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Re: So, I'm in a bind--actual and emotional!
Reply #30 - Apr 27th, 2014 at 2:15am
 
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Excellent. The most difficult part of this project is behind you. Installing and booting Win7 will be easy.

NightOwl wrote on Apr 27th, 2014 at 12:08am:
Should the boot file for Win7 be generalized with the BCDEDIT before using with either Ghost or Image for Linux.Or, is that not an issue with the Image for Linux program.


I don't have my BCD generalized as I don't use Ghost except for the occasional test. IFL/IFD/IFW don't need a generalized BCD.

Your link is for BING. The BIBM page is much the same...

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=492

The command prompt edits I've used in the past (in the absence of a SRP) are...

bcdedit /set {bootmgr} device boot      
bcdedit /set {default} device boot         
bcdedit /set {default} osdevice boot      
bcdedit /set {memdiag} device boot   

But if you have BIBM these edits aren't essential as it's easy to fix a non boot due to a BCD issue. Just use BCD Edit in the above link. A 30 second job when you have done it a few times. Much faster than doing two repairs from a Win7 disk.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=411


NightOwl wrote on Apr 27th, 2014 at 12:08am:
If BIBM is the boot loader--does that in any way interfere with the Repair function on the Win7 installation disc?)


No. But using the Win7 disk isn't needed.


NightOwl wrote on Apr 27th, 2014 at 12:08am:
If I use Ghost, I guess it won't be a problem restoring a partition--the issue of boot failure only occurs if doing a whole drive restore where Ghost zeros the Disk ID--does that sound correct?(And if a whole drive restore was used on a non-generalize Ghost image, the Win7 installation disc can do a quick repair if needed if I remember correctly--yes?


Doesn't sound like a problem. You will recall a drive letter issue with WinXP results in loading freezing at around the Welcome screen. A drive letter issue with Win7 occurs a little later with a dull grey blue screen. The fix for this is to zero the Disk Signature in BIBM (View MBR, Clear Sig) and follow immediately with a BCD Edit. So a zeroed Disk Signature is no problem.


NightOwl wrote on Apr 27th, 2014 at 12:08am:
Image for Linux--if a whole drive image is created, can that be used to restore individual partitions separately--or do you have to restore the whole image?


You can restore individual or multiple partitions or the Entire drive. Easy.


NightOwl wrote on Apr 27th, 2014 at 12:08am:
When building the Image for Linux boot disc (or USB drive), you did not include the timezone information like on the BIBM disc


Sorry. Put TimeZone=PST+8PDT in Additional ifl.ini Options when you make the boot disk. If you don't use this your IFL times will be in GMT. No big deal.

NightOwl wrote on Apr 27th, 2014 at 12:08am:
I have some other *stuff* to share that I have recently come across, but it will have to wait for a later post.      


Keep it coming.

Do you plan to use IFW to create hot images or will you stick to cold images with IFL? Just curious but it is a personal choice. Both ways are fine.

I forgot to mention BIBM already contains Disk Imaging. It is IFD (GUI). Most people, not all, find it a little slower than IFL but it is very easy to create scripts so you can run one click backups and restores in BIBM. But that is for much later. IFD isn't as friendly as IFL with USB external HDs. Also, IFL supports USB3 and networking. IFD doesn't.
 
 
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Re: So, I'm in a bind--actual and emotional!
Reply #31 - Apr 27th, 2014 at 3:22am
 
Using IFL Options

For backups I use...

leave the ticks in Omit Page File Data, Omit Hibernation Data and Log Results to File
Validate Byte-for-Byte
Speedup Changes Only Backup (only tick this if you plan to create Differential/Incremental images later)
Compression Enhanced Speed - A
File Size Max

For Partition Restores I use...

Validate Before Restore
Validate Byte-for-Byte
Write Changed Sectors Only (if restoring to a SSD)
leave tick in Log Results to File
ignore First Track Sectors AUTO (greyed out)
ignore Resize partition
ignore New Name

For Entire Drive Restores I use...

Align to Target (not essential if restoring to the same HD)
Validate Before Restore
Validate Byte-for-Byte
Write Changed Sectors Only (if restoring to a SSD)
Log Results to File
First Track Sectors AUTO (is already enabled)

The Validate choices are up to you. For my test computer, I don't use them.

Edit... The same options are used with IFD and IFW backups/restores.

 
 
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Reply #32 - Apr 27th, 2014 at 12:34pm
 
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One last piece of advice. Don't forget to attempt to boot the Win7 Boot Item before you install Win7.

