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Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003
May 6^th, 2005 at 6:40pm

Hello everyone.

I would like to clone my 40gig IDE hard drive onto my 160gig SATA HD on my new computer. The only way to do this would be to connect the old HD onto IDE on cable select inside the new computer.

Would it be safe to clone my old hard drive onto the new one
while it is connected to the new PC or would I be safer re-installing everything?

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Re: Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003
Reply #1 - May 6^th, 2005 at 6:58pm

I would remove the old drive from the system, then install the new one in place of the old one, then partition the new one just like the old one, and then install the old one, but change the jumpers so it is not the primary master, and clone the old to new. It depends how your partitions are set up on the old drive. Is it just one big drive? Then you don't need to partition it before cloning. After Ghost is done, turn off the computer and remove the old drive before it starts back up. Make sure everything works fine with the new drive.

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	Re: Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003 Reply #2 - May 6^th, 2005 at 10:01pm PeterB Quote: I would like to clone my 40gig IDE hard drive onto my 160gig SATA HD on my new computer . Clarify--was your 40 gig IDE hard drive on an 'old' computer, and now you want to transfer your OS on that HDD from the old computer to a 'new computer' system?
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Re: Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003
Reply #3 - May 6^th, 2005 at 10:23pm

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"... but change the jumpers so it is not the primary master, and clone the old to new..."

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As I recall, once I placed a SATA HDD in the PRIMARY MASTER HDD position on my Dell Dimension 8300, the former PRIMARY MASTER IDE/ATA HDD would not function in the PRIMARY SLAVE role - with neither the CABLE SELECT nor the SLAVE jumper setting:

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=11062...

However, I must state there were no problems nor any hesitation at all that day with my Dimension 8300 (WIN XP Pro) as I performed a Norton Ghost 2003 Restore of a "disk-to-image" from an external IDE HDD to the SATA HDD set up to replace the original IDE/ATA PRIMARY MASTER HDD (no IDE/ATA HDDs were onboard during the transition).

With my Dell Dimension 8100 (WIN XP Home) on the other hand, I performed a Norton Ghost Clone of the IDE/ATA Primary Master HDD to a SATA HDD in an external enclosure kit which was then removed and placed in the Primary Master HDD role (no IDE/ATA HDDs in the loop granted the PCI-to-SATA host adapter card); the system immediately demanded that Windows XP be reactivated within 3 days due to hardware changes - which I put off momentarily - but eventually all the "nickle-and-dime" error messages convinced me to revert to the IDE/ATA HDD as PRIMARY MASTER where it remains to this day.

One key difference in my estimation is that SATA capability was native to the Dimension 8300 systemboard, whereas I had to install a Vantec PCI-to-SATA Host Adapter Card in the Dimension 8100 - albeit that is all guesswork on my part and nothing more.

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"... Clarify--was your 40 gig IDE hard drive on an 'old' computer, and now you want to transfer your OS on that HDD from the old computer to a 'new computer' system?"

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	Re: Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003 Reply #4 - May 7^th, 2005 at 2:48pm Thanks for all the advice. I cloned the IDE drive onto the SATA hd, and initially the SATA drive refused to load XP. I went into the BIOS and changed the HD settings to "combination" and now XP loads and things are back to normal.
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	Re: Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003 Reply #5 - May 7^th, 2005 at 3:11pm Congrats. Thx for the follow-up.
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Reply #6 - May 7^th, 2005 at 6:48pm

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"... I cloned the IDE drive onto the SATA hd, and initially the SATA drive refused to load XP. I went into the BIOS and changed the HD settings to "combination" and now XP loads and things are back to normal..."

PeterB

Are you going to put the 40GB IDE/ATA HDD back in service ?

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	Re: Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003 Reply #7 - May 8^th, 2005 at 3:30pm El_Pescador wrote on May 7^th, 2005 at 6:48pm: Are you going to put the 40GB IDE/ATA HDD back in service ? *El Pescador* Yep. The original 40gig IDE drive is going back in the old PC which is going to a charity trust while I enjoy the splendour of my new PC. :)
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Re: Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003
Reply #8 - May 8^th, 2005 at 4:29pm

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Interesting!

Did you do anything 'special' to prepare the cloning operation?

'Normally', trying to clone an OS from an old computer system to a new computer system creates problems--the old OS has never 'seen' the new motherboard, CPU, memory chips, SATA controllers, different USB controllers, different IDE controllers, different sound card, network card, modem if present, etc....and complains about the changes--often getting no further than a frozen blue screen of death during boot!

What's your secret?

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Re: Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003
Reply #9 - May 11^th, 2005 at 6:54pm

NightOwl wrote on May 8^th, 2005 at 4:29pm:

PeterB

Interesting!

Did you do anything 'special' to prepare the cloning operation?

'Normally', trying to clone an OS from an old computer system to a new computer system creates problems--the old OS has never 'seen' the new motherboard, CPU, memory chips, SATA controllers, different USB controllers, different IDE controllers, different sound card, network card, modem if present, etc....and complains about the changes--often getting no further than a frozen blue screen of death during boot!

What's your secret?

Blowed if I know as I've just installed a new HD, NIC and soundcard and everything so far is working fine.

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	Re: Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003 Reply #10 - May 11^th, 2005 at 8:46pm PeterB Quote: I've just installed a new HD, NIC and soundcard and everything so far is working fine So is it a new motherboard, as well? I'm assuming 'yes', if you are giving the other computer to charity. As I said, 'Interesting'!
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Re: Cloning question concerning Ghost 2003
Reply #11 - May 12^th, 2005 at 1:42pm

NightOwl wrote on May 11^th, 2005 at 8:46pm:

PeterB

So is it a new motherboard, as well? I'm assuming 'yes', if you are giving the other computer to charity.

As I said, 'Interesting'!

The new PC is a Dell 8400 which I decided to replace the on-board sound and NIC with their PCI counterparts and increase the amount of HD space.

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