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Windows 7 + Ghost 8 Bart PE
Aug 13th, 2009 at 6:30am
 
Hi All

What with the release of Windows 7 in the next few weeks, I am having the lovely task of trying to take successful ghost images.

I am able to make the image using Ghost 8, however when the image is restored to the same machine I receive the error of inaccessible boot device 0x0000000e

I have a feeling that this is similar to Vista where the BCD needed to be edited prior to taking the image.

Can anyone help me with the correct commands to use ?

The installation of Windows 7 is a basic vanilla install.
It is the release version from the MSVL site.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: Windows 7 + Ghost 8 Bart PE
Reply #1 - Aug 13th, 2009 at 8:21am
 
Gav,

I tried to reproduce your results but my Win7 booted normally. I must be lucky.

I think a BootIt NG BCD Edit would enable your Win7 to boot. It works when Ghost 2003 fails to restore a Vista image correctly.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=318
 
 
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Re: Windows 7 + Ghost 8 Bart PE
Reply #2 - Aug 13th, 2009 at 9:41am
 
Hi Brian,

Thanks for the reply.
I'll take a look at this tool.

I need to successfully image Windows 7, without the need for intervention post deployment.

The images are used as test platforms for software to each machine is regularly 'ghosted'.
The testers are capable of ghosting the images up but I want to avoid another process for them.

What copy of Ghost are you using and did you enable any particular switches ?

I made my image by selecting 'local disk to image'

It is possible to boot from the Win 7 DVD and carry out the repair, but as I say we want to eliminate the extra process.

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Reply #3 - Aug 13th, 2009 at 3:40pm
 
gavinh wrote on Aug 13th, 2009 at 9:41am:
I need to successfully image Windows 7, without the need for intervention post deployment.

Gav, I understand. These lines were popular before I first tried Vista and I've never used them. At an Administrator Command Prompt enter....

bcdedit /set {default} device boot <ENTER>
bcdedit /set {default} osdevice boot <ENTER>
bcdedit /set {bootmgr} device boot <ENTER>
bcdedit /set {memdiag} device boot <ENTER>

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What copy of Ghost are you using and did you enable any particular switches ?

I made my image by selecting 'local disk to image'

Ghost 8.2, from Windows and DOS. No switches.
I used 'local partition to image'

gavinh wrote on Aug 13th, 2009 at 9:41am:
It is possible to boot from the Win 7 DVD and carry out the repair, 


Yes, but Dan Goodell says that BING BCD Edit works in the cases when Vista DVD fails. BCD Edit is much faster to use than the Vista DVD.
 
 
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Reply #4 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 2:42am
 
I'll have to try creating the image with 'partition to image' and see what results I get.

I'll check what revision of Ghost I am using. I know its 8 but not sure what 'point' revision.

Thanks for your help Brian.
If anyone else can add anything please do.

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Reply #5 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 2:48am
 
I've used Ghost 2003 to image/restore Win7. No problems. My hardware must be kind to imaging software. I've never had a failed restore.
 
 
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Reply #6 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 5:21am
 
Hi Brian,

When you say you created your Image by 'partition to image'
Did you select both partitions (Installation + Recovery partition) or just the Installation data.

I'm just trying some different methods now to see if I can get a working method.

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Reply #7 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 5:28am
 
Gav,

I just selected the Win7 OS partition for the image. C: drive.

It was on a test computer with about 6 different OS.
 
 
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Reply #8 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 5:50am
 
I just tried making the image by 'partition to image'
Upon restoring the image I get a non bootable machine.

In the PE  environment I can see that the data is mounted as C:

I tried running BCDEDIT from C:\Windows\System32 but it fails with the following :

'Boot configuration store cannot be opened, Cannot find message text for message number. 0X%1 in the message file for %2'

 
 
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Reply #9 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 6:03am
 
Gav,

Want to try Image for DOS? There is a one month trial. It should work every time. Unlike Ghost 8, it is certified for Win7.

I've been using IFD and IFW for the last 2 years.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-dos-ss.htm





 
 
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Reply #10 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 6:30am
 
I can't easily move away from Ghost as I have about 50 Pc's with numerous images setup in the company.

The good thing about Ghost and BartPE is the networking support as all the images are stored on a server. Moving away from this would be a logistical nightmare.

I have just ghosted back up one of my images I made and had the same inaccessible boot device.
After restarting in BartPE i was able to edit the BCD and get it to boot into windows.

If only I could do this prior to making the image like in Vista..


Thinking about this logically

If there is something out there that would do this without the need of an OS much like BartPE that isn't Ghost we could use that for the Win 7 images.
I need to have network support as all the images are stored on a server.


 
 
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Reply #11 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 3:52pm
 
gavinh wrote on Aug 14th, 2009 at 6:30am:
I can't easily move away from Ghost as I have about 50 Pc's with numerous images setup in the company.

Have you tried Ghost 11.5?
 
 
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Reply #12 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 2:46am
 
No I haven't. Is it any better and can it still be used as a bootable CD with Networking ?

The PC's need to be ghosted without traces of additional software so the method of using a bootable CD prior to an OS is the best method for our situation.

I guess its still early and people haven't had a chance to play with Ghost and Win 7 properly yet.

I'm guessing they must have made some changes to the BCD in this revision but not sure what has changed to cause this not to work any more.
 
 
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Reply #13 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 3:02am
 
gavinh wrote on Aug 17th, 2009 at 2:46am:
No I haven't.


Neither have I.

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Re: Windows 7 + Ghost 8 Bart PE
Reply #14 - Aug 17th, 2009 at 9:20am
 
I have downloaded a trial version of 'Ghost solution suite 2.5' from the Symantec website to trial the support of Windows 7.

I am able to create the 'WinPE boot disk' with enough drivers to enable network support, and can create the image to a network share which is exactly what I need to do. The problem comes when I try to restore the image file that was created.
The WinPE CD and Ghost says it can only restore an image created by the trial version but it doesn't attempt to do the restore.
Am I doing something wrong ?

I just want to do bare metal backups and restores, I don't wish to use all the other functionality bundled in with the suite.
 
 
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