Off topic. HD0 in my test computer has BIBM and about twenty bootable partitions. I can replace HD0 with an empty HD, restore an Entire Drive image and everything works. The Entire Drive image is a single .tbi file. During a restore you will see the individual partitions so you can choose single or multiple partitions to restore. If you are restoring multiple partitions to an empty HD, each partition will be restored to its previous starting LBA. If you are restoring an Entire Drive image to a larger HD you can choose Scale to Fit. Partitions will be expanded proportionally with the exception of small partitions.

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Automatic Scaling Restrictions – If this option is enabled, Image for Windows will restrict the scaling of partitions which are the smaller of 15GiB or 1/8 the drive size. Using this option is an easy way to avoid scaling system reserved, recovery, and utility partitions to larger sizes when upgrading to a larger drive.
 
 
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Reply #33 - Apr 27th, 2014 at 6:16pm
 
Running TRIM on your SSD WinXP. Maybe weekly, (or less often) depending on how much you use the OS.

Partition Work
Bus.. BIOS (direct)
select SSD WinXP partition
Trim
Continue

After completion you might get a BIOS disk access warning. Click Reboot.

You don't need to do this on your SSD Win7 partition as Win7 does its own Trim.
 
 
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Reply #34 - Apr 28th, 2014 at 2:02am
 
To create an Entire Drive image and write the image to a USB external HD... Using IFL

Backup
Full Backup
Linux
ATA ..... (sda)
select Entire Drive
Single File Set
File Direct
Linux
select your USB HD. It will be last in the list
select partition on USB
select folder on USB and give the image a name (or accept the default name)
leave the ticks in Omit Page File Data, Omit Hibernation Data and Log Results to File
Validate Byte-for-Byte
Compression Enhanced Speed - A
File Size Max
Start


To restore an Entire Drive image .. Using IFD (this is IFD, not IFL)

Restore, Next
Normal, Next
File (Direct), Next
BIOS, Next 
select your backup HD, Next
select partition, folder and finally the .tbi image, Next    (you can use mouse double clicks)
tick in Entire Drive, Next
BIOS, Next
Hard Drive 0, Next  (make sure it's the SSD in the next step)
Accept the Warning
tick these Options....
   Align to Target
   Validate Before Restore
   Validate Byte-for-Byte
   Write Changed Sectors Only (if restoring to a SSD)
   Log Results to File
First Track Sectors AUTO
Next
Start


Single partition restore from an Entire Drive image...   IFL

Boot into IFL
Restore
Normal
File (Direct)
Linux
choose the HD containing the image (probably sdb)
select the backup image
remove the tick from Entire Drive and put a tick in the Partition box (you will only have one tick now)(or maybe a greyed out tick in Entire Drive and a good tick in Partition)
Linux
choose the HD containing your OS (probably sda)
select the Partition you want to restore into
on the Warning screen make sure it's the correct HD. Yes to continue.
Select
*   Validate Before Restore
*   Validate Byte-for-Byte
*   Write Changed Sectors Only (if restoring to a SSD)
*   leave tick in Log Results to File
ignore First Track Sectors AUTO (greyed out)
ignore Resize partition
Start
 
 
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Reply #35 - Apr 28th, 2014 at 6:09pm
 
How to create a one click backup script in BIBM

In BIBM
Disk Imaging
Backup
Full Backup
Hard Drive 0
Select the partition to backup (or Entire Drive)
File (Direct)
BIOS
Hard Drive 1
select destination partition and folder (double mouse click or Enter)
accept the Name (it will be Drive/Partition/Date/Time)
leave the ticks in Omit Page File Data, Omit Hibernation Data and Log Results to File
Validate Byte-for-Byte
Compression Enhanced Speed - A
File Size Max
Show Command
put a tick in Save to File
OK
you now have to add two switches to make the script run without asking you any questions. These switches are /uy and /um. Add them after /b. So it looks like...
C:\IMAGE.EXE /b /uy /um /d............
OK
In the Name field call it backup.tbs (you can use any name you like but with the .tbs extension)
OK
click Exit on the IFD GUI

To run the script click Run (on the BIBM desktop)
select backup.tbs
OK
after the backup image has been created you will be returned to the BIBM desktop

Pretty simple. One click backups. Each backup will have a different filename so no overwriting occurs.

To view the script, click Text Editor
Open
select backup.tbs
OK
If needed, the script can be edited here in Text Editor. For example, you forgot to add /uy /um

You can initiate this process in Windows using a batch file, manually or as a Scheduled Task. Windows will restart into BIBM, the script will automatically run and when the backup has completed, your computer will boot into Windows. Or you could edit the script to have your computer shutdown after the image has been created. I'll leave details until later.

An example batch file is....

