT

:CDBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
b:
goto GHOSTFND

:GHOSTFND
cd \ghost
echo Loading...
GHOST.EXE
goto END

:FAILED
echo Unknown boot menu selection
goto END

:END


With these 2 floppies I:

A. Boot the Dell Laptop.

B. Have to choose "Boot From Floppy" or "Boot From CD".

C. Plug in the External HDD and power it on.

D. Have the External HDD found (After about 40 seconds).

E. Show all of the External HDD's drives G, H, I, J & K.

F. See both HDD's in the Ghost screen.

G. Have the ability of using Ghost as I always have.

H. Create an Image to a partition of the C: Drive with

   2 Gigs worth of files in under 2½ minutes and get a

   728MB image file as a result on High Compression.  It

   runs at 500+ MPM to make and 900+ MPM to CRC check the

   Image.

I. Have access to the built-in CD Burner.


I am assuming that when I make my 2.88 MB Bootcdp1.ima

with WinImage, the above mentioned.....


aspiehci.sys     51KB dated 5-28-03
AUTOEXEC.BAT
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
guest.exe
IO.SYS
MOUSE.COM
MSDOS.SYS

AND Ghost.exe, of course

are in there.


NOW for "Da Questions":


1. With the above performance to make/CRC check (which I

   think are pretty decent) are there any OTHER files I

   need to add to the list?

   If yes, which?

2. What should my Autoexec.bat have in it?

3. What should my Config.sys have in it?


As always, any help is greatfully appreciated.


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Re: STILL Can't Get Ghost 2003 Boot CD To Work
Reply #1 - Jun 13th, 2006 at 10:48am
 
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There's several ways to approach this issue--it depends on what you want the bootable optical media to *look like* and what you want it *to do for you*--meaning--do you want to use the Ghost Boot Disks as they stand (with minor modifications), or do you want a *custom* boot sequence--both options can take you to the *same* conclusion.

A couple points:

Quote:
All of my attempts have garnered me a bucket full of CD coasters.

I hope these are *temporary* coasters--using *rewriteables* so they can be erased and re-used?

Quote:
I am assuming that when I make my 2.88 MB Bootcdp1.ima with WinImage, the above mentioned.....

Do you wish Ghost to have the ability to create bootable optical media on it's own when you're done with creating your bootable CD?  When you use WinImage to create a *non-standard* boot image size of 2.88 MB (standard is 1.44 MB floppy disk size)--Ghost will not work with the 2.88 MB boot image--it can only *understand* a 1.44 MB image size.  So the bootable optical disc will boot and load Ghost fine, but Ghost will not be able to use the 2.88 MB boot sector to create a bootable optical disc on its own.

If you do not care about Ghost creating bootable optical media--then the non-standard boot sector of 2.88 will not be a problem.

Looks like you are using, in part, this guide:
Creating Bootable CD/DVD's Without A:\Floppy Drive


This thread talks about adding USB DOS drivers to the above boot CD:  
Adding USB to Ghost Boot CD


And this may help too:  
Placing *ghost.exe* on the bootable CD/DVD project disc


Quote:
1. With the above performance to make/CRC check (which I think are pretty decent)

I don't know what you are asking here--don't understand the question--please elaborate.

So, if you want your bootable disc to look *mostly* like the two disk boot floppy set--let me know and we can try to change it to work.
 

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Re: STILL Can't Get Ghost 2003 Boot CD To Work
Reply #2 - Jun 13th, 2006 at 4:25pm
 
Night,

>What you want it to do for you

  I want two different Boot Disks.


First One.....

A. Insert the Boot CD in player.

B. Turn on the Laptop.

C. Plug in the External HDD and power it on.

D. Have the External HDD found.

E. Have the Ghost DOS screen shown.

F. See both HDD's in the Ghost screen.

G. Have access to the built-in CD Burner to make CD images.

H. Have the ability of using Ghost as I always have.


Second One..... Now THIS one is THEE Holy Grail!!!!

A. Insert the Boot CD in player.

B. Turn on the Laptop.

C. Plug in the External HDD and power it on.

D. Have the External HDD found.

E. Have it automatically execute the following:

  Make an Image of the C: Drive the the E: Drive.

