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Re: Combining Ghost image segments
Reply #15 - Feb 19th, 2008 at 9:31am
 
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is there a way to make ghost automatic rather than me having to point to each segment?

Probably....

I have made one suggestion in reply #12 above.

As I said before--*the devil is in the details*--you need to reply to the questions at the end of reply #3 above

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The devil is always in the details!!!  Which boot floppy from the Wizard?

Last time I heard, Ghost 8.2 is too large to fit on a single floppy--along with the boot files--so it must be a two floppy boot set--how are you managing that when creating the bootable DVD?

Are you *automating* the bootable DVD, using a command line to restore the template image to the new system without user intervention? (What's the command line?)

A list of boot files, plus the contents of [config.sys] and [autoexec.bat] would be helpful to understand the setup.

 

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Re: Combining Ghost image segments
Reply #16 - Feb 20th, 2008 at 8:28am
 
I am using the network boot disk but I picked any network card as it is not really needed.  Here is the config.sys file

[menu]
rem menuitem=FROMFLPY, This computer was started from a Ghost boot disk
rem menuitem=FROMCD, This computer was started from a Ghost bootable CD

[FROMCD]

[IBM]
\IBMNET\netbind.com

[DELL]
\DELLNET\netbind.com

[COMMON]
DEVICE = oakcdrom.sys /D:cd1
DEVICE = btdosm.sys
DEVICE = flashpt.sys
DEVICE = btcdrom.sys /D:cd2
DEVICE = aspi2dos.sys
DEVICE = aspi8dos.sys
DEVICE = aspi4dos.sys
DEVICE = aspi8u2.sys
DEVICE = inicd.sys /D:cd3
DEVICE=\net\protman.dos /I:\net
DEVICE=\net\dis_pkt.dos
DEVICE=\net\e1000.dos
LASTDRIVE = Z

Here is the autoexec.bat file:

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+05:00
prompt $p$g
\net\netbind.com
MOUSE.COM
CLS
LH \MSCDEX.EXE /D:cd1 /D:cd2 /D:cd3
rem echo Loading...
rem if %config% == FROMFLPY goto FLPYBOOT
rem if %config% == FROMCD goto CDBOOT
rem if %config% == IBM goto IBM
rem if %config% == DELL goto DELL


goto CDBOOT

goto FAILED

rem :FLPYBOOT
rem echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
rem pause
rem if exist a:\ghost\ghost.exe goto GHOSTFND
rem goto FLPYBOOT

:CDBOOT
rem echo Insert Ghost boot disk 2 (containing Ghost.exe)
rem echo To run Ghost.exe from a hard disk or CD, press Ctrl-C at rem the following prompt
rem echo then change to the appropriate drive letter and type rem 'Ghost'
rem pause
rem if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
rem b:
rem goto GHOSTFND
c:\ghost


:GHOSTFND
c:\ghost
echo Loading...
GHOST.EXE  -forceusb -force1394
goto END

:FAILED
echo Unknown boot menu selection
goto END

:END

Here is the files and folders on the floppy:

aspi2dos.sys
aspi4dos.sys
aspi8dos.sys
aspi8u.sys
autoexec.bat
btcdrom.sys
btdosm.sys
command.com
config.sys
flashpt.sys
ibmbio.com
ibmdos.com
inicd.sys
mouse.com
mscdex.exe
oakcdrom.sys

also two folders:
GHOST (empty)

NET - containing:
     dis_pkt.dos
     e1000.dos
     netbind.com
     protman.dos
     protman.exe
     protocol.ini

I use this with Roxio to create a bootable DVD and then on the DVD I copy:

Ghost.exe
also I copy over the three image segments.
 
 
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Re: Combining Ghost image segments
Reply #17 - Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:24am
 
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So, your optical drive is assigned drive letter C:\?

And once Ghost is loaded, you select your Ghost image file *.gho* after choosing the optical drive under its DOS drive letter C:\ as the source drive--you are not using *@CD-ROM...your drive name* as the designation for the source drive--correct?
 

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Re: Combining Ghost image segments
Reply #18 - Feb 21st, 2008 at 6:06am
 
Yes, this is the way the default of the boot disk that is created by ghost boot wizard.
 
 
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Re: Combining Ghost image segments
Reply #19 - Feb 21st, 2008 at 7:45am
 
Leo

I'm working the last couple days on a project that's taking much of my time--so I can attempt to duplicate your setup until maybe tomorrow--but I'll try to see if I can create the same problem.
 

