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Video Scrambled after making NightOwl Boot CD??
May 13th, 2007 at 9:04pm
 
Greetings,
  I tried searching through the topics but could not find any answers. My problem:

I followed the step by step guide on how to make an image file then create a boot cd. my computer is as follows( just installed everything)

MOBO -- DFI Infinity 975
CPU —E6600
Heatsink/NB Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme / HR-05SLI
RAM —OCZ Plat. Rev 2 2x1gb
VIDEO -- Sapphire X1950XT 256MB
CASE -- Lian LiPC-70USB
PSU -- OCZ POWERSTREAM 600W
HDD —2 Seagate SATA 400GB
DVD -- Sony, PX-760A
PERIPHERALS -- Razor Copperhead & XactMat
Monitor Iiyama 22" 512Pro
Bios

   Now my mouse is USB and my Graphics card is PCI-E I am not sure if this makes a difference. However, my goal was to make an image of my C:\ drive with the windows install  and place it on my hard drive. Then to do one of 3 things.
A. Burn it to DVD
B. Keep the Image file on the SATA drive to use the image if needed
C. Put the image on the USB Drive so that I can log in and extract the image in ghost DOS as needed.

So in essence what am I doing wrong? And if I am not doing anything wrong what are some possible solutions and what can I do to extract this image in the future from my USB Drive?

Thanks a lot for your Help!

EDIT: I ran the PC-DOS from Ghost 2003 in windows and it rebooted to it fine. However it did not read the separate partitions on my C:| drive. considering I only need to image 5GB worth and not 100. What do you suggest?
 

MOBO -- DFI NF4 Ultra D&&CPU -- Venice 3200&&RAM -- Ram OCZ Winbond model 4x512 &&VIDEO -- Sapphire X1950XT 256MB&&CASE -- Lian LiPC-70USB&&PSU -- OCZ POWERSTREAM 600W&&HDD -- 1 Seagate PATA 400GB 1 W
 
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Re: Video Scrambled after making NightOwl Boot CD?
Reply #1 - May 14th, 2007 at 9:18am
 
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So, is the problem that the bootable CD works, but your monitor screen is messed up when you attempt to boot to DOS from it?

That usually suggests that there is a software conflict between the DOS boot files and the hardware requirements that load various *drivers* via the BIOS during boot.

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Now my mouse is USB and my Graphics card is PCI-E I am not sure if this makes a difference.

It might--in order for your USB mouse to show up in DOS--if you are not loading DOS USB drivers with your boot files--then the BIOS has to be loading support--and that support may be conflicting with the other required memory allocation for other devices such as the graphics card.

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I ran the PC-DOS from Ghost 2003 in windows and it rebooted to it fine.

So, the monitor was not scrambled?!  When you use the Windows Ghost interface, there is usually a summary of what you have set up just before you tell Ghost to proceed to re-boot to DOS--if you review that summary--is Ghost loading *himem.sys* as part of the process?

If you don't see a summary above, you should be able to go to the Windows Ghost intro screen and select *Norton Ghost/Ghost Basic/View Log*--the summary there should list the *config.sys* file--is *himem.sys* listed as one of the boot files.

*himem.sys* is a DOS memory manager that may help prevent DOS boot files from crashing into each other and over-writing boot code--and possibly causing scrambled video output.

Another possible troubleshooting test--can you substitute a serial mouse for the USB mouse--at least for testing?  May have to disable *Legacy USB Support* in the BIOS also to see if the conflict is there.  You can still navigate in DOS Ghost using the *Tab* key, and the keyboard *arrow* keys.

Let us know what you find out!
 

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Re: Video Scrambled after making NightOwl Boot CD?
Reply #2 - May 14th, 2007 at 10:03am
 
NightOwl wrote on May 14th, 2007 at 9:18am:

Quote:
Video Scrambled after making NightOwl Boot CD??


So, is the problem that the bootable CD works, but your monitor screen is messed up when you attempt to boot to DOS from it?

That usually suggests that there is a software conflict between the DOS boot files and the hardware requirements that load various *drivers* via the BIOS during boot.

     Actually, the bootable cd works fine, the problem is when it loads up ghost 2003 I get the scrambled video. If you can visualize the grey box picture that box looking Blue grey, white, and black with no text being coherent.

NightOwl wrote on May 14th, 2007 at 9:18am:

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Now my mouse is USB and my Graphics card is PCI-E I am not sure if this makes a difference.

It might--in order for your USB mouse to show up in DOS--if you are not loading DOS USB drivers with your boot files--then the BIOS has to be loading support--and that support may be conflicting with the other required memory allocation for other devices such as the graphics card.

     I can live with just the keyboard its not too difficult for me. I just was wondering in the future since I am making the disk via a CD (1.44mb on 766mb lol) if there was a way to add more options.

NightOwl wrote on May 14th, 2007 at 9:18am:
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I ran the PC-DOS from Ghost 2003 in windows and it rebooted to it fine.

So, the monitor was not scrambled?!  When you use the Windows Ghost interface, there is usually a summary of what you have set up just before you tell Ghost to proceed to re-boot to DOS--if you review that summary--is Ghost loading *himem.sys* as part of the process?

If you don't see a summary above, you should be able to go to the Windows Ghost intro screen and select *Norton Ghost/Ghost Basic/View Log*--the summary there should list the *config.sys* file--is *himem.sys* listed as one of the boot files.

*himem.sys* is a DOS memory manager that may help prevent DOS boot files from crashing into each other and over-writing boot code--and possibly causing scrambled video output.

Another possible troubleshooting test--can you substitute a serial mouse for the USB mouse--at least for testing?  May have to disable *Legacy USB Support* in the BIOS also to see if the conflict is there.  You can still navigate in DOS Ghost using the *Tab* key, and the keyboard *arrow* keys.
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     No the monitor was not scrambled when I ran the ghost interface which goes from windows to DOS. It was crystal clear and had no issues.
When I get home I will run it again and will try to push f8 fast enough so that I can write down everything its running. I believe it usb drivers, and some other drivers. I also made an image of the 10GB windows partition with the ghost pc-dos which I setup from windows. However, when I tried setting it up in the PC-Dos it would not allow me to specify which partition to image. Yet, in windows ghost 2003 lets me choose which partition to image.in dos.
     Will write more when I get home. Thanks for your help!
 

MOBO -- DFI NF4 Ultra D&&CPU -- Venice 3200&&RAM -- Ram OCZ Winbond model 4x512 &&VIDEO -- Sapphire X1950XT 256MB&&CASE -- Lian LiPC-70USB&&PSU -- OCZ POWERSTREAM 600W&&HDD -- 1 Seagate PATA 400GB 1 W
 
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Re: Video Scrambled after making NightOwl Boot CD?
Reply #3 - May 15th, 2007 at 1:08pm
 
ne ideas
 

MOBO -- DFI NF4 Ultra D&&CPU -- Venice 3200&&RAM -- Ram OCZ Winbond model 4x512 &&VIDEO -- Sapphire X1950XT 256MB&&CASE -- Lian LiPC-70USB&&PSU -- OCZ POWERSTREAM 600W&&HDD -- 1 Seagate PATA 400GB 1 W
 
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