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	Re: Ghost for Win 7 Reply #45 - Sep 30^th, 2013 at 10:47pm @ NightOwl Yes, NightOwl, pretty please... start with post #104... pretty please... with sugar and honey on it
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	Re: Using TeraByte's BIBM to MultiBoot 3 OS's Reply #46 - Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 4:22am *The last 12 Posts were moved here from Norton Ghost 2003, Ghost v8.x + Ghost Solution Suite (GSS) Discussion Board* by NightOwl. Brian wrote on Sep 30^th, 2013 at 10:42pm:** NightOwl, can you kindly move the recent posts to the BIBM thread? Done!
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Reply #47 - Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 10:55am

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NightOwl wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 4:17am:

I presume you mean a USB adapter that you can hook a SATA HDD up to?

Yes, that thingy that takes more time to set up than I want to spend...

NightOwl wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 4:17am:

does the motherboard have a PCI connector slot to add a SATA controller card?

simple answer... no

NightOwl wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 4:17am:

Maybe an eSATA PCI adapter that adds an *external SATA* port on the outside via the PCI card could be helpful.

no PCI slots...

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I have an adapter for my laptop hdds that has the thingy which hooks up to both sata power and data in one unit... and I know that it pulls the power from the USB port...

I'm looking for a one-unit like that for the 3.5 hdds... and not only the data cord but also a power cord coming out of the back of the one-unit thingy...

Is there such an animal??

It would require only 3 steps instead of 6 or 7 steps that is needed now... plus would be more stable IMHO....

Edit: found one!!! Whew! Cheesy

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	Re: Using TeraByte's BIBM to MultiBoot 3 OS's Reply #48 - Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 11:00am @ Brian Brian wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 2:50am: I've no experience with SATA port PCI cards. I don't either... and no PCI slots in the Optiplex....
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Reply #49 - Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 11:07am

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roxe wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 10:55am:

I have an adapter for my laptop hdds that has the thingy which hooks up to both sata power and data in one unit... and I know that it pulls the power from the USB port...

I'm looking for a one-unit like that for the 3.5 hdds... and not only the data cord but also a power cord coming out of the back of the one-unit thingy...

Is there such an animal??

It would require only 3 steps instead of 6 or 7 steps that is needed now... plus would be more stable IMHO....

I'd like your answer also on this one... please

Edit: found one!!! Whew! Grin

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	Re: Using TeraByte's BIBM to MultiBoot 3 OS's Reply #50 - Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 2:52pm @ roxe One SATA port. No PCI slots. I'm afraid you are limited to one HD.
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Re: Using TeraByte's BIBM to MultiBoot 3 OS's
Reply #51 - Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 2:50pm

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roxe wrote on Sep 30^th, 2013 at 10:39pm:

Since you have more than ONE xp pro in use at the same time, I can see having a license for each one of them...

but since the OS is in an image that has activation already on it... and new drivers have been installed in it... as long as it is on only ONE computer at a time... why would a new license be needed???

Well, if it really is on only one machine, then one license is okay. But, if you are going to keep using both machines, switching back and forth, then that's a problem.

Activation is really simple and easy--but, complicated at the same time!

Here's a reference that explains the difficult concepts in a fairly easy fashion to understand what triggers having to Activate, or re-Activate a Window installation: Windows Product Activation (WPA) on Windows XP

Bottom line, you have to have a separate license for each machine you have Windows installed on (and, if using a Virtual Machine for a second or more copies of Windows, each of these needs its own license as well--each Virtual Machine is considered a separate machine in Microsoft's definitions--because they can be running at the same time as the host machine).

But, a *grey area*--what if you have only one machine, but you run a second or third copy of your Windows installation from separate OS partitions. Most folks think this is okay to use a single license. The reasoning, you can not run more than one instance of the OS. And all the hardware remains identical when you switch from one OS on one partition to the other on another partition.

So, you can have your main *production OS* that you use primarily, and then a *copy* on another partition that you use for *testing*, or a separate purpose--video editing, or music, or etc......

