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Reply #15 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 3:51am
 
That is correct,tried 5-6 times.

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Reply #16 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 4:03am
 
Does the full WinXP CD boot in the notebook? Any other CDs that don't boot? BING CD must boot as you have it installed.
 
 
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Reply #17 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 4:15am
 
Full WinXp Boots fine. Don't have any other bootable CDs.

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Reply #18 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 4:29am
 
Is the full WinXP suitable for your purposes?
 
 
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Reply #19 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 4:37am
 
Not sure I was just following the tutorial. I have some equipment that will run on the 64bit vista and others that are XP only. I like the idea of faster boot times. Got to get some sleep talk to you tomorrow.,
Thanks for the help I feel like I am making progress now.
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Reply #20 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 4:46am
 
I don't understand why your nLite CD boots on one computer and not another. Maybe make another CD using a different CD brand?

You only need to do one basic WinXP install (when you get a CD that works) and you can then make 6 clones in BING. That's the fast way to do it.
 
 
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Reply #21 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 1:04pm
 
I will try another brand tonight.

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Reply #22 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 3:32pm
 
If you can't get the nLite one working, at least you know that you can install the full version.

Read up on unlimited primaries in BING. That will make your life much easier when you start using multiple WinXP OS. Basically you just remove the tick from Limit Primaries in Settings. The Boot Menus will then be easier to setup as you only need 1 or 2 items in each MBR. Are you planning to have a common data partition? It is a good idea as it can be seen from all OS.

This is how Tom Pfeifer from TeraByte sets up his boot items.

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The generalized disk layout I use
for n operating systems on a mixed Windows/Linux system looks something
like this (it's probably similar to what quite a few BING users do):

Primary-1  Windows or Linux
Primary-2  Windows or Linux
Primary-3  Windows or Linux
Primary-n  Windows or Linux
Free Space for additional primaries if/when needed
Extended
-- Volume-1 Linux swap
-- Volume-2 data/storage
-- Volume-n data/storage
Free Space to expand extended partition if/when needed
Primary for BING (can also be at beginning of drive)


- Each OS is installed to a Primary, 1 thru n. Because the OS partition
  is always put in the first MBR slot in Boot Edit, it is *always*
  partition 1 to Linux and Windows, and (hd0,0) to Grub

- Each boot item is set up like this (example uses Primary-1):
   MBR Slot 0 = Primary-1
   MBR Slot 1 = Extended
   MBR Slot 2 = None (optionally can contain another primary)
   MBR Slot 3 = None (optionally can contain another primary)

- The Linux swap is the first volume in the extended partition. The
  remaining volumes in the extended partition can contain items needed
  to be available from any/all OSes. On mine, they are a mix of FAT32
  and Linux volumes.

When installing an OS, the key thing is that you need to first set up
the boot item for it, and then boot it from the BING menu. The boot will
fail since there's no OS there yet. But doing that will load the MBR
with the partitions as set up in Boot Edit, so that the installer will
see them that same way. Right after the boot attempt (without booting
anything else), just reboot from the install CD and start the installation.


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Reply #23 - Sep 4th, 2009 at 4:56am
 
My Mistake, full XP instal attempt resulted in...

" a problem has been detected and windows shut down to protect your computer remove new s-ware, check for viruses, check HD config, run CHKDSK ect then restart"

Tech info:
*** STOP: 0X0000007b (0Xf78D663C, 0xc0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

I have the factory back up discs for the HP, do you think it would be a good idea to use
copy wipe then install BING and the nilte XP disc? Or do I sound like a amateur
grasping at straws? ( I am definitely a amateur)

I did try to look for the correct AMD drivers on there site but could not make heads or
tales of their terminology. David at t-byte said the ones on the XP disc should work, if I understood him properly.

What do you think?

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Reply #24 - Sep 4th, 2009 at 5:16am
 
A 7B Stop error is usually due to missing storage controller drivers. SATA.
I'm not familiar with AMD drivers. Sorry.

I wouldn't bother with wiping the HD etc. Your problem is getting a WinXP CD that works.

