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Ghost Boot Disk for External USB Drive
Nov 30th, 2005 at 11:04am
 
Hi there, I have had a problem for ages and just stumbled across this forum which appears to have a lot of knowledgable people on the subject of Ghost! Anyways, my problem is this.....

I have ghost working perfectly (boot into Ghost via Dos-make backups to an external usb drive) on newer dell machines which have USB 2 controllers. My problem is the company still have lots of older machine which have no usb 2 controllers. I have read many various threads on boot disks for USB 1.1 support etc and have followed many of them. However I still have the same problem. When I boot into Ghost, there is no selection available for my External USB Hard drive.

The model of my drive is a western digital dual option combo 320gb. Can anybody provide me with a step by step guide of enabling this disk to work in Ghost. I have also upgraded my BIOS to the latest setting.

Many thanks in advance,
Lamby
 
 
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Re: Ghost Boot Disk for External USB Drive
Reply #1 - Nov 30th, 2005 at 11:23am
 
I forgot to mention I am using Norton Ghost 2003!
 
 
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Re: Ghost Boot Disk for External USB Drive
Reply #2 - Nov 30th, 2005 at 12:27pm
 
Lamby

So, the laptops have USB 1.1--I'm assuming?

Have you used the Norton Ghost Boot Wizard and selected USB 1.1 drivers?

If *Yes* to the above, then your external HDD may not be compatible with the Ghost USB DOS driver (created by Iomega).

You could try an alternate USB DOS driver:

A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!


Current available Panasonic USB DOS drivers are:

v2.06
, size=37,903, dated 11/26/2002

v2.15
, size=39,093, dated 10/26/2003

v2.20
, size=39,179, dated 11/07/2004
 

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Reply #3 - Nov 30th, 2005 at 12:44pm
 
Hi nightowl, thanks for the reply.

Firstly, the desktops (not laptops) I am trying to use all have 1.1 USB only on them. They do not have any usb 2 hosts or controllers. I have tried the boot wizard with 1.1 support selected with no joy.

My personal belief was the drive isnt compatible with the Iomega driver too. As such I was looking through the thread you pointed me too.

I was under the impression that I would definitely need a 1.1 driver though and not a USB 2 DOS driver. Could you clarify this?

Many thanks,
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Reply #4 - Nov 30th, 2005 at 1:22pm
 
Lamby

In the first referenced thread above:

A Better USB 2.0 DOS Driver for Ghost + More!


in the [config.sys] section:

[config.sys]

Device=himem.sys
rem :The following line loads Panasonic's universal USB-controller driver
rem :those are spaces between the file name and each of the switches
rem :The '/e' switch forces USB 2.0 only, remove for USB 1.x also

Device=usbaspi.sys
/e
/v
rem :The following is an aspi mass storage driver for usb-connected HDD's
rem :and compactflash memory cards
rem :The 'Motto Hairu USB Driver'
Device=di1000dd.sys
Dos=high,umb
Lastdrive=z

In the original document:

Yes, there are USB drivers for DOS...



Quote:
The driver scans all three USB controller specs by default, but you can limit which controllers are enabled using these switches:

/e EHCI spec (USB 2.0)
/o OHCI spec (newer USB 1.x)
/u UHCI spec (older USB 1.x)

 

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Reply #5 - Nov 30th, 2005 at 2:20pm
 
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"... the desktops (not laptops) I am trying to use all have 1.1 USB only on them. They do not have any usb 2 hosts or controllers..."

Oftentimes, DOS-based Norton Ghost 2003 has all kinds of problems with USB 2.0 host controller software or USB 2.0 device controller software that is not NEC-compliant.  
Substituting NEC-compliant USB 2.0 hardware with concomitant software drivers usually resolves the matter
- although adopting NightOwl's Panasonic Universal USB Driver routine is the cheaper and quicker approach to attain the same goal if you already have the hardware.

Providing you have available PCI slots on each desktop PC, CLICK HERE to check out a NEC-compliant PCI-to-USB host adapter card at a modest price (host controller software is included, though you probably will not need it).

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Re: Ghost Boot Disk for External USB Drive
Reply #6 - Dec 11th, 2005 at 3:21pm
 
Prediction requested:
I have clicked CLICK HERE (see previous post) and found the
Koutech I/O Future PU320 NEC Chipset 3 Port (2+1) USB 2.0 480Mbps High Speed PCI Host Controller Card - RETAIL
product.

If I:
- open this old Windows 98 (FIRST EDITION) box
- install this PCI USB card
- attach an enclosure containing a <32GB drive
would you PREDICT success.
I'm not asking for a guarantee.  I'm request a guess based on your experience.  Would you be optimistic?
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Reply #7 - Dec 11th, 2005 at 3:23pm
 
Oops - correction to previous post.
By "success", I mean
  "success Ghosting the 4 GB C: drive to the HD in the USB enclosure (attached to the USB PI card) using Ghost 2003."
Thank you again.
 
 
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Reply #8 - Dec 12th, 2005 at 12:15am
 
cardinal23 wrote on Dec 11th, 2005 at 3:21pm:
"... would you PREDICT success.
I'm not asking for a guarantee.  I'm request a guess based on your experience.  Would you be optimistic?..."

If the PC were to have a free PCI slot and the OS were Windows 98 Second Edition, then I would consider success virtually certain.  However, with 98 First Edition I must confess having neither experience nor hearsay to reveal - neither positive nor negative.

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