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Recovering Hidden Partitions / Unused space - Ghost 2003 (Read 5565 times)
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Recovering Hidden Partitions / Unused space - Ghost 2003
Aug 18
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, 2007 at 11:07pm
Here is an interesting article---
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14597
Unused space on hard drives recovered?
Interesting results to date:
Western Digital 200GB SATA
Yield after recovery: 510GB of space
IBM Deskstar 80GB EIDE
Yield after recovery: 150GB of space
Maxtor 40GB EIDE
Yield after recovery: 80GB
Seagate 20GB EIDE
Yield after recovery: 30GB
Unknown laptop 80GB HDD
Yield: 120GB
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Re: Recovering Hidden Partitions / Unused space - Ghost 2003
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Aug 19
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Rama,
That's interesting. I assume these HDs contained large Host Protected Areas. These areas can be removed even from empty HDs to recover the full HD size. Tools that can be used are...
Hitachi Feature Tool
MHDD
HDAT2
Dell laptops formerly used a HPA of a few GB for MediaDirect2. Just removing the HPA wasn't enough. You had to zero LBA-3 as well, otherwise the HPA would be recreated at the next boot.
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Re: Recovering Hidden Partitions / Unused space - Ghost 2003
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Aug 19
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Ugh, I remember when this came out. Be sure to check the follow-up letters, which explain (correctly) that the author of the article is just working with partitions that overlap each other and thus will eventually get corrupted.
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Re: Recovering Hidden Partitions / Unused space - Ghost 2003
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Aug 19
th
, 2007 at 10:03am
On a related theme, the article
Hard Disk Sector Structures
explains that a disk sector "actually holds much more than 512 bytes of information. Additional bytes are needed for control structures, information necessary to manage the drive, locate data and perform other functions."
What else do the forum members know about these "control structures"? I have been unable to find any more details on the Seagate website or elsewhere.
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Aug 19
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, 2007 at 11:19am
Recently when I ran Gdisk, it recognized the hidden area in the disk called HPA. Then I used the freeware HPA.EXE to delete the HPA and recover the usable area. Then I reformatted the drive and everything worked ok. Gdisk is part of the Ghost suite.
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Aug 19
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, 2007 at 4:32pm
Pleonasm wrote
on Aug 19
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, 2007 at 10:03am:
What else do the forum members know about these "control structures"? I have been unable to find any more details on the Seagate website or elsewhere.
He's more talking there about the classic on-disk layout used by disk controllers in the MFM days, when the on-disk layout was pretty much a simple one-to-one mapping with what you told the controller and you needed to be reasonably aware of the sync/address/gap fields. Folks worrying about sector interleaves was another product of this era.
I don't think I still have any of my 1970's disk controller chip manuals to point you at (if I do, they are buried in the stacks) but they explained the low-level formatting process in some detail. By the time the PC arrived the disk controller chips had taken more of this process on themselves during low-level track formatting so you want to refer to hardware more primitive than that (or else look at the group-code recording used by the Apple ][ and Amiga, since it's roughly similar).
However, the sheer number of layers of interface abstraction present these days means that you really can't talk about those kinds of structures any more - to the extent they even still do exist, you can't get at them. And that's a good thing, mostly.
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Rama wrote
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Then I used the freeware HPA.EXE to delete the HPA and recover the usable area. Then I reformatted the drive and everything worked ok.
Rama, was this a Dell laptop with MediaDirect?
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