  Name that Image Newest.gho.

  Run TWO CRC checks of the Image created.

  With no floppy involved with this operation, I'm not

  sure how this scenerio would end?!?!

  Suggestions Welcome!


>When you use WinImage to create a *non-standard* boot image
size of 2.88 MB

  The reason I went 2.88 is to include the 1008KB Ghost.exe

file in the Bootcdp1.ima.  If it can be made without including

Ghost.exe, it goes down to 1.44.  I'll check out "Placing

*ghost.exe* on the bootable CD/DVD project disc".


>This thread talks about adding USB DOS drivers to the above

  I don't THINK I need any other USB DOS drivers.  As I

said, the files Ghost 2003 Build 793 put on the 1st floppy..

1.  Finds the External HDD found (After about 40 seconds).

2.  Shows all of the External HDD's drives G, H, I, J & K.

3.  Shows me both HDD's in the Ghost screen.

4.  Gives me the ability of using Ghost as I always have.

5.  Givs me access to the built-in CD Burner.

6.  Makes image to disk files at 500+ MPM to make and 900+

   MPM to CRC check.


  What more could other drivers do for moi?



>I don't know what you are asking here

   I was asking if there are any more files needed other

than.....

aspiehci.sys     51KB dated 5-28-03
AUTOEXEC.BAT
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
guest.exe
IO.SYS
MOUSE.COM
MSDOS.SYS
Ghost.exe

to give me the above 2 Boot Disks.  Like Himem.sys, aspi?dos.sys

Mscdex.exe, Oakcdrom.sys, etc.

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Re: STILL Can't Get Ghost 2003 Boot CD To Work
Reply #3 - Jun 13th, 2006 at 6:01pm
 
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Quote:
H.  Have the ability of using Ghost as I always have.

1.  I ask again:  *Do you wish Ghost to have the ability to create bootable optical media on it's own when you're done with creating your bootable CD?*  The answer determines what you can or can not do as far as a boot sector for optical media.  Ghost will not create bootable optical media if the CD boot sector is 2.88 MB.

Quote:
Run TWO CRC checks of the Image created.

2.  I do not run any CRC checks--are you referring to an *Integrity* check after creating an image?

Quote:
A. Insert the Boot CD in player.

B. Turn on the Laptop.

C. Plug in the External HDD and power it on.

3.  I'm not sure how your Laptop works--can you insert a CD before turning on a laptop?  I would suggest the better order of events to be:

A.  Plug in the External HDD and power it on.
B.  Turn on the Laptop.
C.  Insert the Boot CD in player.
etc.

Quote:
G. Have access to the built-in CD Burner to make CD images.

4.  Same question as 1. above--do you want to make bootable optical discs when creating Ghost images to optical media?  This would not be possible if you use the 2.88 MB optical boot sector.

Quote:
E. Have it automatically execute the following:

   Make an Image of the C: Drive the the E: Drive.

   Name that Image Newest.gho.

   Run TWO CRC checks of the Image created.

   With no floppy involved with this operation, I'm not sure how this scenerio would end!


With Ghost 2003 in DOS, you will have to put up with the initial *Licensing* nag screen and click through it, otherwise everything else could be automated--except it would be an *Integrity Check* and not a *CRC check*, and only one *Integrity Check*--not two,  and if your systems allows the CD to be ejected after the Ghost procedure starts, and you include a *switch* to re-boot the system after the Ghost operation--this would re-boot your system back to your OS--if you leave your bootable CD in, then you'd boot back to Ghost again and run an endless loop.
 

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Reply #4 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 3:17am
 
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>1. I ask again:  *Do you wish Ghost to have the ability to
    create bootable optical media on it's own when you're done
    with creating your bootable CD?*

    No.  I just need the ability to manually burn a CD Image

    with the Laptop as I described in "First One....."

    When I do a restore on my bud's Laptop, I use a batch file

    I wrote to load the CD and overwrite the C: Drive.  It's

    easier for me to do it that way.  I just load the CD into

    the tray, insert the disk into his USB floppy and go make a

    cup of coffee.


