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Clone versus Backup
Aug 2nd, 2007 at 8:28pm
 
I have been beating my head against the wall to use NG12 to create a clone like I could with NG2003. Reading threads on this MB, I think I am getting closer. Then I read that Brian doesn't think it is a good idea.

I would like to understand the backup strategy versus clone (as a backup).  To me, the advantage of a full copy (clone) is avoiding the reinstallation of a few dozen applications when I have a serious problem with my primary HDD.

I'd love to hear readers' thoughts.
 
 
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Re: Clone versus Backup
Reply #1 - Aug 2nd, 2007 at 9:50pm
 
just want to get straight terminology.

when most ppl use term 'clone' they're talking about transferring contents of one drive/partition/disk to another .. no image file is created during cloning.

.. as opposed to creating an image (which can also be called a clone, tho i prefer not to use it that way).

which are you referring to?

i prefer creating an image.
 
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Reply #2 - Aug 2nd, 2007 at 10:33pm
 
cnestg8r,

Since your head is aching let's start with some background information. Remember, Ghost 12 calls an image a "Recovery Point".

What is the difference between an "image" and a "clone"?

http://www.goodells.net/multiboot/notes.htm#14



Why cloning isn't as smart as imaging.(Reply #7)

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11329...



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To me, the advantage of a full copy (clone) is avoiding the reinstallation of a few dozen applications when I have a serious problem with my primary HDD.


This is what a recovery point can do. Restore your OS to the same state as when the recovery point was created. No applications need be installed.



If you do want to clone, Ghost 12 uses the same settings as Ghost 9.

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11175...


What can go wrong? A list of user mistakes.

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11482...

 
 
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Reply #3 - Aug 3rd, 2007 at 4:43am
 
Thanks much for the quick response from NSW. I will study all of the links today, but the promise of using  images and avoiding the pain of reinstallation is encouraging. With this insight even some of the Ghost documenation begins to make more sense.

I will give you some feedback after I study and try this new way of thinking.
 
 
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Reply #4 - Aug 3rd, 2007 at 9:49am
 
g8r wrote on Aug 2nd, 2007 at 8:28pm:
"... I'd love to hear readers' thoughts..."
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"... Paratroopers and parachutists carry two parachutes.  The primary parachute is called a main parachute, the secondary is called a reserve parachute.  The jumper uses the reserve if the main parachute fails to deploy or operate correctly..."

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Reply #5 - Aug 3rd, 2007 at 11:56am
 
g8r wrote on Aug 3rd, 2007 at 4:43am:
With this insight even some of the Ghost documenation begins to make more sense. I study and try this new way of thinking.


Good.
 
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Reply #6 - Aug 3rd, 2007 at 8:55pm
 
OK - here it goes.

I was happy with NG2003. I valued a "cloned" backup and it saved me a few times. I bought v7.0 and then v9.0 to take advantage of the latest features. I NEVER got either one to do what I expected.

I thought 12.0 would be different? why?? Well I was disapppointed again.

Persistence led me to your forum. It took a different vocabulary, but Norton didn't communicate it to the public. IMHO

This forum rocks. I learned much more than expected. You are right, why clone?

I started with a good disk and made a recovery point on a second disk. I then installed a third disk in the C drive and used an SRD to build a third disk now installed in the c:\ location. I got the clone I wanted, and have a recovery point disk to go foward.

Just as you recommended. It took me a few years, but now I understand and am a convert.

MANY THANKS!
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Reply #7 - Aug 4th, 2007 at 3:09am
 
cnestg8r,

Have you tested that the Ghost Recovery CD works with your system?

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1183435692
 
 
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Reply #8 - Aug 4th, 2007 at 6:57am
 
Yes. The drive I am working from was created using my recovery CD and my recovery point on a USB tether.

Thanks to the forum. In hind site, Symantec could have communicated the transition more clearly, but the product works. I guess they wanted to keep it secret. LOL
 
 
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