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Re: To clone or to Image, what is the difference.
Reply #75 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 10:08pm
 
Its large file, I can try.
 
 
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Re: To clone or to Image, what is the difference.
Reply #76 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 10:10pm
 
Mine is 60 KB
 
 
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Re: To clone or to Image, what is the difference.
Reply #77 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 10:22pm
 
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Ghost\Utility\PartInfo.exe"
    PID (5808)

Base Build Number: 35907    Base Build Date: Nov 26 2009  02:12:30
OsVersion:
    Generation:               Microsoft Windows 7
    Flavor:                   Windows Flavor Unknown
    OsArchitecture:           64-bit operating system
    KernelType:               Windows NT
    ProcessorArchitecture:    x64 (EM64T/AMD64)
    VersionNumber:            6.1.7601
    ServicePackVersionNumber: 1.0.0
    KernelVersionNumber:      0.0.0
    Path:                     file:///C:/Windows/
    ComputerName:             BillsPC
    Features:
        Execute64BitBinaries
        Execute32BitPrograms
        Hibernate
        MultipleMonitors
        NT4FTVolumes
        DynamicDisk
        NtfsLonghorn
        Fat32

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4930K CPU @ 3.40GHz
         (If cpu speed is specified, it is rated speed, which may not be current speed)
    CPU Vendor:         GenuineIntel
    CPU Signature:      000306e4      CPU Features:       bfebfbff
    Hyperthreads/core:        12      Cores/Package:             1
    Logical procs/pkg:        12      Number of packages:        1
    NX bit supported:                Yes      x64 Capable:                     Yes      Supports HW Virtualization:      Yes
    Virtual Addr Bits:        48      Physical Addr Bits:       46
    OS CPU Count:             12      Processor Mask:     00000fff
    Min App Addr:       00010000      Max App Addr:       FFFEFFFF
    Page Size:              4096
    Memory Usage:             6%
    Total Physical:     65475 MB
    Avail Physical:     60952 MB
    Total Page:         130949 MB
    Avail Page:         126352 MB
    Total Virtual:       4095 MB
    Avail Virtual:       4045 MB
    Avail Extended:         0 MB




================================================================================
=========================================
Disk Geometry Information for Disk 0         Sector Count: 1,565,565,872   (1,023 Cylinders, 254 Heads, 63 Sectors/Track)
Signature: CF3E7862
Sector Size             Physical:  4096             Logical:  512
Detected Sector Size:   512
Cache Line Size:        0
Byte Alignment Factors  Sector:  0           Cache:   0
Detected Alignment:     None
................................................................................
.........................................
System               Part Table LBA   # Boot     BCyl Head Sect FS      ECyl Head Sect       StartSect         NumSects
================================================================================
=========================================
   On Disk Values:                0   0  80         0    0   2  EE      1023  255  63                1    4,294,967,295
   Calculated:                                      0    0   2        268401  230   4 

................................................................................
.........................................
GPT Header Data:
     Signature:            EFI PART
     EFI Revision:         1.0
     Header Size:          92
     Header Checksum:      1575365194
     Primary LBA:          1
     Backup LBA:           5,860,533,167
     First Usable LBA:     34
     LastUsable LBA:       5,860,533,134
     Disk GUID:            14fa7e8b-4fcd-491f-89f6-05c4abeedc57
     Partition Entry LBA:  2
     Max # of Partitions:  128
     Partition Entry Size: 128
     Partition Array CRC:  3301932361

WARNING: Backup LBA is not valid in GPT header.

================================================================================
====================================
Partition Information for Disk   0:               2.73 TB
Volume Path            PartitionType  Status         Size      Part Table Lba   #     Start Sector    Total Sectors
================================================================================
====================================
Protective MBR         GPT Protect    Pri,Boot          2 TB                0   0                1    4,294,967,295
................................................................................
.........................................................
GPT Partitions for Disk 0:        2.73 TB
#   Partion Type/Volume GUID            Sect Index  Attribute Bits              Start Sector                  End Sector    Size
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------
  0  Microsoft reserved partition       
     05438da0-5e16-4d2f-9898-3f433437d571   2 0                 0                          34                     262,177    128 MB

     Unallocated Space                     -- -                --                     262,178                     264,191    1007 KB

N:\
  1  Basic data partition               
     1e6bf665-fd31-4a01-b760-62490d81148c   2 1                 0                     264,192               1,258,555,391    600 GB

P:\
  2  Basic data partition               
     71aacbff-7eb7-4625-b7a7-ecf3099975d2   2 2                 0               1,258,555,392               1,992,558,591    350 GB

WARNING:  Above partition extends beyond end of disk.

Q:\
  3  Basic data partition               
     cf7b1e71-f4e7-49fa-8148-487b2ee132dd   2 3                 0               1,992,558,592               3,984,852,991    950 GB

WARNING:  Above partition extends beyond end of disk.

M:\
  4  Basic data partition               
     316f915c-f8d6-4645-a426-9e40e1cae8b5   3 0                 0               3,984,852,992               4,804,052,991    391 GB

WARNING:  Above partition extends beyond end of disk.



