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Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations (Read 120084 times)
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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #180 -
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f you use Image Sets, the new image over-writes the old
Actually, that's perfect for my needs! And how I prefer to maintain my backups, except in some rather specific occasions, and for those...
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rename the old image in Windows prior to running the second Image Set.
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Bill, you have been easy to work with. No-one else has lasted the distance.
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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #182 -
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In Partition Work, select the partition you want backed up. Click Image, Create Image in the dialog box, OK. Select the target partition that will contain the backup. Click Paste. Double click a folder, name the backup, OK. 4 GB. OK. Select validate if you want it.
Okay, running each partition now. Starting the first one.
I tell ya, the more I use it, the more I love this app, Brian.
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Apr 4
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Same here.
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No-one else has lasted the distance.
Can't triumphantly cross the finish line unless you run the entire race.
And thank YOU, sir - for walking me through this all...
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Reply #185 -
Apr 4
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, 2010 at 4:03pm
Regarding the .img files I'm creating:
I didn't prepare my storage drive first (creating a back up folder and all), so I am just saving my .img files to my Storage drive, and figured once done I could boot into one of my OSs and create a folder for these backups, and then move the .img files to that folder.
Doing that (moving the files externally to BING) won't cause me any heartaches in BING (I know Ghost would throw a fatal warning, and I'd have to delete the backup job and the image was rendered un-usable)?
Gut feeling says that should be fine, but wanted to check with you first. I"m at the point now, I don't want to do any more destructive damage to my OSs, all this reinstallation work, after 4 rounds of starting from scratch - is really really getting old. :)
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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #186 -
Apr 4
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, 2010 at 4:08pm
Moving and renaming the .img files is fine. Will you eventually have your backups on another HD? Just in case your current HD fails?
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Reply #187 -
Apr 4
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Yeah... actually I'll probably store them on a network drive I have.
This machine I'm using is a laptop, so I don't anticipate adding a hdd to it.
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Reply #188 -
Apr 4
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Wow, this thread has doubled in size since I last checked it. Internet connectivity is infrequent for me this week--it's Spring Break week here, and I'm away in Oregon for several days. But to tie up a few loose ends . . .
Way back in reply #88, NightOwl wrote:
"Can this be done from a booted Bart PE disc? In other words (I guess), are there other tools to *remotely edit the XP registry*?"
Yes. I haven't tried it that way myself, but any way you can get to regedit is sufficient.
If you're not multibooting, you can also remove the HDD, put it in an external case, and edit it from another working system.
"can you be booted to your WinXP and use the WinXP *regedit* program to edit the Win7 registry in a similar fashion?"
Yes.
"I played around with my *regedit* [...] and I found that the *Load Hive* will also be available if you have selected *HKEY_USERS*"
That's correct, but I didn't mention it (in
reply #84
) because it's not relevant to the task. The hive you are editing isn't of consequence to the active OS (the one you're editing from), so it doesn't matter under which branch you temporarily put it.
"How do you know you are selecting the correct drive to change? If you have used the system for awhile, isn't it likely that C:\ will have been re-assigned to some other device as the first available drive letter?"
I was addressing bill's particular situation, in which he knew XP had been on E:, needed to stay E:, and he knew there was no C:. If it failed to boot because it reassigned drive letters, chances are almost certainly E: would have changed to C:.
FTR, a footnote here is XP needs to have gone through the rediscovery process. If you are restoring the image to a different location, you might predict XP will end up reassigning E:, but you can't skip ahead--you still have to let it try to boot first. You can't edit the registry value until XP has given you something to edit. You see
all that stuff
following the "\DosDevices\C:" name in the registry? You don't have that until XP has gone through the discovery process. Let XP derive that part first, then afterward change the name of the registry value.
(BTW: this rediscovery process will generate a "Found new hardware" balloon in XP.)
"Actually, in a more complex setup, another partition may already be *DosDevices\E:*--so, I presume you would have to change that as well--so it does not conflict with your editing of the incorrect OS *DosDevices* back to E:\!"
Correct. Suppose you had an OS, DVD, and data partition that had been E:, D:, and G:, respectively. If everything got reassigned, the data partition would become E:. In that case, you'd be doing two edits--one to change "\DosDevices\E:" to G:, and one to change C: to E:. (Note XP should recognize the DVD is the same by its GUID, so it would keep D: as its drive letter.)
"The above registry *DosDevices* are so cryptic--don't know how one can be comfortable in selecting the correct one to edit!"
Well, that's part of why this task shouldn't be routinely recommended for the common user.
But for the techie, it's not really that hard. For background, see my page on
how XP remembers drive letters
.
In my illustration in reply 84, I was aware beforehand that the XP disk had a DiskID of "8888-8888". There was only one partition on the HDD, so there should be only one "88 88 88 88" DosDevices entry.
If there had been more than one partition on the HDD, I could have gone further. I knew the XP partition started at LBA 63, so double that and convert to hex, and I could have predicted the DosDevices string should start with "88 88 88 88 00 7E 00 00 00".
Aside: On my own systems I have a habit of manually setting the DiskID to something useful to help me keep track of which HDD belongs where. I choose some four-character ascii string that is meaningful, such as "6823" for my daughter's HP-DV6823 or "R-40" for my IBM R40 laptop. I set this as the DiskID with a disk editor (ala, de.exe from DOS or SecEdit from Windows). Either of those utilities let me enter ascii (eg, "R-40") in the right pane and it automatically shows up as hex ("52 3D 34 30") in the left pane.
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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #189 -
Apr 4
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I'm just playing with Image Sets on my test computer. You can run the Set from BING or Windows. From Windows it reboots into BING for the imaging. I have 5 partitions (small) in the one Set. BING just flashes through them. You can have different Sets depending on which combination of partitions you would like to image.
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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #190 -
Apr 4
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Brian wrote
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You can run the Set from BING or Windows
How do I run from Windows?
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Reply #191 -
Apr 4
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http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=257
Don't forget to open Settings in BING and tick BootNow Support.
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Apr 4
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Sweeeeeet!!!!!
Gold star for you! :)
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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #193 -
Apr 4
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Brian wrote:
"I don't store any images on optical media. I feel it is too unreliable. Especially if the image is spread over several discs."
bill wrote:
"Same here - which is why what I read stood out. I'll dig around and see if I can find where I read that and see if my memory is serving me or not."
bill is probably referring to
this note
. Bear in mind that was written back when an OS image could still fit on a DVD!
Yet, I still transfer old images to DVDs for archiving. Like bill and Brian, I store recent images on a separate partition on an internal HDD for easy access. When I create a new image, however, I transfer the prior image off the internal HDD to DVD(s) and store them away. They're not as convenient to get to, but OTOH I should rarely ever need to restore from one of those old images. DVD blanks are inexpensive, and I'll still have the image in case something happens to the copy on the internal HDD.
Aside: with Ghost 2003 I use the "-split=1440" switch to split images into manageable pieces for eventual offloading to DVDs. Three segments will comfortably fit on a single DVD. 1440MB accounts for variations in the size of some brands of DVDR disks, and 1440 is a size I can easily remember, being burned into my brain from olden days as the size (in KB) of a 3.5" floppy. 1440 also leaves a bit of room to also drop a backup of the MBR on the DVD and a small text file reminding me when and what the image includes.
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Re: Ghosting Triple Win Boot Configurations
Reply #194 -
Apr 4
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Dan Goodell wrote
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I set this as the DiskID with a disk editor
Dan, I like to do this in BING from the View MBR, Edit Sig choice.
Sure is a lot of fun.
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