>2. I do not run any CRC checks--are you referring to an
    *Integrity* check after creating an image?

    Yes.  When I got my Ghost v5.0, it was called a "CRC

    Check".  I never picked up on the fact that they changed

    the terminology over the years, sorry.



>3. I'm not sure how your Laptop works--can you......

    I'll give that a try.



>4.  Same question as 1. above--do you want to make...

     As above, no.

     BTW: Let me reiterate a point.  With the 2 floppies

     that Ghost 2003 makes me, when I get to the Ghost

     DOS screen and click Partition-->To Image the screen

     that I get when it goes to the destination has the

     drop-down for access to all of the HDD's and I can

     ALSO see the built-in Phillips CD-Burner, too.



>  You will have to put up with the initial *Licensing* nag screen

   No biggie.



>  And only one *Integrity Check*--not two

   Again, no biggie.



>  If your systems allows the CD to be ejected after

   It doesn't :0(



>  If you leave your bootable CD in, then you'd boot back

   to Ghost again and run an endless loop.


   Isn't there a switch I can put in to tell Ghost that

   after the Image is put on the E: Drive to just stop?

   Maybe show that "Continue or Restart Computer" mini-

   screen?


   One more thing:  Since you say that using WinImage at

2.88 MB would cause a problem, I'm assuming the Autoexec.bat

file you give me will load Ghost.exe from another part of

the CD, correct?



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Reply #5 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 3:36am
 
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   I completely forgot to tell you one thing.  Whenever I do

anything with a computer, I ALWAYS make the CD/DVD the Z:

Drive in Windows.

   If there is a player AND a burner, then the player is Y:

Drive and the burner Z: Drive.

   So I made my buds Phillips CD the Z: Drive.

   Hope this omission didn't screw anything up.



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Reply #6 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 11:18am
 
Big_Al

Still laying some ground work--but it's becoming clearer what you want--few more questions and clarifications:

Quote:
When I do a restore on my bud's Laptop, I use a batch file I wrote to load the CD and overwrite the C: Drive.  It's easier for me to do it that way.  I just load the CD into the tray, insert the disk into his USB floppy and go make a cup of coffee.

It would be of interest to see that *batch* file (seeing something that's working on a system often helps figure out how to make other batch files work), and what files you are using on that floppy and the contents of *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat*--what version of Ghost is this batch file written for?

Quote:
3.  I'm not sure how your Laptop works--can you insert a CD before turning on a laptop?

Are you able to open the CD tray on a laptop before you turn it on?

Quote:
I am assuming that when I make my 2.88 MB
Bootcdp1.ima with WinImage
, the above mentioned.....

To clarify--creating this *boot image* with WinImage and naming it this, comes from my Guide:  
Creating Bootable CD/DVD's Without A:\Floppy Drive
.

In order to use a 2.88 MB boot image, your CD burning program has to support that as an option--most default to 1.44 MB boot images--many do not offer 2.88 MB as an option--only 1.44 MB!

We need to narrow our focus--you have talked about the *THEE Holy Grail*, and have it be *automated*:
Quote:
E. Have it automatically execute the following:

  Make an Image of the C: Drive the the E: Drive.

(Is E:\ drive a HDD partition, internal HDD or external USB HDD--or an optical writer?  And, what file system(s) are in use--DOS drive letters change depending on that!?)

But, you also have talked about loading USB external HDD's (I presume to store and pull Ghost images off of them?):

Quote:
C. Plug in the External HDD and power it on.

D. Have the External HDD found.


And, creating Ghost images to the optical writer:

Quote:
G. Have access to the built-in CD Burner to make CD images.


And, restoring Ghost images from an optical writer:

Quote:
When I do a restore on my bud's Laptop, I use a batch file I wrote to load the CD and overwrite the C: Drive.  It's easier for me to do it that way.  I just load the CD into the tray, insert the disk into his USB floppy and go make a cup of coffee.