- - - - - - - - - - Disk 0: Protective MBR (Sector 0) - - - - - - - - - - -

     0:  33 C0 8E D0 BC 00 7C 8E C0 8E D8 BE 00 7C BF 00        3ÀŽÐ¼.|ŽÀŽØ¾.|¿.
    10:  06 B9 00 02 FC F3 A4 50 68 1C 06 CB FB B9 04 00        .¹..üó¤Ph..Ëû¹..
    20:  BD BE 07 80 7E 00 00 7C 0B 0F 85 0E 01 83 C5 10        ½¾.€~..|..…..ƒÅ.
    30:  E2 F1 CD 18 88
 
 
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Re: To clone or to Image, what is the difference.
Reply #78 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 10:29pm
 
Bill, you are going to have to attach the entire txt file (partinfo.txt) as most of the info is missing from the above post. Or put it somewhere for us to download.
 
 
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Re: To clone or to Image, what is the difference.
Reply #79 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 10:47pm
 
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Ghost\Utility\PartInfo.exe"
    PID (5808)

Base Build Number: 35907    Base Build Date: Nov 26 2009  02:12:30
OsVersion:
    Generation:               Microsoft Windows 7
    Flavor:                   Windows Flavor Unknown
    OsArchitecture:           64-bit operating system
    KernelType:               Windows NT
    ProcessorArchitecture:    x64 (EM64T/AMD64)
    VersionNumber:            6.1.7601
    ServicePackVersionNumber: 1.0.0
    KernelVersionNumber:      0.0.0
    Path:                     file:///C:/Windows/
    ComputerName:             BillsPC
    Features:
        Execute64BitBinaries
        Execute32BitPrograms
        Hibernate
        MultipleMonitors
        NT4FTVolumes
        DynamicDisk
        NtfsLonghorn
        Fat32

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4930K CPU @ 3.40GHz
         (If cpu speed is specified, it is rated speed, which may not be current speed)
    CPU Vendor:         GenuineIntel
    CPU Signature:      000306e4      CPU Features:       bfebfbff
    Hyperthreads/core:        12      Cores/Package:             1
    Logical procs/pkg:        12      Number of packages:        1
    NX bit supported:                Yes      x64 Capable:                     Yes      Supports HW Virtualization:      Yes
    Virtual Addr Bits:        48      Physical Addr Bits:       46
    OS CPU Count:             12      Processor Mask:     00000fff
    Min App Addr:       00010000      Max App Addr:       FFFEFFFF
    Page Size:              4096
    Memory Usage:             6%
    Total Physical:     65475 MB
    Avail Physical:     60952 MB
    Total Page:         130949 MB
    Avail Page:         126352 MB
    Total Virtual:       4095 MB
    Avail Virtual:       4045 MB
    Avail Extended:         0 MB




================================================================================
=========================================
Disk Geometry Information for Disk 0         Sector Count: 1,565,565,872   (1,023 Cylinders, 254 Heads, 63 Sectors/Track)
Signature: CF3E7862
Sector Size             Physical:  4096             Logical:  512
Detected Sector Size:   512
Cache Line Size:        0
Byte Alignment Factors  Sector:  0           Cache:   0
Detected Alignment:     None
................................................................................
.........................................
System               Part Table LBA   # Boot     BCyl Head Sect FS      ECyl Head Sect       StartSect         NumSects
================================================================================
=========================================
   On Disk Values:                0   0  80         0    0   2  EE      1023  255  63                1    4,294,967,295
   Calculated:                                      0    0   2        268401  230   4 

................................................................................
.........................................
GPT Header Data:
     Signature:            EFI PART
     EFI Revision:         1.0
     Header Size:          92
     Header Checksum:      1575365194
     Primary LBA:          1
     Backup LBA:           5,860,533,167
     First Usable LBA:     34
     LastUsable LBA:       5,860,533,134
     Disk GUID:            14fa7e8b-4fcd-491f-89f6-05c4abeedc57
     Partition Entry LBA:  2
     Max # of Partitions:  128
     Partition Entry Size: 128
     Partition Array CRC:  3301932361

WARNING: Backup LBA is not valid in GPT header.

================================================================================
====================================
Partition Information for Disk   0:               2.73 TB
Volume Path            PartitionType  Status         Size      Part Table Lba   #     Start Sector    Total Sectors
================================================================================
====================================
Protective MBR         GPT Protect    Pri,Boot          2 TB                0   0                1    4,294,967,295
................................................................................
.........................................................
GPT Partitions for Disk 0:        2.73 TB
#   Partion Type/Volume GUID            Sect Index  Attribute Bits              Start Sector                  End Sector    Size
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------
  0  Microsoft reserved partition       
     05438da0-5e16-4d2f-9898-3f433437d571   2 0                 0                          34                     262,177    128 MB

     Unallocated Space                     -- -                --                     262,178                     264,191    1007 KB

N:\
  1  Basic data partition               
     1e6bf665-fd31-4a01-b760-62490d81148c   2 1                 0                     264,192               1,258,555,391    600 GB

P:\
  2  Basic data partition               
     71aacbff-7eb7-4625-b7a7-ecf3099975d2   2 2                 0               1,258,555,392               1,992,558,591    350 GB

WARNING:  Above partition extends beyond end of disk.

