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Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9
Aug 12^th, 2006 at 1:45pm

Thanks to all the help I got here I bought Ghost 9 early this week. I'm going to have some questions but I'll post them one at a time.

I installed Ghost 9 and made a complete image early this week. Now I want to make just an incremental backup, but can't figure out how? It only seems to want to do a complete backup. Also, I don't want to make these incrementals on a schedule, just when I decide I want to backup. Can somebody who uses 9 tell me how to do this?

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Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9
Reply #1 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 2:59pm

First, create a Scheduled Backup, "A baseline Backup". Not a full independent backup. For the schedule select "No schedule (save for later)". You can then run this job anytime by selecting it, right click, "run now".

Second, create a separate scheduled Incremental Backup, see page 39 of the Ghost 9 manual for incremental, and again, select "no schedule". You can run this job anytime by selecting it, right click, "run now".

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Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9
Reply #2 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 3:10pm

John. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2006 at 2:59pm:

Second, create a separate scheduled Incremental Backup, see page 39 of the Ghost 9 manual for incremental, and again, select "no schedule". You can run this job anytime by selecting it, right click, "run now".

The manual says
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To schedule a backup image
1 In the basic view of the Norton Ghost window, click
Tools > Schedule Incremental Backups.

My "Tools" menu does not have a "Schedule Incremental Backups" option. I think if it had I could have figured this out myself.

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	Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9 Reply #3 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 3:20pm Did you create/define your first one as "Base with Incrmentals"?
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	Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9 Reply #4 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 3:22pm Here's my "Tools" menu
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	Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9 Reply #5 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 3:25pm John. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2006 at 3:20pm: Did you create/define your first one as "Base with Incrmentals"? I don't remember it giving me that option.
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	Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9 Reply #6 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 3:28pm You may have to start over again. There are two options when you Create Backup Job: * Base with Incrementals * Full Backup You might have to use a different target folder, or delete all the other backups there when you start over with Base with Incrementals.
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	Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9 Reply #7 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 3:37pm After starting over with a new definition and backup type of Base with Incrementals, save it without any schedule.
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Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9
Reply #8 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 3:47pm

i_am_jim wrote on Aug 12^th, 2006 at 1:45pm:

Now I want to make just an incremental backup,

i_am_jim,

This is how I've done it. Switch from the Basic to the Advanced View (right pane is white).

In Backup Tasks, click Create Backup Job.

The wizard starts. Click Next
choose Base with Incrementals
Next
select the drive to backup
Next
browse to a Backup Location
Next
dot in No schedule
Next
Compression Standard (or your choice)
tick in Verify backup image after creation
no other ticks
don't click Advanced
Next
tick in Create the first backup now if that is what you want, otherwise you can create the first backup later
Finish

When you want to run a backup, click the Backup Jobs tab
Right click your backup job and click Run Job Now
You will see these three choices
1 A Full independent backup
2 A baseline backup
3 An incremental backup of recent changes

Choose and click OK

The Ghost 9 wizard (at this point) is different from Ghost 10 and I think is easier to understand. With Ghost 10 there is no option to create a new Baseline backup. You have to start the Wizard again.

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	Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9 Reply #9 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 4:02pm John. wrote on Aug 12^th, 2006 at 3:28pm: You may have to start over again. . . . You might have to use a different target folder, or delete all the other backups there when you start over . . I'm beginning to understand why this isn't a more popular application. A complete backup takes a long time.
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Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9
Reply #10 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 4:11pm

i_am_jim wrote on Aug 12^th, 2006 at 4:02pm:

A complete backup takes a long time.

The bigger the C drive, the bigger the backup image. I mentioned before that I can do a standard compression backup in 5 minutes.

Also it depends on where you are sending the backup image. Imaging to a second HD is three times faster than imaging to a partition on the same HD.

Imaging with Nil compression is three times faster than imaging with High compression. Standard compression is only marginally slower than Nil compression.

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Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9
Reply #11 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 4:13pm

Brian wrote on Aug 12^th, 2006 at 3:47pm:

When you want to run a backup, click the Backup Jobs tab
Right click your backup job and click Run Job Now
You will see these three choices
1 A Full independent backup
2 A baseline backup
3 An incremental backup of recent changes

Correct. That choice wasn't on the PC that I have that has Ghost 9 on it; only A Full independent backup, because that was how I initially defined it. (just reverified that after defining a new "Base with incrementals" backup job)

But if you initially define the backup as base with incrementals, then you'll get all 3 choices.

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Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9
Reply #12 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 4:49pm

Brian wrote on Aug 12^th, 2006 at 4:11pm:

Also it depends on where you are sending the backup image. Imaging to a second HD is three times faster than imaging to a partition on the same HD.

I am backing up to an independent drive. But, it's been going for about 2 hours and looks like it's only a third done.

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Imaging with Nil compression is three times faster than imaging with High compression. Standard compression is only marginally slower than Nil compression.

I'm using standard compression but I'm considering using no compression if that means I can read the files without Ghost.

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	Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9 Reply #13 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 5:01pm i_am_jim wrote on Aug 12^th, 2006 at 4:49pm: I am backing up to an independent drive. Sorry, what do you mean? I'd stick with Standard compression. Nil compression produces a larger image file and is only slightly faster. Image creation to a second HD should be slightly less than 1 GB/minute.
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Re: Making an Incremental B/U with Ghost 9
Reply #14 - Aug 12^th, 2006 at 6:16pm

Brian wrote on Aug 12^th, 2006 at 5:01pm:

Sorry, what do you mean?

A different drive than the one the partition being back up is on and different than the one Ghost is on.

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I'd stick with Standard compression. Nil compression produces a larger image file and is only slightly faster.

I assume from your reply it is not readable without Ghost?

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Image creation to a second HD should be slightly less than 1 GB/minute.

It just went belly up. On 70 gigs it ran for about 3 hours and then belched up this message
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Backup of C:\D:\ did not complete successfully. Error E7C3000F: Device \\. \PQV2iSnapShot1 cannot read 4.096 sectors starting at LBA 77,505,830. Error 0000045D: The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error (0xE7C3000F)

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