These are all different scenarios--each with their own issues--but, I think the most basic problem is creating a bootable CD with Ghost on it--and you want to use the files on the two disk Ghost boot floppies--as opposed to using the information in my
Guide
, along with the additional references given above in reply #1.

So, here goes--

(Editorial:   Wink

Firstly, I don't know what Symantec was smoking when they designed their Ghost Boot Wizard--and the two disk sets--if you look at the details in the *config.sys* and the *autoexec.bat*--they give you the *menu* option of selecting if you booted from a Ghost bootable CD or from a floppy disk--but you have to have a floppy drive regardless of which boot source you used--if you have to have a floppy drive either way--why bother!?--just boot from the floppy!

End of Editorial.   Wink )

Step 1:  

So, first let's strip away the superfluous *menu* items in *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat*:

[config.sys]

[menu]
menuitem=FROMFLPY, This Computer Was Started From a Ghost Boot Disk
menuitem=FROMCD, This Computer Was Started From a Ghost Bootable CD

[FROMFLPY]

[FROMCD]

[COMMON]

DEVICE = usb\aspiehci.sys /int /all
LASTDRIVE = Z


[autoexe.bat]

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+08:00
GUEST.EXE
MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

if %config% == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
if %config% == FROMCD goto CDBOOT

goto FAILED

:FLPYBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if exist a:\ghost\ghost.exe goto GHOSTFND
goto FLPYBOOT

:CDBOOT
echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
pause
if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
b:
goto GHOSTFND

:GHOSTFND
cd \ghost
echo Loading...
GHOST.EXE  
goto END

:FAILED
echo Unknown boot menu selection
goto END

:END

************************************
So you should now have:

[config.sys]

DEVICE = usb\aspiehci.sys /int /all
LASTDRIVE = Z

[autoexe.bat]

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+08:00
GUEST.EXE
MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

Step #2:  

When you add large DOS driver files to the boot floppy, it takes up too much room and the *Ghost.exe* will not fit in a 1.44 MB floppy (or boot image file)--so we have to put *ghost.exe* on the data part of the CD and not in the *boot sector part--which will only be that 1.44 MB size.  So, we have to add DOS access to the optical drive by having a drive letter assigned--for IDE-optical drives (most common), usually *Mscdex.exe* and, *Oakcdrom.sys* will work:

[config.sys]

DEVICE = usb\aspiehci.sys /int /all
device=oakcdrom.sys /d:nightowl

LASTDRIVE = Z

[autoexe.bat]

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+08:00
GUEST.EXE
mscdex.exe /d:nightowl /l:z /m:16 /v

MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

(The above forces DOS to assign the drive letter Z:\ to the optical drive (using the switch */l:z*).  If you have two optical drives--this will fail because there is no drive letter available after Z:\--so both optical drives will be given the next available drive letter after the HDD's.  You can change */l:z* to */l:y* (or any other drive letter)--so now the first seen optical drive in DOS will get Y:\, and the second will get Z:\--but you need to know which will be seen first--and you need to adjust the drive letter you change to in the second to the last line in *autoexec.bat* (see further down) in order to load *ghost.exe* from the correct drive that was booted from!)

Step #3:  

For some versions of *Mouse.com*, it will fail to load when booting from a bootable CD unless there is a *mouse.ini* file with the boot files.  (I notice that your file listing does not have *mouse.ini* listed)  When using a floppy boot disk, *mouse.com* creates and writes *mouse.ini* to the floppy the first time you boot from it if it's needed--but with a boot CD--you can not write it to the *boot sector* like with the floppy boot disk.  

Now, if you have already used the boot floppies, and that file may already be on that first boot floppy, and if so, you should be able to simply copy it over.  If you need to, you can simply create it with Notepad.  Create a new document, add the following text:

[mouse]
MouseType=PS2


and save it as a text document with the name *mouse.ini*.  Place the file with the other boot files.