D:\BOOTNOW\BOOTNOW.EXE WinXP_SSD/run=backup.tbs

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads-bootit-bare-metal.htm

See BootNow
 
 
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Reply #36 - Apr 28th, 2014 at 8:41pm
 
Creating an auto Backup (or Restore) IFL UFD

Making the IFL boot disk is slightly different from the previous instructions...

double click makedisk.exe, next
Custom Settings, next
dot in I accept the agreement, next
tick in Align Partitions on 2048 sectors
ignore Miscellaneous, next
ignore Additional ifl.ini Options  (or enter your TimeZone), next
Product Key (it's a short one compared to IFW), next
Normal Boot, next
Run List - Run Scripts listed in scriptslist.txt
BIBM Licensed Name, Product Key
Ignore the BIBM page if you don't have BIBM
Use a UFD
USB Layout... Partition - FAT/FAT32 partition (Int13h Extensions)
Geometry Calculation Method... Use Device
Finish

Creating the script...

Boot the UFD
OK on the No User Scripts message
mount the UFD partition (it should be the drive above the optical drive)
go through the IFL backup screens as far as the Backup Options screen, use the Options previously discussed and also tick Reboot (or Shutdown) when Completed.
press the Show Command button
Save to file (remember to add --uy --um after --b)
Save as backup.sh in mnt1/scripts  (not in scripts) You should see scriptslist.txt in the same folder.
Exit IFL GUI
Use MC to open /mnt1/scripts and edit scriptslist.txt (type in backup.sh). You should see backup.sh in the folder along with scriptslist.txt.
Unmount the UFD partition
Reboot

When you next boot the UFD the auto backup will happen. You can remove the UFD as soon as the backup commences, if you like.

You can create multiple .sh files in mnt1/scripts. scriptslist.txt can be edited in Windows so you can use the same UFD to perform different backup or restore tasks.

 
 
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Reply #37 - Apr 30th, 2014 at 12:35am
 
Installing Win7....

In case you haven't already done this. After booting the DVD, choose your Time and Currency format.

Install now
Accept license
Custom (advanced)
Select your partition. The Type should be System. It should be on Disk 0 and have the label you assigned in BIBM. It should be the size you created.
click Next (don't click Drive options (advanced))
you will see an Installing Windows screen

It is a fast overall install.

The install modifies the MBR so when you are ready to boot BIBM again, boot from the BIBM CD and select Reactivate BootIt Bare Metal. All your settings will still be present.

 
 
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Reply #38 - May 2nd, 2014 at 11:34pm
 
Running Image for Linux Without a Boot Disk

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/howto/howto-ifl-bootfile.htm

This tutorial is old and the setup is a lot easier than it appears in the web page. There are a few edits needed in setupifl.bat and that's it. You are producing a bootable .bin file which works similarly to the Ghost 2003 virtual partition except that a spare MBR slot isn't needed. The basic .bin boots into IFL. You can customize the .bin by using TBOSDT. TBOSDT can copy scripts and other files into the .bin so you can run auto backups and auto restores. You can use the one .bin (edited of course) to do many tasks.

Caution. Run the bootfile .bin from HD0. Not from other HDs.

You will recall the Ghost 2003 problem of being stuck in the virtual partition. If it ever happens, there is a boot Option 5 (no longer 4) which removes the virtual partition.
 
 
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Reply #39 - May 12th, 2014 at 9:11pm
 
Yet another way of using IFL

IFL on the HD

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=545

Create your custom IFL flash drive. Boot it and create restore/backup scripts in mnt1/scripts.

Use BIBM to create a 100 MB FAT or FAT32 partition on any HD and create a Boot Item.

Follow "Boot Disk Mode:" in the web page to "copy" the UFD partition to the FAT partition.

In Windows use TBOSDT to copy a custom scriptslist.txt to the scripts folder in the FAT partition. I assume you will hide the FAT partition from Windows.

Use BootNow to boot the IFL FAT partition and run the auto backup/restore. Scheduled if you like.
 
 
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Reply #40 - May 24th, 2014 at 7:10pm
 
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I hope you haven't fallen off the perch.
 
 
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Reply #41 - Dec 8th, 2014 at 1:57am
 
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Brian wrote on May 24th, 2014 at 7:10pm:
I hope you haven't fallen off the perch.


In more ways than one--and landed on my head (figuratively)--badly--I really have to stop doing that!

Everything with this project has gone fine up to the functional point that I have accomplished.  I have the SSD set up, Win7 installed, and I'm using IFL to do backups.  But, the devil is in the details, and those will have to wait for a few days--just wanted to touch base, and let you know I'm still alive!



 

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Reply #42 - Dec 9th, 2014 at 1:06am
 
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Great to have you back.

 
 
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