But, if you transfer a copy of your Windows OS from your Laptop which has its own product activation that is based on the Laptop's hardware, and place it on your *new* Optiplex system--it will have a whole new hardware *signature* based on the unique hardware installed on it. That will trigger having to Activate the system. And, if it has been more than 3 months since you last activated, it should go through automatically. You will probably have to enter the Windows Product Key. And, you have to stop using the Windows OS on the Laptop which you used that original Product Key on it to Activate it.

If you continue to use Windows on both machines that have been Activated using the single product key, well, that's a violation of the EULA.

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	Re: Using TeraByte's BIBM to MultiBoot 3 OS's Reply #52 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 3:06pm @ NightOwl Thanks for the lesson on being legal Checking all my CDs DVDs, I find I have TWO licenses for XPPro, and TWO licenses for Win7Pro... Is that enough??
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Reply #53 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 4:17pm

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Brian wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 2:52pm:

One SATA port. No PCI slots. I'm afraid you are limited to one HD.

Well, checking out the manual I downloaded... it states that there are two more caddies that fit where the DVD caddy is... one for a floppy... and one for a hdd... and seeing how thin the caddy is, it looks like a 2.5 sata laptop drive would fit in that space.

Now I'm searching everywhere for that 2nd hdd caddy...
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And on topic... I got the BIBM bundle and got the CD made... and it works!

When I do a disk wipe... does that also block out any bad clusters??

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	Re: Using TeraByte's BIBM to MultiBoot 3 OS's Reply #54 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 4:22pm Maybe like this..... http://www.ebay.com/itm/SATA-2nd-HDD-SSD-Harddrive-Disk-Caddy-for-12-7mm-Laptop-...
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Reply #55 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 4:26pm

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Thanks for the url... however, this caddy needs to have an ejector button on the right hand side of it in order to pop it right out... the button fits flush, and only needs to be pressed in and then it pops out and the caddy can be slid out of the slot...
plus it doesn't use any screws to hold it in.

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	Re: Using TeraByte's BIBM to MultiBoot 3 OS's Reply #56 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 4:26pm @ roxe roxe wrote on Oct 4^th, 2013 at 4:17pm: When I do a disk wipe... does that also block out any bad clusters?? It doesn't fix bad sectors, if that's what you mean.
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Re: Using TeraByte's BIBM to MultiBoot 3 OS's
Reply #57 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 4:40pm

As you already know, this is your download page...

https://terabyteunlimited.com/product-download.php

I'd like you to download
"Image for Linux V2.83 (GUI), (With Networking), (Linux or Windows Users)"
This will be used to transfer your current Win7 into the new computer. We'll start with Win7 as it is easier to do than WinXP on new hardware.

To create the IFL CD...

unzip
double click makedisk.exe, next
Default Settings, next
dot in I accept the agreement, next
Product Key for IFL, next
select your CD burner drive letter (you can use a CD-RW or a CD-R disc)
Finish

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Re: Using TeraByte's BIBM to MultiBoot 3 OS's
Reply #58 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 5:24pm

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I've been thinking about what you said about installing everything brand new, instead of copying it over...

As soon as I get my optiplex going... maybe that is what I should do... and then play around with deleting the drivers and copying it and putting the new drivers on... would be alot less stressful that way...

I'll use BIBM to be the boot mgr when I get to that point...

And I did download the above file... and written your instructions on making a CD...
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I've taken a picture of the dvd caddy... which is the same shape as the hdd caddy will be... is there someway I can get the pic to you so you can see the shape of it? cuz it's different than the url you posted above... or can it be posted on the forum??

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	Re: Using TeraByte's BIBM to MultiBoot 3 OS's Reply #59 - Oct 4^th, 2013 at 10:26pm @ roxe roxe wrote on Oct 4^th, 2013 at 5:24pm: or can it be posted on the forum?? Click Browse for Attachment 1:
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