Radified Community Forums - Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD

Christer

Übermensch

Offline

Posts: 1364
Sweden

Back to top

Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD
Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 5:12pm

I'm looking for a way to make a bootable UFD with Ghost 2003. I've been searching RADIFIED but with no luck.

The need has arisen through a probable purchase of a laptop. I will learn about Windows 10 and probably mess things up in the process. Before I start, I want to create an image to a HDD connected via USB and also restore from that HDD.

Any thoughts?

Old chinese proverb:
If I hear - I forget, If I see - I remember, If I do - I understand

IP Logged

Brian

Demigod

Offline

Posts: 6345
NSW, Australia

Back to top

Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD
Reply #1 - Mar 23^rd, 2016 at 7:13pm

@

Christer

This is a fast method. I used a 1 GB UFD with a FAT16 partition.

Download Rufus 2.8 Portable from...

https://rufus.akeo.ie/

Insert your UFD

Run rufus-2.8p.exe

You will see your UFD in the Device field
In the "Create a bootable disk using" field you should see FreeDOS
Leave the other fields alone and click Start

Copy ghost.exe to the UFD

Done

You can play with autoexec.bat, ctmouse, etc, later, if you desire.

Edit... If your computer supports USB3 and you have a USB3 external HD then Ghost won't be able to take advantage of the speed. I use Image for Linux which supports USB3.

Edit... I just ran an IFL backup of my Win10 partition to a USB3 external HD. The image size was 15.6 GB and it took 167 seconds.

IP Logged

Christer

Übermensch

Offline

Posts: 1364
Sweden

Back to top

	Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD Reply #2 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 3:06am @ Brian I think that I'll reuse the first UFD I used to create a W10 upgrade drive. I believe it's FAT32. Quote: Leave the other fields alone and click Start By that I understand "don't make any changes". Thanks Brian!
	Old chinese proverb: If I hear - I forget, If I see - I remember, If I do - I understand IP Logged

Christer

Übermensch

Offline

Posts: 1364
Sweden

Back to top

Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD
Reply #3 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 7:15am

@

Brian

I created the bootable UFD, added the directory "GHOST" with the executable ghost.exe in it.

I edited AUTOEXEC.BAT by adding two lines at the end -

Quote:

@echo off
set PATH=.;\;\LOCALE
display con=(ega,,1)
GOTO %CONFIG%
:1
mode con codepage prepare=((858) \locale\ega.cpx) > NUL
mode con codepage select=858 > NUL
keyb sv,,\locale\keyboard.sys
:2
CD GHOST
GHOST.EXE -fdsp

- which I copied from the AUTOEXEC.BAT on my Ghost Floppy.

I did a test on my desktop computer.

When booting from the UFD, I was given the option to choose keyboard layout. After choosing "swedish" it started Ghost.

I have an old USB enclosure with an even older HDD (PATA 133).

I created an image of my WinXP partition (smaller than my Win7 partition) ~16,5 GB. It took 22 minutes 21 seconds (1341 seconds). Running an integrity check took 19 minutes 28 seconds (1168 seconds).

Booted from the Floppy, with the target on a SATA in a mobile rack, creation takes ~5 minutes and checking integrity somewhat less.

I don't think buying a USB enclosure for SATA 3 makes a difference since USB 2.0 is the limiting component, right?

Old chinese proverb:
If I hear - I forget, If I see - I remember, If I do - I understand

IP Logged

Brian

Demigod

Offline

Posts: 6345
NSW, Australia

Back to top

Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD
Reply #4 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 4:11pm

@

Christer

Christer wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 7:15am:

I don't think buying a USB enclosure for SATA 3 makes a difference since USB 2.0 is the limiting component, right?

I agree.

I'm glad your UFD could see the USB HD. Mine couldn't. I tried a USB3 HD plugged into a USB2 port. I also made a UFD from Dan Goodell's ISO (dsrfix98.zip)...

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1155827177/30

It (UFD) couldn't see the USB3 HD either.

IP Logged

Christer

Übermensch

Offline

Posts: 1364
Sweden

Back to top

Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD
Reply #5 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 5:06pm

@

Brian

Quote:

I'm glad your UFD could see the USB HD. Mine couldn't.

