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Reply #135 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 2:03am

Hey Brian -

I have an issue now with my XP_SP3 image (running on the partition I resized to 26G earlier).

Allfour OS installations running fine, and decided to test restoring images.

I set the Vista boot mbr to see my XP_SP3 drive for the purposes of restoring that image when necessary (Reply 70).

I returned to boot edit, and set up my XP_SP3 partition to see the XP_SP2 and the Vista (so I could restore Vista from XP_SP3) and then I ran a backup (with these two drives backed up in a directory and sub-folder (neither existed prior to this installation and 1st time backup)

To test my restore working theory, I booted into Vista and ran a restore of my XP_SP3 image.

Things kind of started going wrong from there.

I noticed that Vista suddenly detected my XP_SP3 and upon my reboot attempt, I got a notification that drive size was different (it was 2Gb or so smaller).

I re-booted to BING, got a drive size mismatch warning and then opened Partition Work to error check the drive, and I saw the SP2 image absorbed the 2G.

I'm wondering - to restore, I'm thinking I'll have to (worse case) start over from copying the smaller SP2 as we did in Reply 107.

Thoughts?

Also - at some point, I want to be able to restore my Vista image, which is the same dilemma I have presently.

Thoughts on that one, too?

I'm kind of thinking I should abandon ghost and utilize BING?

I guess it'd help to understand why it thought it was a different size when restored from Vista but actually I guess it's better question to ask how I should handle restoring a partition in which I have my primary ghost installation running.

Thoughts there?

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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #136 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 2:45am

Strange observation in boot behavior now:
1. XP_SP3 boot menu had a dual XP boot (in a boot configuration controlled by Windows) fo Windows XP Pro and a second selelction of NT/2003.

2. Vista boots simillarly through a Vista dual OS boot style menu w/ Windows Vista and below it NT/XP/2003.

Strange, but all part of what I did when I restored, I think.

So fixing it is no big problem, restore Vista boot as I did earlier, fix XP as we did when we copied, and then abandon Ghost and utilize BING for managing partition backups and restores.

Question: Does BING restore similar to Ghost, and each backup is it's own unique file - or does it do iterative backups as Ghost 8 or 2003 would by letting you overwrite an existing image?

Doesn't matter at the this point, I'm a bit gun shy of relying on one particular method of restoring images, and would like to perfect backing up my configuration with BING at this point.

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	Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations Reply #137 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 2:54am Bill, To summarize, do your partitions look like this in Partition Work? SP3 SP2 Vista Win7 Storage BING Are there any "E" partitions?. Is there a message saying "Errors exist"? Are the first two partitions the correct sizes? You could be correct. Ghost might not like unlimited primaries.
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	Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations Reply #138 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:03am I think Ghost mistakenly created those "Dual boot" menus when you restoed the images. If so it it easy to fix. In WinXP have a look at your boot.ini. In Vista look at msconfig. I doubt there is a BCD problem.
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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #139 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:04am

Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 2:54am:

do your partitions look like this in Partition Work?

SP3
SP2
Vista
Win7
Storage
BING

Confirmed, that is precisely how I see my partitions.

Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 2:54am:

Are there any "E" partitions?.

Negative. No E:\ partitions.

Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 2:54am:

Is there a message saying "Errors exist"?
Are the first two partitions the correct size?

I saw a warning the first time I re-booted after running a restore (form within BING when I tried to boot to SP3) that suggested I run Partition Work to check the partition for errors.

As for the XP_SP3 and XP_SP2 partition sizes, they are not the same size they were when I built and installed on the two partition sizes (XP_SP3: 24 that was 26G, XP_SP2: 8G that was 6G)

After I selected the source image (running the XP_SP3 restore from Ghost in Vista), when Ghost gave me the option of restore image, I did see that it was seeing all of my Windows drives (a surprise at first, but I didn't stop to think that seeing all of them was warning me about something) and for my XP drives (where I wanted to target the restore) it saw them as unallocated and there was some other incidents of strangeitude all pointing to Ghost.

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	Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations Reply #140 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:16am Not E:\ partitions but an E somewhere on the partition line in Partition Work. E for error. In partition Work select the first partition and hold down left Shift and click Properties. Anything about a File System error? Do the same for the second partition.
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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #141 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:22am

Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:16am:

Anything about a File System error?

Indeed - "Warning: File system ends at LBA 49142897 This partition may not boot WinNT

Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:16am:

Do the same for the second partition.

No warnings like the first. Has cluster size 4096 bytes and the same notification regarding NT.

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	Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations Reply #142 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:23am Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:16am: Not E:\ partitions but an E somewhere on the partition line in Partition Work. E for error. -smacking forehead- Dang that was dumb of me, forgive.
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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #143 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:32am

Are you sure the isn't an "Errors exist" warning at the top of Partition Work?

OK. Do this for the first partition.

Hold down left Shift on the keyboard and click Properties
in Additional Information there will be *Warning* File system ends at LBA --------- (numbers here)
copy this number to the LBA Information End field. Click OK

Let me know what the numbers were.

Is there a Warning for the second partition now if you Left shift Properties?

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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #144 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:37am

Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:32am:

Are you sure the isn't an "Errors exist" warning at the top of Partition Work?

No, no errors like that at all in Partition Work.

Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:32am:

Hold down left Shift on the keyboard and click Properties
in Additional Information there will be *Warning* File system ends at LBA --------- (numbers here)
copy this number to the LBA Information End field. Click OK

Let me know what the numbers were.

For Additional Information: "... ends at LBS 49142897"

For "LBA Information" (to the right of Option: Mulit OS)
49158899

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	Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations Reply #145 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:39am Has the Warning gone? Are the partitions the same size?
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	Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations Reply #146 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:39am Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:32am: Is there a Warning for the second partition now if you Left shift Properties? No - no warnings, nothing on XP_SP2 properties (58) dialog box. And XP_SP3 Properties dialog box has no warning.
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	Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations Reply #147 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:42am Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:39am: Has the Warning gone? Yes. Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:39am: Are the partitions the same size? XP_SP2 is the same size. XP_SP3 is slightly smaller (now showing 23996 MB)
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	Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations Reply #148 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:43am Good. Try this. Resize the second partition to what you had before. Then slide it. Resize the first partition to take up the Free Space. Does it look OK now? Do both OS boot?
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	Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations Reply #149 - Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:47am Brian wrote on Apr 4^th, 2010 at 3:43am: Resize the second partition to what you had before. Error 55 found on file system. Use a tool such as scandisk or chkdsk/f to correct this error
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