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Re: Upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10 or not
Reply #15 - Nov 23rd, 2015 at 4:05pm
 
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I forgot my ISO was a combined Home/Pro version and that's why it is large.

The 1511 install from booting the UFD to the Win10 desktop took 9 minutes. Fast. I clicked "I don't have a Product Key". I also clicked "Skip this step" when asked for a Microsoft account. Skipping lets you use a Local account.

My setup.exe is 10.0.10586.0
 
 
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Reply #16 - Nov 23rd, 2015 at 4:27pm
 
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Thanks for all your efforts to assist! Having the same setup.exe probably means that we also have the same (1511) version.

I'm hesitant to ask more silly questions but when does the system finally ask for the Product Key? When first connecting to the internet and MS servers?
 

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Reply #17 - Nov 23rd, 2015 at 4:32pm
 
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Christer wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 4:27pm:
when does the system finally ask for the Product Key? When first connecting to the internet and MS servers? 


There are no product keys for Win10 as far as I know. I just checked my recent 1511 install. It is Activated because I've previously activated a Win10 on this computer. A Win8 to Win10 upgrade. The activation for Win7/8 to Win10 just happens. You don't have to do anything.

This is a multi-boot computer. I have 5 Win10 installed. All are activated.
 
 
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Reply #18 - Nov 23rd, 2015 at 4:48pm
 
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Have you done a Win7 to Win10 upgrade and then restored your Win7 image? If so your computer should be fine for clean Win10 installs.
 
 
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Reply #19 - Nov 23rd, 2015 at 5:01pm
 
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Brian wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 4:48pm:
Have you done a Win7 to Win10 upgrade and then restored your Win7 image?

No, I never went all the way. I created the media and then bailed out.

Brian wrote on Nov 20th, 2015 at 2:02pm:
Last week Win10 build 1511 was released (available from the above link). It is the first Win10 build that allows you to do a clean install using your Win7 key.

This quote is from reply #4 and I interpreted it as being able to install W10 on a new HDD or SSD on a system that had not previously been upgraded.
 

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Reply #20 - Nov 23rd, 2015 at 5:33pm
 
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Christer wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 5:01pm:
I interpreted it as being able to install W10 on a new HDD or SSD on a system that had not previously been upgraded. 


That's correct. I haven't been able to try this because all my computers have already been "Win10 activated".
 
 
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Reply #21 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 12:04am
 
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Christer wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 5:01pm:
No, I never went all the way. I created the media and then bailed out.


I'm a keen upgrade man. You have everything to gain and nothing to lose by upgrading to Win10 and then restoring your Win7 image if you don't like Win10.
 
 
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Reply #22 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 4:06am
 
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One final ... Grin ... question:

My HDD is split in three partitions - partition 1 (primary) with WinXP, partition 2 (primary) with Win7 and partition 3 (logical on extended) with data. All partitions were created and formated during setup of WinXP to make Ghost 2003 work (partition alignment). There's no "200 MB system partition" but all that has ended up on partition 1, I guess.

Now, upgrading Win7 to Win10, would that bring changes to partition 1, necessitating creation of a new Image of that partition, in parallel with an Image of partition 2 with Win10?
 

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Reply #23 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 4:20am
 
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Your WinXP and Win7 booting files are in the WinXP partition. If you upgrade to Win10, the Win10 booting files would be installed into the WinXP partition too. If you wanted to revert to Win7 I'd expect you would have to restore both the WinXP and Win7 images.
 
 
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Reply #24 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 1:13pm
 
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Okey, that's what I thought. Even after April 2014 (no more updates to WinXP) have I created parallel Images, just to be sure.

From reply #14:
Christer wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 3:47pm:
I've not seen mention of version 1511 anywhere on the installation media. What is the version of setup.exe on your USB-drive?

I have gone google on this and as I understand it, "1511" is a version number indicating the release year and month as opposed to "10586" which is the build number.

I searched for "Windows 10 build 1511" (which is a common mixup) and several hits provided information/speculation/hypothesis about the reason for Microsoft to withdraw it.
 

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Reply #25 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:34pm
 
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Brian wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 11:04am:
Microsoft have (? temporarily) withdrawn the 1511 update ISO so at present you can't clean install using a Win7 key but there is a workaround....

It seems like the tail is wagging the dog. 10586 is back!

My post at Windows BBS

Now, your link in reply #4 and #9 also downloads the "1511" version.
 

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Reply #26 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:41pm
 
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Weird. On, Off, On.
 
 
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Reply #27 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 2:29am
 
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The question is if there was a problem (hush-hush) that has been corrected on the servers, meaning that running the tool today will give a different ISO or UFD compared to last week?
 

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Reply #28 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 2:47am
 
 

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Reply #29 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 3:42am
 
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Christer wrote on Nov 25th, 2015 at 2:29am:
meaning that running the tool today will give a different ISO or UFD compared to last week?      

I checked the MD5 and SHA-1 of today's download. It's the same ISO as last week.
 
 
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