On very rare occasions ... Cool

... I win the lottery too but success or failure will be determined when I connect the USB HDD to the new Toshiba and run Ghost from the UFD. If ... Undecided

... I finally convince myself to buy the laptop but I think I will because at an easter sale, it is 40% off. It comes with Win10 Home but I would rather have Win10 Pro since that's what I'll get when upgrading Win7 Pro on the desktop but what the heck, you can't get it all.

Old chinese proverb:
If I hear - I forget, If I see - I remember, If I do - I understand

IP Logged

Brian

Demigod

Offline

Posts: 6345
NSW, Australia

Back to top

	Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD Reply #6 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 7:24pm @ Christer Then you will have UEFI and Legacy systems. Lots of fun playing with the different systems.
	IP Logged

Brian

Demigod

Offline

Posts: 6345
NSW, Australia

Back to top

Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD
Reply #7 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 2:19pm

@

Christer

I note you are buying a laptop which probably contains a hard drive and not a SSD. The price of Intel 535 SSDs has dropped significantly in the last few weeks (no idea why) so some friends suggested I buy 120 GB SSDs and upgrade their laptops. We replaced the HD with a SSD, restored an image of the OS partition to the SSD, removed the optical drive and installed the old HD in a caddy. The OS partition on the HD was deleted and the data partition was preserved. So no data loss and a much faster laptop.

All OS were Win10 (Home and Pro). A mix of UEFI and Legacy systems. SSD price about $52 US.

IP Logged

Brian

Demigod

Offline

Posts: 6345
NSW, Australia

Back to top

	Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD Reply #8 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 2:43pm @ Christer By the way, Ghost 2003 only sees the Protective MBR on a GPT disk. It doesn't see any partitions.
	IP Logged

Christer

Übermensch

Offline

Posts: 1364
Sweden

Back to top

Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD
Reply #9 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 2:59pm

@

Brian

Well, there are different models built on the same chassie. AMD/Intel, dual/quad, HDD/SSD (different sizes), 4GB/8GB RAM and so on. The version in the link has an AMD quad core, 8 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD. The shop says 4 GB RAM but I don't believe it.

I have it on order with delivery in ten days and after that "30 days return, no questions asked". If it is as stated by Toshiba, then I'll keep it.

I have inherited an old laptop and I tested the Ghost-UFD with the USB-HDD. It seems like the BIOS is a vital factor. It did see the Ghost-UFD separately and also the USB-HDD separately but when both were connected, it saw the Ghost-UFD and it suddenly had two partitions (the USB-HDD misread, i guess). So no luck there.

Old chinese proverb:
If I hear - I forget, If I see - I remember, If I do - I understand

IP Logged

Brian

Demigod

Offline

Posts: 6345
NSW, Australia

Back to top

	Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD Reply #10 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 3:11pm @ Christer What are your plans for imaging the UEFI system on the new Toshiba laptop?
	IP Logged

Christer

Übermensch

Offline

Posts: 1364
Sweden

Back to top

	Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD Reply #11 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 3:19pm @ Brian Quote: What are your plans for imaging the UEFI system on the new Toshiba laptop? This thread is about that. I thought that UEFI is a thing in the future and haven't even read up on it.
	Old chinese proverb: If I hear - I forget, If I see - I remember, If I do - I understand IP Logged

Brian

Demigod

Offline

Posts: 6345
NSW, Australia

Back to top

	Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD Reply #12 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 3:22pm @ Christer All OEM Win8 and Win10 computers sold are required by Microsoft to have the OS installed in UEFI mode with Secure Boot turned on. So you will soon have a UEFI system. Ghost 2003 won't work.
	IP Logged

Christer

Übermensch

Offline

Posts: 1364
Sweden

Back to top

	Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD Reply #13 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 3:29pm @ Brian Seems like I'll have to buy something new. What do You recommend?
	Old chinese proverb: If I hear - I forget, If I see - I remember, If I do - I understand IP Logged

Christer

Übermensch

Offline

Posts: 1364
Sweden

Back to top

	Re: Ghost 2003 from bootable UFD Reply #14 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 3:48pm Off-Topic replies have been moved to this Topic.
	Old chinese proverb: If I hear - I forget, If I see - I remember, If I do - I understand IP Logged

	Welcome, Guest. Please Login