Step 4:

The Ghost boot floppy puts the *aspiehci.sys* file in a sub-directory */usb*--no real need for that unless you want to leave it that way.  So, you could place the *aspiehci.sys* file in the root directory with the other boot files, and change *config.sys* like this:

[config.sys]

DEVICE = usb\aspiehci.sys /int /all
DEVICE = aspiehci.sys /int /all

device=oakcdrom.sys /d:nightowl
LASTDRIVE = Z

Step 5:

Edit *autoexec.bat* so it finds *ghost.exe* in the data portion of the CD, whose drive letter will be Z:\ (again--on the Ghost boot disk, *ghost.exe* is placed in a sub-directory */Ghost*, but it's not necessary--just place it in the root directory):

[autoexec.bat]

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+08:00
GUEST.EXE
mscdex.exe /d:nightowl /l:z /m:16 /v
MOUSE.COM
echo Loading...
cls

z:
ghost.exe


Step 6:

So, final list of boot files for the boot sector:

aspiehci.sys
AUTOEXEC.BAT
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
guest.exe
IO.SYS
MOUSE.COM
mouse.ini
MSDOS.SYS
oakcdrom.sys
mscdex.exe

Final *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat*:

[config.sys]

DEVICE = aspiehci.sys /int /all
device=oakcdrom.sys /d:nightowl
LASTDRIVE = Z

[autoexec.bat]

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+08:00
GUEST.EXE
mscdex.exe /d:nightowl /l:z /m:16 /v
MOUSE.COM
z:
ghost.exe

Use the boot files to create the boot sector image using 1.44 MB boot sector size with WinImage, then use your burning program to create a bootable disc using that boot image, and include *ghost.exe* in the data portion of the disc that you are about to burn.

I'd recommend using a re-writeable disc!

Always best to press F8 just after the initial post of the system and it begins to load from the CD--select *step-by-step confirmation* to see the results of each DOS command line--this gives you a chance to write down any error messages before going to the next command line!

Coaster...or, success?  Questions?


 

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Reply #7 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 10:51pm
 
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>It would be of interest to see that *batch* file

   Ask And Ye Shall Receive:


Remember MY desktop box is Windows 98SE and my bud's Laptop

is Windows XP, so the "set comspec=c:\command.com" etc.

lines are only good for Windows 98SE.  Leave off for XP.


Restore From Hard drive:

Ghost Version: Corporate 7.5 I named GhostCE.exe

Floppy Contents...... (I'm not sure if all of these are
                      required, but it works 100%!)


Aspi2hlp.sys
Attrib.exe
Autoexec.bat
Chkdsk.exe
Command.com
Config.sys
Debug.exe
Drvspace.bin
Ebd.sys
Edit.com
Emm386.exe
GhostCE.exe
Himem.sys
Io.sys
Msdos.sys
Sys.com

Autoexec.bat.........This Auto Boots to my desktop after restore

@echo off
GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=G:\01_Ghost\Newest-1.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure
set comspec=c:\command.com
c:
cd\
set winbootdir=c:\windows
c:\windows\win.com


Config.sys...........

Device=HIMEM.SYS
Device=emm386.exe
**********************************************************
Restore From CD:

Floppy Contents......

aspi2dos.sys
aspi4dos.sys
aspi8dos.sys
aspi8u2.sys
aspicd.sys
Autoexec.bat
btcdrom.sys
btdosm.sys
Command.com
Config.sys
flashpt.sys
GhostCE.exe
Himem.sys
Io.sys
mscdex.exe
Msdos.sys
oakcdrom.sys

Autoexec.bat.........This Auto Boots to my desktop after restore

@echo off
LH \MSCDEX.EXE /D:cd1 /D:cd2 /D:cd3
GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=N:\CDR00001.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure
set comspec=c:\command.com
c:
cd\
set winbootdir=c:\windows
c:\windows\win.com

Config.sys...........

DEVICE = oakcdrom.sys /D:cd1
DEVICE = btcdrom.sys /D:cd2
LASTDRIVE=Z

**********************************************************
Make Image To Hard drive:

Ghost Version: Corporate 7.5 I named GhostCE.exe

Floppy Contents...... (I'm not sure if all of these are
                      required, but it works 100%!)

