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Reply #90 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 9:54pm
 
OK, tomorrow I will reinstall Ghost 15.
I will report back.
 
 
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Reply #91 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 9:57pm
 
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I haven't used Ghost for many years even though I was involved in the Norton forum. I recall many threads about Ghost 15 not seeing the C: drive and in most cases it was due to the File System extending beyond the end of the partition. The cause of this mis-match was usually unknown although we blamed the Microsoft partitioner. Other imaging apps don't seem bothered by this issue so if Bill can't fix it I wouldn't be overly concerned. IFD is a far better app. If Bill owns IFW he could use this instead of IFD.

You will note Bill's P: Q: M: partitions have an overlap. It doesn't cause an issue except if it is C: drive with Ghost 15.
 
 
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Reply #92 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 9:57pm
 
Brian

I reinstalled ghost 15.
Ghost still can't see C: drive.
In disk management I can see the partition that you had me make, but it's only 9 MB not the 10MB you asked for, I thought made it 10, hope that's not the problem.
 
 
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Reply #93 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 10:00pm
 
Bill,

You can go into BIBM and resize that partition to Maximum size so there will not be any Unallocated free space following the Win7 partition. Worth a try but I doubt it will fix Ghost.

You still haven't let me know if you have Image for Windows.
 
 
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Reply #94 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 10:24pm
 
Brian wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 10:00pm:
Bill,

You can go into BIBM and resize that partition to Maximum size so there will not be any Unallocated free space following the Win7 partition. Worth a try but I doubt it will fix Ghost.

You still haven't let me know if you have Image for Windows.


I'm not sure if I follow you.
In disk management I have 9MB of Unallocated space on the back side of C:
So you want the partition, but with NO space inside?

I don't remember Downloading Image For Windows. is this  Terabyte software?
 
 
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Reply #95 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 10:51pm
 
The 9 or 10  MB of unallocated free space isn't a partition. Unfortunately, in BIBM it is in the partition column but it isn't a partition. It is free space outside of a partition.

In BIBM select the Win7 partition and click Resize. Use the arrows to make the partition Maximum Size. Apply, etc.

Now in Disk Management you won't see any free space following the Win7 partition.

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I don't remember Downloading Image For Windows. is this  Terabyte software?


Look at the page where you downloaded BIBM and see if you have other registered products.
 
 
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Reply #96 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 11:17pm
 
Tomorrow night, I will take another look at this, as its to late.

Thanks, Bill.
 
 
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Reply #97 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 10:37am
 
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Still wondering, is this your motherboard?

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/RAMPAGE_IV_BLACK_EDITION/specifications/

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Reply #98 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 4:29pm
 
Hi NightOwl,

Yes, It had everything I needed, probably more than I needed.

ASUS Rampage IV Black Edition LGA 2011 Intel X79
SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
 
 
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Reply #99 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 5:17pm
 
Brian

Back at reply 68 where you had me reduce the size of the Win 7 partition by 10 MB, were you instructing me to create a new partition, or unallocated space?
I thought I was creating a new partition, but not being all that familiar with BBM, I created unallocated space.
That's why I was supersized when I checked disk management and didn't see a 10MB partition.
Just to be sure, now we want to extend the Win 7 partition as large as I can make it?
I checked to see if I have Image For Windows, all I have is BBM
It says something about $10.00 off for IFW I think I'll spring for it, if we can't fix Ghost 15
 
 
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Reply #100 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 6:35pm
 
Bill,

Mr Moose wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 5:17pm:
Just to be sure, now we want to extend the Win 7 partition as large as I can make it?


That's correct. See if that fixes the Ghost issue. Please let us know.
 
 
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Reply #101 - Jun 20th, 2017 at 9:38pm
 
Brian,

No luck, Ghost 15 still can't see C: drive.
It still can see my recovery point, which has a reference to C: drive.
Disk management lists C: drive as healthy.
Everything is working as far as I can tell, except Ghost.
I just can't believe that expensive software like this can brake down.
It's pretty much worthless now.
 
 
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Reply #102 - Jun 20th, 2017 at 10:53pm
 
Bill,

Ghost does that I'm afraid. Can't see the C: drive.

Out of interest, how often would you image your C: drive? If it's weekly or less I suggest using IFD and I've posted instructions on backup/restore earlier in this thread. You could start the backup last thing at night and set the option to Shutdown when the backup has completed.

If you backup almost daily then you might find IFW more attractive. IFW does backups while Windows is running. IFD does backups from the BIBM boot disk.

Ghost 15 was last updated 5 years ago. IFD/IFW were last updated 3 weeks ago. IFW/IFD work with Win8 and Win10. Ghost 15 doesn't.
 
 
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Reply #103 - Jun 21st, 2017 at 10:37pm
 
Brian,

I agree, Ghost 15 is old, and it needs to be retired.
I need to take a closer look, but Image for Windows IMO looks like the way to go.
 
 
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Reply #104 - Jun 22nd, 2017 at 12:12am
 
Bill,

If you get IFW I'll help you set it up. IFW comes with IFD (you already have it), IFL and TBOSDT. IFW, IFD and IFL can backup/restore Windows and Linux systems. IFW, IFD and IFL create and restore each others images so it doesn't matter which one you use at a particular time. I prefer backing up with IFW and restoring with IFL.
 
 
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