Bjorn

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No--WinXP Home does not work with Win98 DOS  !  But the Win98 startup disk may boot your system to DOS okay.

If you have a floppy drive and boot floppy disk to your liking, most CD burning programs will create a bootable CD by reading the boot floppy and burning it to the CD.

Here's another resource--works with floppy drives as well:

Creating Bootable CD/DVD's Without A:\Floppy Drive

Okay some more data:

USB external WD Media center (250GB) with 2 card reader slots. 3 partitions with 1 FAT32 (h:\), NTFS (i:\ and j:\).

CD-Rom on Z:\
Standaard enhanced pci to usb-hostcontroller:PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DD&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&EF

compatible id's are:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DD&REV_02
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DD
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C0320
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C03
PCI\VEN_8086
PCI\CC_0C0320
PCI\CC_0C03

twice USB mass storage:
1st id: USB\VID_1058&PID_0400&MI_00\7&2EF3404E&0&0000
1st compatible id:
USB\Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50
USB\Class_08&SubClass_06
USB\Class_08

2nd id: USB\VID_1058&PID_0600\050115503B4F
2nd compatible id:
USB\Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50
USB\Class_08&SubClass_06
USB\Class_08


hope that helps you and me to find the solution to my dilemma.
cheers,
Bjorn

Aye, I used the panasonic 2.20 version but PC simply gets stuck as I described.

Hello again,

Okay, sorry about that I guess it all frustrates me so much that I could simply not bear to write details at 2 am....

What I did was following the manual you referred to earlier. I also put on that disk the Panasonic USB driver 2.20 as described. Below you will find all details on that matter.
I have created the bootable CD using Nero (worked fine).

When I put in the CD I press F8 after I started from CD I get into the step by step routine. When I keep pressing one of the options per step (n,y,r) it goes fine to some point.
Then it ends mostly after the DPMS stuff with:
[Dr-Dos] A:\> and a blinking cursor. I cannot type anything with my cordless keyboard. Neither can I press the break button in order to see whether or not the usb driver recognized my external HDD.
2 questions:
1.) Could it be the keyboard by any chance?
2.) Why do I need the IBMDOS and IBMBIO stuff?Is the command.com not enough?

So, sorry I cannot really give you a specified error message as it at one point simply stops and the next time I restart it stops somewhere else. Unfortunately I do not have a wired keyboard. However, it should work I guess as in the XP recovery console, which also uses DOS stuff the keyboard works. I hope you can help again.

Below you will find some more details on my bootable CD and PC±
1.) Here is my configuration with drives etc.:
Floppy on a:\
internal HDD with XP Home on c:\
and two more partitions on d:\ and e:\ (all are NTFS)
CD-Rom Drive on z:\
Emulated CD on y:\

external WD 250GB with 3 partitions:
h:\ (Fat32 but I want to make it NTFS)
i:\ and j:\ (both are NTFS)
This is my USB external WD Media center (250GB) with 2 card reader slots and I would like to store my ghost image of my internal HDD.

Here are my USB controller details:
Standaard enhanced pci to usb-hostcontroller:PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DD&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_02\3&267A616A&0&EF

compatible id's are:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DD&REV_02
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24DD
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C0320
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0C03
PCI\VEN_8086
PCI\CC_0C0320
PCI\CC_0C03

twice USB mass storage:
1st id: USB\VID_1058&PID_0400&MI_00\7&2EF3404E&0&0000
1st compatible id:
USB\Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50
USB\Class_08&SubClass_06
USB\Class_08

2nd id: USB\VID_1058&PID_0600\050115503B4F
2nd compatible id:
USB\Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50
USB\Class_08&SubClass_06
USB\Class_08
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2.) Now, my autoexec and config. They look like this:
[Autoexec]
@echo off
SET TZ=GHO-01:00
path=z:\;z:\ghost;z:\pqmagic
MOUSE.COM
LH \Mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /l:x /m:16 /v
echo Loading...
CD \GHOST
GHOST.EXE
goto END

[config.sys] / leave behind all the remarks please.
rem :The following line loads WD's universal USB-controller driver
rem :The spaces between the filenames and the parameters are
rem :'/e' forces USB 2.0 only, remove for USB 1.x also

[menu]
menuitem = FROMCD, This computer was started from a GHOST bootable CD

[FROMCD]
[COMMON]
DEVICE = usb\usbaspi.sys /e /v /w
rem EVICE = usb\aspiohci.sys /int /all
rem EVICE = usb\aspiuhci.sys /int /all
rem :The following is an aspi mass storage driver for usb-connected HDD's
rem :and compactflash memory cards
DEVICE = usb\di1000dd.sys
DEVICE = oakcdrom.sys /d:mscd001
LASTDRIVE = Z
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3.) These are the files I have on my bootable cd
a.) All of these reside in the bootable image I created with the manual you gave me
of course autoexec.bat and config.sys
help.bat
command.com
edit.com
format.com
aspi2dos.sys
aspi4dos.sys
aspi8dos.sys
aspi8u2.sys
aspicd.sys
aspiohci.sys
aspiuhci.sys
btcdrom.sys
btdosm.sys
flashpt.sys
di1000dd.sys
io.sys
oakcdrom.sys
usbaspi.sys
mscdex.exe
mscdexnt.exe
attrib.exe
chkdsk.exe
debug.exe
ext.exe
guest.exe
scandisk.exe
format.com
restart.com
sys.com
edit.com
IBMBIO.com
IBMDOS.com
MOUSE.com
Mouse.ini
scandisk.ini
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4.) I have added two directories to the disk:
\pqmagic (all partition magic dos files)
\ghost (here is the ghost.exe)
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Bjorn

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1.  Looking at the information you posted futher down after this quote from your last post regarding the *config.sys* and *autoexec.bat* files, I'm not sure I know what *manual* outline you are following--could you be specific, because I don't recognize the source of the batch files?