Attrib.exe
Autoexec.bat
Cd1.sys
Cd2.sys
Cd3.sys
Cd4.sys
Command.com
Config.sys
Debug.exe
Fdisk.exe
GhostCE.exe
Himem.sys
Io.sys
Label.exe
Mem.exe
Mscdex.exe
Msdos.sys
Sys.com

Autoexec.bat.........This Auto Boots to my desktop after making.
                    It also displays text as Ghost is loading.


REM        Ghost v7.5 Corporate Edition Will Now Make a C: Drive Image
REM
REM         To The G:\01_Ghost Folder With High Compression, Name It
REM
REM        Newest.gho, CRC Check It Twice, Then Boot The Computer.
REM
REM                 So, Go Make a Cup Of Coffee, Already!
@echo off
GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pdump,src=1:1,dst=G:\01_Ghost\Newest.gho -z3 -fx -sure
GhostCE.exe -chkimg,G:\01_Ghost\Newest.gho -sure
GhostCE.exe -chkimg,G:\01_Ghost\Newest.gho -sure
set comspec=c:\command.com
c:
cd\
set winbootdir=c:\windows
c:\windows\win.com


Config.sys...........

Empty
**********************************************************
Make Image To CD:

Ghost Version: Corporate 7.5 I named GhostCE.exe

Floppy Contents...... (I'm not sure if all of these are
                      required, but it works 100%!)

aspi2dos.sys
aspi4dos.sys
aspi8dos.sys
aspi8u2.sys
aspicd.sys
Autoexec.bat
btcdrom.sys
btdosm.sys
fxeject.exe
Command.com
Config.sys
flashpt.sys
GhostCE.exe
Himem.sys
Io.sys
mscdex.exe
Msdos.sys
oakcdrom.sys


Autoexec.bat.........This Auto Boots to my desktop after making.
                    It also displays text as Ghost is loading.


REM               This Is For Making a C: Drive CD-R Image File Only
REM
REM              Ghost v7.5 Corporate Edition Will Now Make a C: Drive
REM
REM              Image To The Z: Drive CD Burner With High Compression,
REM
REM                    Name It CDR00001.gho, CRC Check It Twice,
REM
REM                           Then Boot The Computer.
REM
REM                        So, Go Make a Sandwich, Already!
@echo off
GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pdump,src=1:1,dst=@CD1/CDR00001.gho -z3 -fx -sure
fxeject.exe -c
GhostCE.exe -chkimg,N:\CDR00001.gho -sure
GhostCE.exe -chkimg,N:\CDR00001.gho -sure
set comspec=c:\command.com
c:
cd\
set winbootdir=c:\windows
c:\windows\win.com

*Note about needing fxeject.exe.....

ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/cdrom/fxeject.zip

After you Burn a CD\DVD Image the tray will re-close itself

(Ghost auto-opens it) so Ghost can CRC Check the Image file

on the Disc.


Config.sys...........

DEVICE = oakcdrom.sys /D:cd1
DEVICE = btcdrom.sys /D:cd2
LASTDRIVE=Z
***********************************************************
Make an Image to Hard Drive AND to CD both:

Ghost Version: Corporate 7.5 I named GhostCE.exe

Floppy Contents...... (I'm not sure if all of these are
                      required, but it works 100%!)

aspi2dos.sys
aspi4dos.sys
aspi8dos.sys
aspi8u2.sys
aspicd.sys
Autoexec.bat
btcdrom.sys
btdosm.sys
fxeject.exe
Command.com
Config.sys
flashpt.sys
GhostCE.exe
Himem.sys
Io.sys
mscdex.exe
Msdos.sys
oakcdrom.sys


Autoexec.bat.........This Auto Boots to my desktop after making.
                    It also displays text as Ghost is loading.


