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Re: RAM size, speed and timing
Reply #15 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 3:31am

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Yes, Win10 has 32 and 64 bit versions.

Prior to Win10 I had Windows Update set to "Never Download". I used to manually install the updates a few weeks after they were released, thinking they should be stable by now. With Win10, you can't do this. The updates are automatically installed every week or two. No problems so far.

When installing Win10 you have the option of doing a MBR/Legacy mode install or a UEFI mode install. I have both (in different computers) but for our purposes a MBR/Legacy mode install is more practical.

If anyone would like to play with Win10, here are some ISOs from Microsoft.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/techbench

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Re: RAM size, speed and timing
Reply #16 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:07am

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Regarding size. It depends how much data you intend to put on the SSD. I use small OS partitions and keep my data files on an internal HD. In this computer my Win10 partition is 40 GB with 15 GB of free space. The SSD is 240 GB and contains about 10 bootable partitions. I certainly don't need a larger SSD.

Then I think that I'll settle for 240 GB and pay more for quality/performance.

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Re: RAM size, speed and timing
Reply #17 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:12am

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When I built the system, I chose 4 GB for the reason that WinXP is 32-bit. When I added Win7 to create a dual boot installation, I chose 64-bit but never upgraded RAM. (The reason why I didn't go straight to Win7 was compatibility issues with programs that I run without problems on WinXP.)

There are 32-bit and 64-bit versions of each Win10 edition.

Regarding Windows Update, what you say is true for the Home edition but as I understand it, the Professional edition gives you more control over WU.

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	Re: RAM size, speed and timing Reply #18 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:17am @ Brian Quote: With Win10, you can't do this. The updates are automatically installed every week or two. No problems so far. Are you sure about that? From what I've read, that's true for the Home edition but the Professional edition gives the user more control.
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Reply #19 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 10:51am

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See the differences between upgrades and updates....

http://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what-does-%E2%80%9Cdefer-upgrades%E2%80%9D-in-wi...

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3005193/microsoft-windows/windows-10-refres...

Ver 1511, in November, was an upgrade. I installed it manually from an ISO on day one. I want upgrades. After all, if anything goes wrong we can just restore an image. That takes me less than two minutes.

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Reply #20 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 11:37am

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I also have 2 el cheapo SanDisk SSDs which are fine too.

It seems like prices vary between countries. In Sweden, SanDisks aren't "el cheapo" but I don't know which models you are referring to.

I have narrowed it down to four with 5 years warranty and a single one with 10 years warranty. Website in Swedish > prices in Swedish currency but divide by 8,5 and you'll get it in USD:

Intel Solid-State Drive 535 Series at ~157 USD
Kingston SSDNow KC400 at ~143 USD
Samsung 850 EVO at ~124 USD
SanDisk Ultra II at ~144 USD
and finally the one with 10 years warranty:
Samsung 850 PRO at ~182 USD

I'm leaning towards the Samsung 850 EVO.

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	Re: RAM size, speed and timing Reply #21 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 11:47am @ Brian Quote: See the differences between upgrades and updates.... ... ... and I who always have downloaded the updates and installed off-line ... ... The updates do show up in the Security Bulletins and can be downloaded. If I can't prevent automatic updates, why make them downloadable?
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	Re: RAM size, speed and timing Reply #22 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 11:57am @ Christer I bought a "SanDisk Solid State Drive" 120 GB for $50 US I bought a "SanDisk SSD Plus Solid State Drive" 240 GB for $70 US I must say I'm used to the Windows Updates being done automatically. I wouldn't have said that a year ago. One less manual job.
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	Re: RAM size, speed and timing Reply #23 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 12:26pm @ Brian SanDisk PLUS at 124 USD in Sweden ... ... !
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	Re: RAM size, speed and timing Reply #24 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 1:27pm @ Christer http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_odkw=ssd+sandisk&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=...
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Re: RAM size, speed and timing
Reply #25 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 1:44pm

The 240 GB SanDisk Plus SSD doesn't support DRAT. The 120 GB SSD does. TeraByte Unlimited has a "Write Changed Sectors Only" option when restoring (needs DRAT)...

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Use this option when restoring to write only the changed sectors to the target drive (target will be read to compare). Useful in cases where a large portion of the data is the same and it’s desirable to reduce wear on the target drive (e.g. restoring image to SSD drive).

So instead of writing 25 GB of data to the SSD during a restore, I might only write 200 MB.

My Intel SSDs support DRAT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_%28computing%29

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	Re: RAM size, speed and timing Reply #26 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 2:03pm @ Brian Seems like I have a bit of reading to do ... ... !
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	Re: RAM size, speed and timing Reply #27 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 2:40pm @ Christer Putting it in perspective, a modern SSD will probably never wear out from writing too much data. Maybe if you do 50 restores daily it could wear out.
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	Re: RAM size, speed and timing Reply #28 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 2:47am @ Christer I suggest confirming the SSD you intend to buy supports DRAT. I know you won't be using the TeraByte app but SSDs which support DRAT are supposed to be more "reliable".
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	Re: RAM size, speed and timing Reply #29 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 12:36pm @ Brian Thanks for the tip, I'll check for DRAT support!
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