Do you have a BIOS mode (? ATA) that lets you install WinXP without controller drivers? But that mode may stop your Vista from booting. Are you using AHCI/SATA?
 
 
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Reply #25 - Sep 4th, 2009 at 8:32am
 
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A 7B Stop error is usually due to missing storage controller drivers. SATA

If that's the case--shouldn't we go back to the beginning and make sure the correct HDD controller drivers are being downloaded and slipstreamed to the new installation CD?

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Can you show us the link to the download for the HDD controller drivers for your system that are to be used for the *F6* (add additional drivers missing from the Windows installation CD for a newer system) during initial installation booting.  (Or, were those drivers available on your system's driver disc that may have come with the system?) 

I presume you do not have a floppy drive (? external USB floppy?) that would allow using the original WinXP installation disc and adding those drivers using the F6 routine during booting.

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Do you have experience with using that nLite program?  I tried it once several years ago when it was in its early version--at the time it was being touted for doing *custom* installations where you not only added drivers, but remove various components to control the size of the data so it actually would still fit on a single CD if you added too much new data to the installation files.

Also, it was all the *rage* to create a *unattended* installation CD--but, I discovered that at least the default settings for nLite resulted in an installation CD that was altered regardless of whether you were attempting to use the *unattended* install or not--it removed the ability to reach the *Recovery Console* using that new installation CD--at the time my main reason for using the nLite program was to create a new CD with the missing HDD controller drivers so I could access the Recovery Console without needing the F6 floppy disk routine.

When I discovered I couldn't access the Recovery Console--I went onto other things--didn't spend any time trouble shooting to see if that issue could be worked around!

So, my question--do you know if the current version of nLite reproduces an accurate installation CD with just the new drivers and/or the slipstreamed service pack--so the installation CD acts like the *original* (the option to access the Recovery Console is still available) except for the added drivers and service pack files?
 

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Reply #26 - Sep 4th, 2009 at 1:26pm
 
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You jogged my memory. I've used nLite a few times to add SATA drivers. Not for anything else. About 2 months ago I bought an Asus netbook which of course doesn't have an optical drive or a floppy drive. I had read about installing OS from USB flash drives but just to set up the flash drives is so time consuming that I used optical media. I could have installed three Win7 OS in the time it takes to prepare a flash drive.

Back on topic. I tried to install another WinXP. The CD couldn't see the HD. I slipstreamed a driver pack and that didn't work. I found the following method which did add correct drivers but at the expense of not having a Recovery Console.

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I forgot about this as my brain was in Intel mode but this pack contains AMD drivers. It is easiest if you just install everything.

BTS mass storage drivers pack

http://driverpacks.net/driverpacks/windows/xp/x86/mass-storage/9.01
http://driverpacks.net/applications/driverpacks-base/8.12.5
http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=1449

Do this on a XP source with no other custom drivers integrated and after using nLite for customizing the installation.
Make sure Text mode option is selected in DP Base.

 
 
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Reply #27 - Sep 5th, 2009 at 10:16pm
 
Thank you for all the help.

Nightowl, I used the link provided in the BING XP tutorial.

Brian, I will attempt the AMD drivers once I get the laptop back from HP. David F. at terabyte has also been helping me, he suggested and I ran memtest86, it went to 46% and stopped. Apparently the memory is bad.

I will up date as soon as I can.

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Reply #28 - Sep 5th, 2009 at 10:48pm
 
jpw wrote on Sep 5th, 2009 at 10:16pm:
David F. at terabyte has also been helping me,

He has helped me on many occasions.
 
 
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Reply #29 - Sep 6th, 2009 at 3:23am
 
I am trying to practice on my back up netbook untill I grt the HP fixed.

Brian,
Does this "Do this on a XP source with no other custom drivers integrated and after using nLite for customizing the installation."
               mean to make a disc with nlite and my XPpro disc w/out slipstream as per terabyte then install the drivers you linked above during the install of the new disc by pressing f6?

What is....  " Text mode option is selected in DP Base."?

Thank you

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