REM            This Is For Making Both a CD-R & C: Drive Hard Drive Image File
REM
REM            Ghost v7.5 Corporate Edition Will Now Make a C: Drive Image To
REM
REM                The Z: Drive CD Burner With High Compression, Name It
REM
REM              CDR00001.gho And CRC Check It Twice.  Then It Will Make An
REM
REM            Image To The G:\01_Ghost Folder With High Compression, Name It
REM                                                             
REM                         Newest.gho, And CRC Check It Twice.
REM
REM                           The Computer Will Then Boot.
REM
REM            So, Go Make Your Dinner Already.  This Is Gonna Take Some Time.
@echo off
GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pdump,src=1:1,dst=@CD1/CDR00001.gho -z3 -fx -sure
fxeject.exe -c
GhostCE.exe -chkimg,N:\CDR00001.gho -sure
GhostCE.exe -chkimg,N:\CDR00001.gho -sure
GhostCE.exe -clone,mode=pdump,src=1:1,dst=G:\01_Ghost\Newest.gho -z3 -fx -sure
GhostCE.exe -chkimg,G:\01_Ghost\Newest.gho -sure
GhostCE.exe -chkimg,G:\01_Ghost\Newest.gho -sure
set comspec=c:\command.com
c:
cd\
set winbootdir=c:\windows
c:\windows\win.com


Config.sys...........

DEVICE = oakcdrom.sys /D:cd1
DEVICE = btcdrom.sys /D:cd2
LASTDRIVE=Z




>Are you able to open the CD tray on a laptop before you
turn it on?

   No I was turning it on, popping the CD tray and shutting

   it off, loading disc, etc...


>In order to use a 2.88 MB boot image, your CD burning
program has to support that as an option

   It does, but with what you said earlier about Ghost

   only seeing 1.44, and the ability of my Nero to put the

   Ghost.exe on another part of the CD, I'll just use 1.44.


>Is E:\ drive a HDD partition.....

   Yes.  When I boot Windows XP, ( with INTERNAL drive

   letters C: to G: ) the EXTERNAL drive shows drive

   letters H, I, J, K, L & M.


>(I presume to store and pull Ghost images off of them?)

   The external will have a dupe of the Internal drive

   (for if/when the internal gets nuked) plus an additional

   partition (M) for future added files.  When I add another

   Ghost Image to E: Drive, I'll copy it to the J: Drive

   using Windows Explorer.



Now for the results of the Boot CD making.  Drum Roll, Please!


OK, taking your suggestions, my 1st Boot CD works great!

The Bootcdp1.ima contents:

Aspiehci.sys
AUTOEXEC.BAT
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
Guest.exe
IO.SYS
MOUSE.COM
MOUSE.INI
MSCDEX.EXE
MSDOS.SYS


AUTOEXEC.BAT..........

@echo off
Set TZ=GHO+08:00
Guest.exe
Mscdex.exe /d:nightowl /l:z /m:16 /v
Mouse.com
Z:
Ghost03.exe



CONFIG.SYS...........

DEVICE = Aspiehci.sys /int /all
Device=Oakcdrom.sys /d:nightowl
LASTDRIVE = Z


This will boot & see USB external Hard Drive and load Ghost

and I can manually use it as I always have and I have access

to the Philips CD Burner.


OK, modifying your suggestions, my "Holy Grail" 2nd Boot CD

(Really a "Make" CD) works as good as the 1st!

The Bootcdp1.ima contents:


Aspiehci.sys
AUTOEXEC.BAT
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
Guest.exe
IO.SYS
MOUSE.COM
MOUSE.INI
MSCDEX.EXE
MSDOS.SYS


AUTOEXEC.BAT..........

@echo off
Set TZ=GHO+08:00
Guest.exe
Mscdex.exe /d:Big_Al's /l:z /m:16 /v
Mouse.com
Z:
Ghost03.exe -clone,mode=pdump,src=1:1,dst=E:\01_Ghost\Newest.gho -z3 -fx -sure
Ghost03.exe -chkimg,E:\01_Ghost\Newest.gho -sure
Ghost03.exe -chkimg,E:\01_Ghost\Newest.gho -sure



CONFIG.SYS...........

DEVICE = Aspiehci.sys /int /all
Device=Oakcdrom.sys /d:Big_Al's
LASTDRIVE = Z


This will boot & see USB external Hard Drive,

make a C: Drive Image named Newest.gho at 600+ MPM,

dump it in the E:\01_Ghost Folder, and

CRC Check it twice at 1900+ MPM (no typo, 1900+!!).