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Re: Combining Ghost image segments
Reply #20 - Feb 28th, 2008 at 10:02am
 
Leo

Finally got this test done--and on my system there was no problem for Ghost to continue uninterrupted from one Ghost file to the next.

My setup was different from yours because I'm using Ghost 2003 and not enterprise Ghost 8.x.  My Ghost Boot Wizard can not create a boot disk that supports CD/DVD and Network support on a single boot disk--it's one or the other--but I noted on your boot files that you had disabled any network support--so essentially your boot disk was for CD/DVD support--which is what I created and used.

As my restore continued, I pondered what else could be causing your experience to be different from mine, and I came up with a couple thoughts:

1.  When I create my initial Ghost image file set, I used the default setting of Ghost 2003, using the DOS executable locally, and saving to a second internal HDD.  The only *Option* that is selected is *-auto* for automatic naming of spanned files.  

The *Option* for spanning (-span) is not selected--that is used, apparently, if you are going to run out of room at your initial location (volume) for an image file set, and you will need to specify an additional location (volume) for additional image files (example--using a Jaz storage device and having to put in a new disk once the first is full).

But, when restoring, if an image set is made with the spanning *Option*, I think you are then forced to specify each new image segment at the end of the previous segment.

Did you have the spanning *Option* selected?

2.  File naming:  my image set consisted of three files.  The first two were approx. 2 GB in size and the final was about 400 MB.

When Ghost 2003 auto names the spanned files, it tacks on a 4 digit sequential number at the end of the file name and uses the DOS 8.3 naming convention.  The first file created with Ghost can potentially have a *long file name* when setting up the Ghost procedure--but the spanned files will not--Ghost only retains the first 4 positions of the name and adds its 4 digit number.

Because of this, I always create file names that are a max. of 4 positions--I actually use a two digit month and two digit day as file names.  That way the file name is never truncated or over-written by Ghost's naming.  So my files today would be named:

0228.gho
02280001.ghs
02280002.ghs

3.  You can not use Ghost's built-in ability to access optical data discs with a Ghost image on it, unless Ghost burned that image directly to the optical disc.  You will get an error message right from the start saying it's not a valid Ghost image if you have burned the image file set first saved to a HDD and then burned to optical media using a third party burning program at a later time.  But, you did not report that error--so this is not the issue--and you're boot files indicate you are loading those DOS optical drive drivers.

You can use that Ghost image, but only if you boot with DOS drivers that assign a DOS drive letter to the optical drive and you access the image file on the optical media via the DOS drive letter of the optical drive.

4.  On my DVD, I placed the three image files in the root directory of the data portion of the disc.  And *ghost.exe* was also in that same root directory--no sub-directories were used--but, based on your previous posts, it sounds like you did the same--so that's probably not an issue.

5.  I used Roxio Easy CD Creator v5.xx--I don't know about v7.xx.  But in the Ghost 2003 User Guide, it makes this comment about burning files to an optical drive:

Quote:
If you use software to write an image file directly to the CD, you may experience
problems when restoring the image file. Software designed to write directly to a
CD, such as Adaptec Direct CD, uses a different file format. Therefore the copied
files are not recognized by Ghost.

If you are writing directly to a CD using third-party software, use a program that
lays out the format of the disc before it writes it, such as Adaptec E-Z CD Creator.

But, again, it doesn't sound like this is the issue either!

6.  As I mentioned above in #1--I create the image file set locally on a second internal HDD--it sounded like you are possibly sending your image file over a network to a central server?  Maybe that procedure somehow *breaks* the auto spanning of the files if they are then transferred to optical media and are not on a HDD still--grasping at straws here--don't know why that would be!

So, unless one of those items above is having an influence on your Ghosting, the only other item I can think of is that your optical drive is not *100 %* compatible with Ghost and spanned image files
 

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Re: Combining Ghost image segments
Reply #21 - Mar 7th, 2008 at 2:08pm
 
I am creating the image over the network to a server.  I do have the auto span turned on. I tried making each segment larger but ghost would not accept it.  It still is taking too long a time to image a drive from the CD, about 30 minutes.  I have now tried to setup a server with Ghost on it and using a hub and I can image up to 10 machines at a time in less than 20 minutes.  This is something we can live with and will probably contunue using.  Thanks for all your help and I really like this web site and will continue to monitor it.
 
 
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Re: Combining Ghost image segments
Reply #22 - Mar 7th, 2008 at 8:43pm
 
Leo

It sounds like you found the restore from optical media too slow--and have moved onto a different approach.

But, did you ever resolve the automatic spanning of image files on optical media--did you find a fix or workaround?
 

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