Q:\
  3  Basic data partition               
     cf7b1e71-f4e7-49fa-8148-487b2ee132dd   2 3                 0               1,992,558,592               3,984,852,991    950 GB

WARNING:  Above partition extends beyond end of disk.

M:\
  4  Basic data partition               
     316f915c-f8d6-4645-a426-9e40e1cae8b5   3 0                 0               3,984,852,992               4,804,052,991    391 GB

WARNING:  Above partition extends beyond end of disk.



- - - - - - - - - - Disk 0: Protective MBR (Sector 0) - - - - - - - - - - -

     0:  33 C0 8E D0 BC 00 7C 8E C0 8E D8 BE 00 7C BF 00        3ÀŽÐ¼.|ŽÀŽØ¾.|¿.
    10:  06 B9 00 02 FC F3 A4 50 68 1C 06 CB FB B9 04 00        .¹..üó¤Ph..Ëû¹..
    20:  BD BE 07 80 7E 00 00 7C 0B 0F 85 0E 01 83 C5 10        ½¾.€~..|..…..ƒÅ.
    30:  E2 F1 CD 18 88
 
 
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Re: To clone or to Image, what is the difference.
Reply #80 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 10:54pm
 
My file is 70kb Its exceeding the limit 6000 max
I could email it to you.
 
 
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Reply #81 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 10:57pm
 
I just sent my email address in a Personal message.
 
 
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Reply #82 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 11:19pm
 
Thanks for the partinfo. Your SSD is Disk 3. The geometry, partition alignment, MBR and boot sector are all fine So I'm afraid I can't find a cause for Ghost not seeing your C: drive.

Apart from BIBM, do you have any other TeraByte Unlimited software?
 
 
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Reply #83 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 11:24pm
 
I know I have BBM, I don't remember anything else.
Is there something else from them that would help?
 
 
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Reply #84 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 11:29pm
 
The web page where you downloaded BIBM will have any other bought products you own. Let me know. Otherwise use IFD (in BIBM) to do your imaging/restores. It's better than Ghost anyway.
 
 
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Reply #85 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 11:53pm
 
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/product-download.php

The name of your products will be in the dark blue rectangles.

You are licensed to use BIBM on 5 home computers you own.
 
 
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Re: To clone or to Image, what is the difference.
Reply #86 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 11:30am
 
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I'm curious--is this your motherboard?: 

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/RAMPAGE_IV_BLACK_EDITION/specifications/

I looked at the User Guide for this product and it brings up some interesting issues with setup of SATA drives.

But, I won't comment until I know if this is, in fact, your motherboard.
 

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Re: To clone or to Image, what is the difference.
Reply #87 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 11:51am
 
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I'm not a Ghost 15 user--so I don't know the various options available--but some random questions:

Does Ghost 15 have a way to manually scan and/or re-scan one's system to identify any changes that have been made to the installed HDDs--or is this supposed to be an *automatic* process?

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When you say that your SSD C:\ drive is not showing up in Ghost 15, can I assume you are talking about while you are booted to your Win7 OS? 

Have you booted to the Ghost 15 Recovery Disc--and does the C:\ drive show up in that operating system?

Can you manually image your C:\ drive from the Ghost 15 Recovery Disc interface?

Back to the both of you:

Where does Ghost 15 get its information as to what HDDs are installed on a system?   Does it come from its own scan, or is it asking the Win OS to present that information?

Is there an *.ini* file of some sort that has the list of HDDs found previously on the system?  Can it be deleted and force Ghost 15 to re-scan for the HDDs present?

Is Ghost 15 getting its HDD list from Win OS registry?  Can the registry listing for attached devices be deleted, and force the Win OS to re-scan and re-assign drive letters in the registry, and there by force Ghost 15 to get new information?

I wouldn't recommend doing major system changes (i.e. deleting the registry values for attached devices) unless you either have a good system image backup (from a manual backup from the Ghost 15 Recovery Disc if the C:\ shows up there and a manual backup can be done--or if an Image for DOS or Image for Linux backup has been created), or have a registry backup, or maybe a Restore Point would be adequate (but, I have never found that consistently reliable!).

Any chance, uninstalling Ghost 15 from Win 7, and then reinstalling Ghost 15 would trigger a relisting of the C:\ drive in Ghost 15's interface?

Don't know if any of these thoughts might help--but, perhaps worth some effort to try......
 

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Re: To clone or to Image, what is the difference.
Reply #88 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 9:39pm
 
I've also wondered if reinstalling ghost 15 might fix the problem.
What do you think Brian?
 
 
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Re: To clone or to Image, what is the difference.
Reply #89 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 9:50pm
 
Mr Moose wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 9:39pm:
I've also wondered if reinstalling ghost 15 might fix the problem.


Certainly worth trying. It worked here...

https://community.norton.com/en/forums/ghost-cant-see-any-my-drives-i-cant-backu
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