At the conclusion, I get a Z: prompt.

Y'all did it AGAIN, NightOwl.  You Da MANNNNN!!!!!!


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Re: STILL Can't Get Ghost 2003 Boot CD To Work
Reply #8 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 11:46pm
 
Big_Al

Glad to hear it worked--I had not tested it as yet--so I wasn't sure if I had left anything out.

And thanks for sharing your *Batch* files--those are interesting!  I did not know that Ghost would return to the *autoexec.bat* sequence after it executed the command line for its procedure--now I see how you are booting to your desktop after a Ghost procedure!  I suspect you can use that technique on this new bootable CD if you can find a dos command to *open* the CD tray after Ghost is done!  (Just downloaded that DOS program you mentioned for *closing* the tray--it has an *open* command also!)

Some systems will have something to the effect *Hit any key in order to boot from the CD.....*, and if you don't hit a key, after a short wait period--it *automatically* boots to the HDD's OS rather than booting from a bootable CD.

Couple other questions:

1.  What CD burning program are you using that allows for the 2.88 MB boot sector?

2.  Did you have to *manually* click through the initial *licensing* nag screen at the beginning of Ghost's loading?

3.  When you perform the CRC checking (Integrity check)--how do you know if the image is good or fails the test?



(P.S.  You do realize that changing the line:

*Device=Oakcdrom.sys /d:nightowl*

to:

*Device=Oakcdrom.sys /d:Big_Al's*

will make your CD drive *burn out*   Grin !)
 

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Reply #9 - Jun 15th, 2006 at 4:34pm
 
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>And thanks for sharing your *Batch* files--those are
interesting!

     You are entirely welcome, Oh Guru Of Ghost.  That's

     the good part about being a lazy SOB, you look for

     shortcuts wherever you can find them, and batch files

     are KING!


>now I see how you are booting to your desktop after a Ghost
procedure!

     Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

>I suspect you can use that technique on this new bootable CD.

     ONLY if you are running NON Windows XP.  Remember we

     discussed a while ago about booting to desktop from DOS

     with XP, and the bottom line was that it was impossible?


>Just downloaded that DOS program you mentioned....

     I thought you'd enjoy that little bit of fluff!   Cheesy

     WHY Ghost doesn't give you an option as to whether you WANT

     to pop the tray (or WHEN) is beyond moi!


>Couple other questions:

>1.  What CD burning program are you using that allows for
     the 2.88 MB boot sector?


     Nero v5.5.10.15


>2.  Did you have to *manually* click through the initial
     *licensing* nag screen at the beginning of Ghost's
     loading?


     With the 1st CD, if the external is attached, I get

     the screen about "Marking Drives".  I never allow that.

     No real reason, just seems a bit "Big Brotherish".

     After clicking it, I get another screen that I just

     have to click "OK" and then I use Ghost manually as I

     always have been able to.


     With the 2nd CD, if the external is attached, I get the

     screen about "Marking Drives".  After clicking it, the

     Image creation to E: Drive proceeds as normal, along with

     the two auto-CRC Checks.


     WIthOUT the external attached, the 1st CD gives me a

     screen that I just have to click "OK".


     With the 2nd (Make CD), I don't gatta do nuttin'!  I

     pop in the CD and boot 'er up and go make coffee.

     After the Image is made, I get a Z: Prompt.


>3.  When you perform the CRC checking (Integrity check)--
     how do you know if the image is good or fails the test?

     Have you ever had a CRC Check fail?  When it does,

     everything stops DEAD and you get a "Failed" mini-screen

     and your blood runs REAL cold!  Embarrassed


>(P.S.  You do realize that changing the line:.....

     Burn, Baby, Burn!   Grin  Grin

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Reply #10 - Jun 16th, 2006 at 11:35am
 
Big_Al

Now that you have created a successful bootable CD--could you share where things were going *wrong* with your initial attempts that caused you to create *coasters*?

You have mentioned attempting to use the 2.88 MB boot sector--which in theory should work okay--can you determine where you were having the difficulty?
 

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