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The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V
Apr 5^th, 2016 at 10:54am

Well, I picked it up today and after charging the battery, I started it and did the basics as required. Next, I went to system specifications and was rather disappointed to find 4 GB RAM installed and not 8 GB as per specifications. What is your opinion on this? Is 4 GB acceptable or too little bearing "shared with graphics" in mind?

I attach a screenshot of the disk. The computer speaks Swedish but I guess that you can deduct what the 4 partitions are about.

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	Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V Reply #1 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:20am This is RAM-usage, idling with not even a Firewall or Antivirus running.
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Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V
Reply #2 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:28pm

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4 GB of RAM should be OK even though 8 GB would be preferable. If 8 GB was specified why wasn't it supplied? Can you add extra RAM if 4 GB proves insufficient?

Your Disk Management shows (MSR probably follows the EFI partition. It will show in IFL)

EFI System Partition
Win10
Recovery
Probably a restore partition which could be deleted later when you have created backup images. Your choice.

For your initial image I'd create an Entire Drive image. All 5 partitions will be included in a single TBI image.

Christer wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 11:20am:

This is RAM-usage, idling with not even a Firewall or Antivirus running.

I just use the Windows Firewall and Windows Defender, both included in the OS. If you use a third party Antivirus then Windows Defender will be disabled.

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Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V
Reply #3 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:57pm

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If 8 GB was specified why wasn't it supplied?

The shop actually said 4 GB but the Thoshiba product specification says 8 GB and I assumed that Toshiba was right. I mean, the product code on the box is extactly the same as in the product specification. I never even saw one until it was delivered today, just looking at pictures and ... Roll Eyes

... specifications.

I have sent Toshiba an email, asking about it.

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Probably a restore partition which could be deleted later when you have created backup images. Your choice.

I thought that both "recovery partitions" at the end of the disk could be deleted and the free space merged into C:.

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For your initial image I'd create an Entire Drive image. All 5 partitions will be included in a single TBI image.

Exactly my thought. I'll run IFL to see what it shows.

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Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V
Reply #4 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 1:16pm

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Christer wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

I thought that both "recovery partitions" at the end of the disk could be deleted and the free space merged into C:.

Don't delete the 400 MB partition as you will lose the ability to do "Windows Startup Repairs".

Do you plan to resize the C: drive smaller and create a Data partition?

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Reply #5 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 1:40pm

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Don't delete the 400 MB partition as you will lose the ability to do "Windows Startup Repairs".

Okey, thanks for the tip!

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Do you plan to resize the C: drive smaller and create a Data partition?

I have thought about it but there may not be much space to "transfer"? Maybe 2/1 (~80GB/~40GB) but I have no clue about to what size W10 will grow.

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	Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V Reply #6 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 1:46pm @ Christer I'm just about to leave for a fishing trip but I'll reply tonight. My Win10 is 40 GB with 14 GB of Free Space.
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Reply #7 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 2:40pm

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I had trouble finding out how to get it to boot from the UFD.

I changed the boot order in the Toshiba system settings. Now it should search the USB and next the HDD/SSD for something bootable but it still booted from the SSD.

Finally, I remembered what Dan said:

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... you should disable Win10's "Fast Startup" mode before you start messing around with imaging and restoring.

It seems like, until I made that change, it didn't shut down properly and in consequence didn't search for bootable media.

Now, it works fine and boots from the USB when present and otherwise from the SSD.

IFL sees the external USB-HDD.

IFL lists the partitions on the SSD:

ESP > 260 MiB > FAT-32
Microsoft Reserved Partition > 16 MiB > GPT entry
TIH0039100A > 111669 MiB * > NTFS
WinRE > 460 MiB > NTFS
HDDR > 9668 MiB > FAT-32

*) The information states: 24872 MiB used, 86827 MiB free, 26640 MiB to restore. Should I use the "compact" option to reduce the "overhead" or just leave it? When the computer has been used for a while, the "overhead" will become larger but since a SSD should not be defragmented, maybe it shouldn't be "compacted"?

Even if it shouldn't be compacted, I think that I'll ignore that when the "overhead" has become equal to used space ... Cool

... so why not start now?

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Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V
Reply #8 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 5:18pm

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There is no need to use Compact unless you have a reason. Such as restoring your OS image to a 27 GB partition. Something that you will never do. The MiB to Restore setting indicates the sector spread. One of my computers has a 30000 MiB OS partition with 15000 MiB in use and 30000 MiB to Restore. No problems unless I want to restore to a smaller partition. Then I'd have to compact prior to creating the image.

I think you should purchase the TeraByte Special Bundle. BIBM, IFW, IFL, IFD, TBOSDT. BIBM Partition Work will run in IFL so you won't have to change the BIOS to boot in Legacy mode. IFL is very versatile. It has TBOSDT and several useful scripts.

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Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V
Reply #9 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 2:24am

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How was fishing? Did you catch any?

About compacting, I read the manual and understood it as compacting would reduce the size of the image, not only the required space to restore it to.

I assume that you're referring to this bundle. It might be a mistake recommending it because ... Undecided

... you will probably spend hours trying to teach me how to use it ... Grin

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	Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V Reply #10 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 5:00am @ Christer I'm in Weipa, north Queensland, with my wife and youngest son. Fishing starts tomorrow. Six days. That's the correct bundle. $49.98. The third party seller might offer extras such as download protection. You don't need them.
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	Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V Reply #11 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 3:05pm Each app is licensed for 3 home computers.
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Reply #12 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 3:41pm

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I hope You're enjoying yourself and have some real quality time with Your family!

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About compacting, I read the manual and understood it as compacting would reduce the size of the image, not only the required space to restore it to.

Can You confirm that to compact or not to compact has no effect on the size of the image?

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	Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V Reply #13 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 3:51pm @ Christer It should have no effect on image size. It compacts the sectors in use. MiB in use will be unchanged.
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	Re: The new Toshiba Satellite L50D-C-18V Reply #14 - Apr 7^th, 2016 at 3:45am @ Christer We had a great first day. We caught barramundi, blue salmon, cod, mackerel, shark, jewfish and long tail tuna. The biggest fish was 112 cm in length. Three barramundi were hooked and landed from the first three casts.
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