2.  Did you create a bootable floppy with PC-DOS OS on it first, and then modify it with the files that you list later in your post--and did you then use that floppy in Nero to create the bootable data CD?

I'm going to use your posting details to try and re-create what you have done to see if I can find any problems and duplicate your issues.  Will post the results later when I'm done.

Okay, back from germany from the weekend.
Installed my external HDD on another win98 PC also with the Panasonic driver. Worked great although it cost a lot effort to get there.

And that also gave me a fresh view on my own issues. But first things first:
- I changed the files as you suggested. I saw the flaws with the directories (\usb) also. However, I did not try this CD on my home PC yet as I first wanted to see whether things were caused by my wireless keyboard.

- I tried the CD on a laptop in the weekend and guess what: It recognized my USB drive and even gave the indication on the transfer speed. And all typed commands after the DOS prompt worked out. So I figured out that if you burn a bootable CD with NERO it will use the CALDERA DOS which does obviously not recognize wireless keyboards.
However, although the laptop recognized my external HDD there was no drive letter assignment. I thought that it might be due to the fact that the CD was customized for my own home PC and that's why the drive letters would not match. So I decided to first try again that same disc on my home PC (I did before but then the directories were set wrongly).

- But I was still wondering why the caldera DOS would always be used. I took a look in the NERO directory with the DOSBootimage file
(Nightowl, you suggested to replace the DosBootimage file -

- that's not I would put it). When you replace it Nero justs grants you (in the 'Select Boot Image' screen) to select from floppy. So, what I did is copying the contents of my Image - the one I will also put as an image to the bootable CD (without the \ghost and \pqmagic folder) to a floppy and just let Nero read it when creating the bootable disc. I am not able to send screen prints so I suggest that you include it in your description at http://nightowl.radified.com/bootcd/neroexpress6.html.



- After that I let it burn the CD and I put in the CD in my home PC and guess what it recognized the external HDD.

- Strange on that matter was, that the drive letters are not set right. my external HDD has drive letter C:\ and I have the Z:\ for my CD drive. So, I still have to figure that out. I also have the issue with the codepage as I need to have the dutch codepage but I have an idea on how to do that.

- So, what remains is the drive letter assignment. If you have any suggestions I would appreciate your help again.

Thanks already for all the help you provided until now. I really appreciate that.

Regards,
Bjorn

Okay, not really done any visible progress.

My main problem now is:

Basically the only drive that is recognized is the FAT32 partition of my external HDD. All other drives are NTFS and do not have any drive letters.
When I try to use NTFSDOS I get a memory allocation error saying '....could not allocate memory...'. Then it says '...could not find command.com...system halted'. Strange, as the command.com is present and not hidden on the bootable floppy.

Any ideas on that one?

Furthermore, I tried to install the dutch codepage with the syntax:
country=031,850,country.sys
install=mode.com con cp prepare=((850) ega.cpi)
install=mode.com con cp select=850
install=keyb.com nl,,keyboard.sys

With the necessary files keyboard.sys and ega.cpi present on the floppy it should be no problem. But I get an error. rebooting with the other PC now and see what error it is again.

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1.) [autoexec]
@echo off 
SET TZ=GHO-01:00 
path=z:\;z:\ghost;z:\pqmagic 
DRFAT32.exe /m:120 >NUL
MOUSE.COM 
Mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /l:z /m:16 /v
echo Loading... 
Z:
CD \GHOST 
GHOST.EXE   
goto END

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2.) [config.sys]

rem :The following line loads WD's universal USB-controller driver 
rem :The spaces between the filenames and the parameters are 
rem :'/e' forces USB 2.0 only, remove for USB 1.x also 
 
[menu] 
menuitem = FROMCD, This computer was started from a GHOST bootable CD 
 
[FROMCD] 
[COMMON] 
DEVICE=drfat32.sys /x
DEVICE=usbaspi.sys /e /v /norst
rem :The following is an aspi mass storage driver for usb-connected HDD's
rem :and compactflash memory cards 
country=031,850,country.sys
install=mode.com con cp prepare=((850) ega.cpi)
install=mode.com con cp select=850
install=keyb.com nl,,keyboard.sys
DEVICE=di1000dd.sys
DEVICE=oakcdrom.sys /d:mscd001 
LASTDRIVE=Z

Hello again,

1.) Regarding the codepage everything works fine now.
2.) I saw some directory entries for emm and himem that prevented the right start up. Fixed it and emm works.
3.) Already had the *motto hairu* driver set with parameter /di.
4.) I downloaded ntfspro and that worked fine. However, still got the memory allocation error. However it should be solved with emm working okay now. Just testing on my other machine.
5.) Regarding the Nero issue. I followed again your step by step course at http://nightowl.radified.com/bootcd/neroexpress6.html.

At some stage I come to this section:
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Nero 6.6 only grants me the choice from 1 (!) and that is the option for Read boot disc in drive. But it does not matter really. I have all the files on my floppy as well so I can just let it read the floppy and build the bootable cd from that.
I guess that it has something to do with an internal check for the bootsector for Dr Dos  7 (which is Caldera). I cannot explain otherwise.

Be back in a minute....